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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Somerled on November 19, 2010, 08:04:44 AM
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http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/18/another-tsa-outrage/
Seriously, what the f.
This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.
So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers.
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Iv'e heard versions of this story for years now and wonder if it is a myth. I don't remember soldiers ever carrying weapons aboard commercial flights loaded or not.
If it was a military flight why wouldn't they stop at a base rather than a commercial facility where they would encounter TSA?
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I could use a ball-point pen as a weapon.
Shoelaces as a garrote.
The shoes themselves
Belt and/or buckle.
Dollar bill rolled into a tight cylinder is fairly robust (ever seen a straw put through a potato?)
How long til we are flying naked?
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How long til we are flying naked?
Actually, I would support that :rofl
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Actually, I would support that :rofl
Support what? my junk?
:rofl
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Actually, I would support that :rofl
till you got the middle seat between two morbidly obese chicks...
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I think tonight the wife and I will head to the nail clipper range and file off 10 rounds.
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ALL RIGHT! I HAVE A NAIL CLIPPER AND I KNOW HOW TO USE IT!
TAKE ME TO CUBA OR I'M GONNA BUST DOWN THE COCKPIT DOOR, TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF, AND CUT YOUR TOENAILS SO SHORT THEY BLEED!
GIMME WHAT I WANT OR IT'S BAD PEDICURES FOR EVERYONE!
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till you got the middle seat between two morbidly obese chicks...
OK OK< I get the point :O. I would supported only under certain conditions then? :lol
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See Rule #14
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OK OK< I get the point :O. I would supported only under certain conditions then? :lol
taken from a very bad flight back in the day... ugh!!!
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See Rule #14
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Leaving kuwait or Manas it is a government chartered flight, however I had to put my knives in my MOLLE ruck which was loaded in the belly but I could have my M-4/M249/M9 etc in the cabin with me. Plus we had to lock the bolt to the rear and run a zip tie through ejection port to keep the bolt locked. Retarded ? you betcha.
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See Rule #14
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It was a couple of veterans that were responsible for the worst act of domestic terrorism in this country.
ack-ack
Not on the way home from a tour, though.
It was after they had time to stew about how their service meant squat to John Q. Public, at-large.
:noid
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The scariest six words one could ever hear...
"It's O.K., I'm with the government"
"i'm voting for barack obama again" , would be me choice but to each thier own
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Down right stupid. these TSA guys must be related to my coworker <former military wimp>. i cud take over the plane w just me only barenaked.
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I hope terrorists never learn how to use their pants as a weapon, because I like wearing pants on airplanes.
Seriously though, TSA blindly makes rules with absolutely no regard to the probability of something occurring.
In all walks in life as a society you have to accept some level of risk to keep things working feasibly. Now, I'm going to get all nerdy here and relate to my RL thangs but, in building design, there is always a small chance that an individual structural component will fail or the entire structure will fail. The probabilities of such events occurring are very small if designed correctly, and are usually in the magnitude of failure = .0001 but there is always a chance. You could over design every building so the probability of failure is in the realm of .00000000000001 but it's just not economically feasible. In fact it would be too damn expensive to build anything. The key is balancing risk with economy. Same goes for this crap. They are trying to take the chance of any sort of terrorist act down to one in a trillion when in doing so, are making the entire process completely ridiculous.
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I hope terrorists never learn how to use their pants as a weapon, because I like wearing pants on airplanes.
Seriously though, TSA blindly makes rules with absolutely no regard to the probability of something occurring.
In all walks in life as a society you have to accept some level of risk to keep things working feasibly. Now, I'm going to get all nerdy here and relate to my RL thangs but, in building design, there is always a small chance that an individual structural component will fail or the entire structure will fail. The probabilities of such events occurring are very small if designed correctly, and are usually in the magnitude of failure = .0001 but there is always a chance. You could over design every building so the probability of failure is in the realm of .00000000000001 but it's just not economically feasible. In fact it would be too damn expensive to build anything. The key is balancing risk with economy. Same goes for this crap. They are trying to take the chance of any sort of terrorist act down to one in a trillion when in doing so, are making the entire process completely ridiculous.
But why only on planes? As far as I can tell, any terrorist could walk into my kids school and blow it up. Ohhh thats right, planes cost too match and airlines and insurance companies have lobbyists.
Lets get the TSA at the door of every building. Schools, bars, work, restaurants, buses, trains, taxi cubs lol. Why are we only scared that someone would blow up a plane? You can make more damage elsewhere.
Lets get some more drop outs jobs :aok
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Toenail clippers are not on the TSA's list of restricted items. (http://www.seatguru.com/articles/tsa_prohibited_items.php#toiletries)
What is the point of this article? Get rid of the TSA and screening?
Who would want to get rid of the TSA and screening?
Hmmmmm
:noid
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(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4417/bs2z.gif)
Toenail clippers are not on the TSA's list of restricted items. (http://www.seatguru.com/articles/tsa_prohibited_items.php#toiletries)
What is the point of this article? Get rid of the TSA and screening?
Who would want to get rid of the TSA and screening?
Hmmmmm
:noid
Oh man, you figured it out. :noid
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I also think thqat most folks are clueless as how how thick the skin of an aircraft ISN'T.
If they did, most would not fly anymore.
I know that the Bearhawk that I am building has wing ribs that are .025" 2024-T3, the spars are .032" 2024-T3 and the wing skin is .025 2024-T3.
Fuselage, control surfaces and tail feathers are fabric over 4130 tube.
My friends see this and say "I'm not getting in that thing" when they don't realize that most commercial a/c are made of the same thing :lol
Airplanes are not build to withstand a crash.
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Airplanes are not build to withstand a crash.
Which is why they should make them out of the same stuff they use for the black boxes. :)
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rolf i remember doing something like this, they took my seatbelt cutter too haha. Which was army issue :lol
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14
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(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4417/bs2z.gif)
Toenail clippers are not on the TSA's list of restricted items. (http://www.seatguru.com/articles/tsa_prohibited_items.php#toiletries)
What is the point of this article? Get rid of the TSA and screening?
Who would want to get rid of the TSA and screening?
Hmmmmm
:noid
i find it odd that tools under 7" are allowed as well as screwdrivers :huh
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But why only on planes? As far as I can tell, any terrorist could walk into my kids school and blow it up. Ohhh thats right, planes cost too match and airlines and insurance companies have lobbyists.
Lets get the TSA at the door of every building. Schools, bars, work, restaurants, buses, trains, taxi cubs lol. Why are we only scared that someone would blow up a plane? You can make more damage elsewhere.
Lets get some more drop outs jobs :aok
Yeah, it's a good point. Planes seem to get attention^10.
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Ohhh thats right, planes cost too match and airlines and insurance companies have lobbyists.
Airlines are charged for airport security, so no airport security would suit them fine for their bottom line.
Tronsky
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Airlines are charged for airport security, so no airport security would suit them fine.
Tronsky
Um, you do know that they pass the cost to you plus some change for tip, right?
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They have to front it first through the various airport charges - they recoup through ticket prices, but airlines loath to add extra charges they cant use for themselves.
Tronsky
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Thanks for the tip on US marines and US embassies wrgway.
Does the latest proclamation by seniore' John Mica (R-Fla),
the TSA godfather himself, surprise ya?
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Typical. seize nail clippers from a guy carring an automatic weapon. What do you expect? They are givin granny a cavity search while the southern border is wide open. Not to mention all the people that are exempt from searches, Congress for example. Theres a bunch of criminals that definately need to be strip seached.
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Ohboy ill bring my 30-06 w me next month n ill leave the nail clippers at home.
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Typical. seize nail clippers from a guy carring an automatic weapon. What do you expect? They are givin granny a cavity search while the southern border is wide open. Not to mention all the people that are exempt from searches, Congress for example. Theres a bunch of criminals that definately need to be strip seached.
Pssst, that's not the main way they get it- it's by plane, ship, and car, not sneaking.
-Penguin
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Fun story for you all,
I deployed to afghanistan in Sept 08'. Flying out of the states with my unit we each had a M16 and M9 on hand. It was a military commercial jet. We had engine issues and landed at a public airport for emergency repairs. After touchdown they allow us to enter the airport and have some last minute fun. We left our weapons on the aircraft with a few watches standing security over them. After repairs are made we go back to gate to find ourselves in line for a metal detector before boarding our aircraft again. Due to the fact we were ready to enter the unknown we had all sorts of junk in our pockets. The TSA claimed many pocket knives, utility knifes (My Leathermen), and all sorts of other stuff. Funny how they take pocket knives when we all have assault rifles and pistols on board the aircraft.
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Fun story for you all,
I deployed to afghanistan in Sept 08'. Flying out of the states with my unit we each had a M16 and M9 on hand. It was a military commercial jet. We had engine issues and landed at a public airport for emergency repairs. After touchdown they allow us to enter the airport and have some last minute fun. We left our weapons on the aircraft with a few watches standing security over them. After repairs are made we go back to gate to find ourselves in line for a metal detector before boarding our aircraft again. Due to the fact we were ready to enter the unknown we had all sorts of junk in our pockets. The TSA claimed many pocket knives, utility knifes (My Leathermen), and all sorts of other stuff. Funny how they take pocket knives when we all have assault rifles and pistols on board the aircraft.
And what are you going to do, hijack a military aircraft? Its stupid.
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Security is a joke lol. Any one can walk into my work building or my kids school and take every one out. No TSA there. Why are we so worried about airplanes?
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I think tonight the wife and I will head to the nail clipper range and file off 10 rounds.
bwaahaha :lol
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TSA's new motto....
We now handle more packages than Fedex
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TSA's new motto....
We now handle more packages than Fedex
:lol