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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JOACH1M on November 18, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
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Turn down the ack, auto,puffy, and manned. :furious
Watch for PROOF http://www.mediafire.com/?yakysbpd6sj016d
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Seriously? Do you want someone to hold your hand too while you fly? Do you really want HiTech to add realistic acks? You'd never get near a CV or a base if he did...
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Seriously? Do you want someone to hold your hand too while you fly? Do you really want HiTech to add realistic acks? You'd never get near a CV or a base if he did...
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im sure ack in ww2 didnt blow u out of the sky at 4.4k going about 275 and offside of the base with only ten shot burst.
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Why don't you complain about something important, like caps!
Ack is there to SHOOT YOU DOWN! don't near it, problem solved.
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This is funny lol
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Why don't you complain about something important, like caps!
Ack is there to SHOOT YOU DOWN! don't near it, problem solved.
the caps is being solved pretty soon :x, but the ack is a bit to accurate i think
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told ya, arena cap threads, b-29 threads are passe.
we shall now start ACK threads!!!! :lol :neener: :lol
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im sure ack in ww2 didnt blow u out of the sky at 4.4k going about 275 and offside of the base with only ten shot burst.
Sometimes it did.
Pierre Closterman lost, what, fourteen out of sixteen Tempests doing single pass, a high speed attack on a German airfield, all to the AA fire.
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Sometimes it did.
Pierre Closterman lost, what, fourteen out of sixteen Tempests doing single pass, a high speed attack on a German airfield, all to the AA fire.
ya, he flew over the field, but i see pics of CV forces blasting shots left and right and japanese and amercian planes get through no issue(sometimes)
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ya, he flew over the field, but i see pics of CV forces blasting shots left and right and japanese and amercian planes get through no issue(sometimes)
I've seen pictures of all sorts of "funky" stuff that happens in real life. Just because things happened (sometimes) doesn't justify a whine to HTC to change the game. I blow through the ack quite often with only minor hits. I get blown up by the ack (sometimes). It's a risk you take when you get near enough for ack to start shooting.
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.....And the whines continue.
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JOACH1M = Nemisis? Same kind of nerf whine.
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:rofl
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I've seen pictures of all sorts of "funky" stuff that happens in real life. Just because things happened (sometimes) doesn't justify a whine to HTC to change the game. I blow through the ack quite often with only minor hits. I get blown up by the ack (sometimes). It's a risk you take when you get near enough for ack to start shooting.
just one ping on the middle of the wing? form 5k+ out? just doesnt seem right
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JOACH1M = Nemisis? Same kind of nerf whine.
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?? you think im him? well your wrong
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ya, he flew over the field, but i see pics of CV forces blasting shots left and right and japanese and amercian planes get through no issue(sometimes)
And it is only "sometimes" in AH too. You just hit one of the "sometimes" and are forgetting all the "not sometimes" where you didn't get hit or didn't get hit significantly.
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just one ping on the middle of the wing? form 5k+ out? just doesnt seem right
This B-24 received just "one ping in the middle of the wing" from beyond 5k+. I wonder if the pilot and crew were thinking "This just doesn't seem right" at the time.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/B-24_hit_by_Flak.jpg)
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And it is only "sometimes" in AH too. You just hit one of the "sometimes" and are forgetting all the "not sometimes" where you didn't get hit or didn't get hit significantly.
i see what u mean
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This B-24 received just "one ping in the middle of the wing" from beyond 5k+. I wonder if the pilot and crew were thinking "This just doesn't seem right" at the time.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/B-24_hit_by_Flak.jpg)
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88mm flack gun, AH 37mm quite a difference
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I agree with him. Last i played the ack was crap.
You can pull that "realistic" card all you want. Truth of the matter is, this is a game. This isnt realistic. No matter how hard you try or want it to be.
And ive heard most of you flamers cry about ack. So with that being said. How bout you stop being a BBS keyboard tough guy and look at your hypocritical ways.
Now flame me :aok
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Turn down the ack, auto,puffy, and manned. :furious
Watch for PROOF http://www.mediafire.com/?yakysbpd6sj016d
He obv. hax.
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I'm convinced. We need the dual barrel 3.7 cm Flakzwilling 43 as the manned feild gun. Our 3.7 cm FlaK 43 has an effective AA alt of 15,000 feet and a horizontal range of 8700 yards. Flakzwilling would be twice the fun.......And hows about manned 40mm Bofors with the Stiffkey Sight........ :x
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I agree with him. Last i played the ack was crap.
You can pull that "realistic" card all you want. Truth of the matter is, this is a game. This isnt realistic. No matter how hard you try or want it to be.
And ive heard most of you flamers cry about ack. So with that being said. How bout you stop being a BBS keyboard tough guy and look at your hypocritical ways.
Now flame me :aok
Why bother?
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I agree with him. Last i played the ack was crap.
You can pull that "realistic" card all you want. Truth of the matter is, this is a game. This isnt realistic. No matter how hard you try or want it to be.
And ive heard most of you flamers cry about ack. So with that being said. How bout you stop being a BBS keyboard tough guy and look at your hypocritical ways.
Now flame me :aok
Yes this is a game and ack has been toned down as a result, otherwise if acks were modeled realistically yours and JOACH1M's whine would be absolutely deafening. Acks are already dumbed down for teh sake of game play, what you and others want is for them to be completely neutered.
You and JOACH1M need to cut down on the estrogen.
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Yes this is a game and ack has been toned down as a result, otherwise if acks were modeled realistically yours and JOACH1M's whine would be absolutely deafening. Acks are already dumbed down for teh sake of game play, what you and others want is for them to be completely neutered.
You and JOACH1M need to cut down on the estrogen.
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You suck at trolling. just so you know :aok
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Yes this is a game and ack has been toned down as a result, otherwise if acks were modeled realistically yours and JOACH1M's whine would be absolutely deafening. Acks are already dumbed down for teh sake of game play, what you and others want is for them to be completely neutered.
You and JOACH1M need to cut down on the estrogen.
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U keep trolling, the game isn't real life I didn't ask it to be
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:rofl Joach1m dont worry about the turds that talk smack about whining i have seen most that have posted in here crying over some of the littlest things possible in AH. They dont want to come out of the ack do what i did deack and kill every1 that was ack dragging :rock ohh yea btw BiP,Joach1m i think AKAK is trying to get his post count up :neener:
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I'm convinced. We need the dual barrel 3.7 cm Flakzwilling 43 as the manned feild gun. Our 3.7 cm FlaK 43 has an effective AA alt of 15,000 feet and a horizontal range of 8700 yards. Flakzwilling would be twice the fun.......And hows about manned 40mm Bofors with the Stiffkey Sight........ :x
we dont have 8700 yds horizontal in game... I've measured at sea level using .target and I got 4725 yds, which corresponds to the max distance I can get kills with it.
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:rofl Joach1m dont worry about the turds that talk smack about whining i have seen most that have posted in here crying over some of the littlest things possible in AH. They dont want to come out of the ack do what i did deack and kill every1 that was ack dragging :rock ohh yea btw BiP,Joach1m i think AKAK is trying to get his post count up :neener:
I know bone, I'm not putting up with people like this turd, he A TROLL
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i think AKAK is trying to get his post count up :neener:
I dont think its the count hes trying to get up.
He sure pays a lot of attention to guys. :noid
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I know bone, I'm not putting up with people like this turd, he A TROLL
Its just funny to see ppl act this way with no reason for it other than getting his post count up let the dweebs talk bud ignore them and watch what happens :lol
:rofl BiP!
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I dont think its the count hes trying to get up.
He sure pays a lot of attention to guys. :noid
:rofl
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heres a good idea guys... avoid the ack :aok stay below 3k feet (which i never understood :headscratch: ) or if youre a daredevil stay above it and get shot down :aok
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Ack ack trolls so hard its not even funny.
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Ack ack trolls so hard its not even funny.
no need to bring it up Spek it has been dropped i take it :rolleyes:
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no need to bring it up Spek it has been dropped i take it :rolleyes:
:salute
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Hey! I landed 2 kills in that clip! :x
You got really unlucky there, if you ask me. That's pretty much all it was; an unlucky high-caliber round to the wingroot. You'd really be pissed if all the auto ack was manned by real players all the time... That stuff would be absolutely devastating!
Also, you can't really say what's realistic or not. None of us flew in WWII, or were AAA gunners for that matter, so the feel would be hard to measure. This means AAA in-game should be modeled for the sake of gameplay, not the sake of realism. Along the same lines, for the sake of gameplay, you should avoid flying over enemy bases that low! :rolleyes: Also keep in mind that 90% of the time, planes in WWII were not flying all by themselves over enemy bases. They were usually in large masses, which would keep the concentration of fire spread across several aircraft.
If there was one change I'd like to see, it's how the AAA picked targets. I'd like to see it spread out it's fire a bit more when there are several cons. It's always funny to me how easy it is to deack when someone else is taking the fire (I'd also like to see puffy ack over bases to discourage high-alt picking of cons on the runway or landing, but that's a different issue :P).
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Turn down the ack, auto,puffy, and manned. :furious
Watch for PROOF http://www.mediafire.com/?yakysbpd6sj016d
One of the things that caught me by surprise back when I first started talking to WW2 fighter pilots and researching beyond just reading books, was how many of them went down to flak. Because the AH airwar is fought at lower alts, flak will always be a factor. I remember one of the first Spit XII drivers I corresponded with talking about flak. He'd been sent to Typhoons in the Fall of 1944 as the Tiffie squadrons had lost so many pilots to flak. He talked about seeing buddies vaporized near him by Flak. Of the guys lost in 41 squadron 43-45, some KIA and some POW, I'd estimate it was probably 5-1 flak vs fighter if not more.
Earl Miller, who flew P39s and Jugs in the MTO flew Airwarrior with us and I was lucky enough to meet him. He came to an AW con where Bud Anderson spoke. At a round table discussion Bud mentioned that in all his combat hours, he'd only been hit once. Bud was flying high alt escort.
Earl, who was flying ground attack, laughed and said that if they didn't get hit, they figured they were doing something wrong. Earl was flying down low.
If you get a chance some time, vist Normandy and the cemeteries from the beaches to Falaise. Full of fighter pilots flying ground attack. It really surprised me how many there were.
I think what it comes down to, is how AH is flown as more of a low alt Tac airwar makes flak more of a factor. If the AH airwar was fought up high, it wouldn't impact on things so much.
I sure don't see that it's 'unrealistic' or a problem that needs to be changed. Just consider where you are fighting. If you are in the ack, it's probably going to be a problem.
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Wow. A BB Hoard showed up.
:joystick:
wrongway
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:old: I'm in my 50's and I'd NEVER put this type of complaint on here unless I felt like I had too much self esteem, ego, or was arrogant and needed knocked down a notch or three... :bolt:
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Ah Earl...I remember his daily AAR's on bigweek :aok
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Wow. A BB Hoard showed up.
:joystick:
wrongway
:lol only 3 of us posted ;) well 4 if you count BiP who is not active :neener:
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:lol only 3 of us posted ;)
It did look rather hordish... All those "The Few" avatars... Haha
Also... Look at your sig! :-P
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Ah Earl...I remember his daily AAR's on bigweek :aok
I'd ask him if the game was anywhere near realistic to what he experienced and he'd just smile. He really understood it was just a game. He got his kicks from trying to drop torps from a TBF.
250 combat hours in 39s and 47s, DFC, Silver Star and just as many hours flying A-1s as an advisor in Vietnam early on. I kinda figured he'd know :)
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You suck at trolling. just so you know :aok
It wasn't a troll, just posting what you guys want to do. You want HiTech to coddle you and nerf the acks so you don't get shot down by them.
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U keep trolling, the game isn't real life I didn't ask it to be
No, what you are asking for is to have the acks nerfed so you won't get shot down and make up roadkill hyperbole to try and prove your sad little whining point. If you aren't that 'tard Nemisis, you sure are cut from the same cloth.
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What's next? Are you guys going to ask HiTech to nerf all the guns so they shoot out little colored sparkles instead?
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It did look rather hordish... All those "The Few" avatars... Haha
Also... Look at your sig! :-P
haha! you got me lol it is true :D
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I always disliked akak in game, he is a P38 tard of the highest order, but truth is he is damned near always right in his analysis of this game.
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A better idea would be if Hitech rigged the guns to shoot out little colored sparkles guys
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I don't agree with turning down the manned aks, If a guy has the skill to hit you so be it. The computer on the other hand is totally lame, I play this game to fight other planes as it is a "combat sim". Getting one shotted by nobody is really lame.
shoot if somebody really needs help from the computer ak to avoid me killing them, at least make the ak the equivalent of some complete noob who misses 90% of the time. not the equivalent of 3 or more baconator's in osty's sitting on each vehicle base or town. (he's a pretty good shot in a soft gun)
once again, it's not about getting killed by people, it's about getting insta killed by nobody.
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Problem with that bagrat, is it leaves bases pretty much completely undefended.
Base-taking would become laughably easy, if the ack missed 90% of the time... De-acking would be childs play, then it's free reign.
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What's next? Are you guys going to ask HiTech to nerf all the guns so they shoot out little colored sparkles instead?
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I wouldn't mind that, as long as I get to choose the colour of my sparkles :devil
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I wouldn't mind that, as long as I get to choose the colour of my sparkles :devil
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:noid
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Base-taking would become laughably easy, if the ack missed 90% of the time... De-acking would be childs play, then it's free reign.
But that's what JOACH1M, Bipolar and others want.
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But that's what JOACH1M, Bipolar and others want.
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I dont want to be missing 90% of the time, I never said that, so think before you Speak
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Honestly its bs to get one hitted from 4k
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Honestly its bs to get one hitted from 4k
Exacty what said, it was only a ten shot burst from 1 gun
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Turn down the ack, auto,puffy, and manned. :furious
Watch for PROOF http://www.mediafire.com/?yakysbpd6sj016d
Obviously you have your directions mixed up...I'm sure you meant "Turn up the ack"...yeah, thats the ticket..make it more deadly. :banana:
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Some I suppose have forgotten not too long ago the ack fired cyclic into the sky. Just last year this burst thing happened. Deacking a field went from...you WILL die in the attempt to, you actually have a prayer. I think field ack is just fine the way it is. Now, as to accuracy, puffy ack is radar driven...so you have to vary your alt and heading to survive that. fly straight through it, even at range, you will be toast. Accuracy of field ack, yes, I think it is improbable for a field gun to hit a plane 4k away. At the same time I think it improbable a tank 7.5cm wide round can hit a plane in flight from 1k. But, those are just part of the game and you live with it. The ack is now easier than it has been, further reduction in it's effectiveness would just be silly.
As for AKAK.... pfft. He does have a point, he just has no personality or filter.
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But that's what JOACH1M, Bipolar and others want.
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you can remove my name from your posts now. This CD needs to be replaced
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Honestly its bs to get one hitted from 4k
Exacty what said, it was only a ten shot burst from 1 gun
Why is it BS? Do you have any evidence showing that any AAA guns we have in game were incapable of downing aircraft at such ranges? Until you do, you're posts are nothing more than whines.
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you can remove my name from your posts now. This CD needs to be replaced
Until you stop whining then I might think about it but until then...
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Honestly its bs to get one hitted from 4k
Exacty what said, it was only a ten shot burst from 1 gun
do me a favor, count up the times for have flown through ack and NOT be hit, then we can see a percentage.
I know personally that I can fly through almost any field ack and not get hit even in my big bellybutton (but still lovable) P38 most of the time.
Stop crying about the hit you get once in a while.
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88mm flack gun, AH 37mm quite a difference
Do you have any idea how much dmg a 37mm can pack ? Also AAAs are like risk and reward deal, risk management. Are you willing to get into the ack for the kill, and just situational awareness overall. Times to time I fly pass an air field at 6k thinking I was safe not realizing I was still within their range and they nick me a bit. That's my crappy SA that caused it =) c'mon u killing my Joachim name !
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Why is it BS? Do you have any evidence showing that any AAA guns we have in game were incapable of downing aircraft at such ranges? Until you do, you're posts are nothing more than whines.
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All u do is troll around and pick on disusions, miserable thing you are! W/e ack is dialed to high in AH
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Until you stop whining then I might think about it but until then...
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whine? come on little fella. you should know better. ;)
So unless you plan on asking me out. Remove my name from your mind.
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All u do is troll around and pick on disusions, miserable thing you are! W/e ack is dialed to high in AH
LOL! Stick your head back in the sand kiddo, this game is obviously too tough for you.
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Honestly its bs to get one hitted from 4k
And you base this comment on?
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c'mon u killing my Joachim name !
LOL! I had to do a double take at first when I saw the name because at first I thought it was just you trolling but amazed to find it wasn't a troll and glad to see that it wasn't from you after all.
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Eh hem.
1.) Ack Ack happens to be right. You'll get no where just coming on here crying "That's bs." I doubt this is registering after 5 pages but, you'd need proof to change the game. And the proof is that it's already dialed down (see Dan's posts). Just because some other squeakers agree with you, doesn't give you a valid point. Solution? Stay out of the ack. You'll be 100% safe that way.
2.) Fake Yenny might post more useless junk than real Yenny. <3 real Yenny.
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Eh hem.
1.) Ack Ack happens to be right. You'll get no where just coming on here crying "That's bs." I doubt this is registering after 5 pages but, you'd need proof to change the game. And the proof is that it's already dialed down (see Dan's posts). Just because some other squeakers agree with you, doesn't give you a valid point. Solution? Stay out of the ack. You'll be 100% safe that way.
2.) Fake Yenny might post more useless junk than real Yenny. <3 real Yenny.
Ack Ack first thin I've before he says something, and what with all AoM guys thinking I'm copyin yenny, JOACHIM is my last name and I wasn't tryin be a follower of anybody in any way
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Ack Ack first thin I've before he says something
Translation please? Get one of your handlers in here.
And whatever your intentions, when there's a Joachim and then suddenly there's a JOACH1M. You must make a distinction. Within certain circles that distinction is Fake Yenny.
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Translation please? Get one of your handlers in here.
And whatever your intentions, when there's a Joachim and then suddenly there's a JOACH1M. You must make a distinction. Within certain circles that distinction is Fake Yenny.
Jo is a good kid and if yenny has a problem with it i'm sure they can duel for the handle.
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Jo is a good kid and if yenny has a problem with it i'm sure they can duel for the handle.
Joachim happens to be open, Yenny is Yenny. He got tired of being confused as Joach1m awhile back. Problemo solved, but the term Fake Yenny will have to fade with time.
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Translation please? Get one of your handlers in here.
And whatever your intentions, when there's a Joachim and then suddenly there's a JOACH1M. You must make a distinction. Within certain circles that distinction is Fake Yenny.
My phone is a bit screwy and spell checks and grammar checks everything, I meant think before he speaks
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Ack does suck balls in this game, I'm not going for any historical reason here just that I get shot down by it in riduclous situations ie miles from the carrier and popping above 3k first burst wham I'm dead. Just a huge waste of my time, I want more action less waste of my time moments in game!
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Ack does suck balls in this game, I'm not going for any historical reason here just that I get shot down by it in riduclous situations ie miles from the carrier and popping above 3k first burst wham I'm dead. Just a huge waste of my time, I want more action less waste of my time moments in game!
HISTORICAL!!!!!!!!! Just ask AKAK
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HISTORICAL!!!!!!!!! Just ask AKAK
I could'nt give a monkeys, same as pilot wounds if I wanted to look at a black screen I'd turn my pc off! :D The only persons this benefits is the tittering timid boi who could only manage to land 1 ping on you in his ruddering spraying ho pass, then like a wollypop for the retarded he gets a proxy 5 minutes later :D :banana: :banana: :banana:
stop rewarding timid bois wif wollypops plz!! :O
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I could'nt give a monkeys, same as pilot wounds if I wanted to look at a black screen I'd turn my pc off! :D The only persons this benefits is the tittering timid boi who could only manage to land 1 ping on you in his ruddering spraying ho pass, then like a wollypop for the retarded he gets a proxy 5 minutes later :D :banana: :banana: :banana:
stop rewarding timid bois wif wollypops plz!! :O
:rofl
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Whaaaaaaaaa ack hurts if I get close enough for it to hit me!!! Make it stop please!!!! PLEASE you know if your flying into it and if not your not very good at SA are you.?
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Whaaaaaaaaa ack hurts if I get close enough for it to hit me!!! Make it stop please!!!! PLEASE you know if your flying into it and if not your not very good at SA are you.?
Fail :rolleyes:
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Fail :rolleyes:
+1 very disappointing :confused:
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Fail :rolleyes:
+1 very disappointing :confused:
Some time the truth hurts, but we must move on.
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HISTORICAL!!!!!!!!! Just ask AKAK
Not true. IRL ack was totally worthless and no one ever worried about the pretty, black puffs and red and orange blobs flying past themand their aircraft.
Everyone flew wherever they liked and the only people shot down were shot down by other aircraft.
:rofl :noid :banana:
wrongway
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This B-24 received just "one ping in the middle of the wing" from beyond 5k+. I wonder if the pilot and crew were thinking "This just doesn't seem right" at the time.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/B-24_hit_by_Flak.jpg)
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Sure thing quak quak
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im sure ack in ww2 didnt blow u out of the sky at 4.4k going about 275 and offside of the base with only ten shot burst.
curious, how do you know it was only a ten shot burst?
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curious, how do you know it was only a ten shot burst?
Watch the film I posted
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Watch the film I posted
Watch the German wartime film posted. Watch a 1:30 where the 38 is going down missing most of the wing outboard of the left engine from flak. 20mm or 37mm. Nothing funny about it as someone is really dying. The flak was real. You can see a Jug take a hit too earlier in the film. Sometimes the golden BB gets you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jy0KlbRKuU&feature=related
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If anything we should have more flak, not less. Besides, some of the flak was radar controlled... can you imagine the whines with that?
Look at some of the pacific based film sometime, they literally filled the sky with lead, particularly during the periods the kamikaze made their presence known.
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A 30mm is like a grenade. So if a 37mm hit the wing I'm pretty sure it'd take it out
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Flying flat & level below 6K and gets nailed. I'm far from a Know-it-all and have been on here a while, but not forever and that just seems like you were daring someone to shoot you down. I never fly over a field below 6k without diving, zig-zagging, turning, or some purposeful maneuver. It seems to me you were lolly-gagging and got nailed for flying inattentively. WAH? :huh So the rest of us learned to dodge ak, I bet you can too. :neener: