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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wayout on November 21, 2010, 07:31:43 AM
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Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45. B29, F6F and F4U shoot down.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b4_1290249734 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b4_1290249734)
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Interesting. Lots of film of crashed aircraft. Warning there are some bodies shown. No real footage of anything in the air except from the ground.
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Wonder if the B-29s where shot down by flack or IJ ACs?
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Very cool. I thought the music worked well too.
It's not so often that we see Allied aircraft in pieces on the ground as we see Axis aircraft aflame. It really brings it home.
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Wonder if the B-29s where shot down by flack or IJ ACs?
There has been a statistic bantied about over the years that 80% of all allied bomber losses in europe were a result of flak, ground fire. I cant imagine why the bombing campaign against Japan would be much different.
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Very cool. I thought the music worked well too.
It's not so often that we see Allied aircraft in pieces on the ground as we see Axis aircraft aflame. It really brings it home.
There was a brief glimps of three dead US airmen in the B29 wreckage. Stills fills me with a sense of tragic loss. That is what war is. A tragic loss.
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When looking at the wreckage of the B-29, it looks like they just dropped out of the sky rather then diving or crash landing.
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On another forum the Corsair experts identified the bellied in Corsair as one from the Essex. The pilot was taken prisoner and despite numerous beatings, he did survive the war. Went down to an ack hit in a fuel line.
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According to Joe Baugher's site, B-29 42-24766 (500th BG) was rammed by an enemy fighter Jan 3, 1945. MACR 10905.
Japanese newsreels site here:
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/list.cgi
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According to Joe Baugher's site, B-29 42-24766 (500th BG) was rammed by an enemy fighter Jan 3, 1945. MACR 10905.
Japanese newsreels site here:
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/list.cgi
All in Japanese! Can't read.
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Scroll down a bit and look on the left. Newsreels arranged by month and date.
"1940年6月（1～3号）" for example means Year 1940, Month 6 (June), Newsreels 1-3
Probably best to go to 1945, start in August and work backwards from there.
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Hmmm, no August 1945, obvious reasons.
The film from 1 July 1945 features Ki-43s (ye Godz, Hayates at that point of the war...) and Raiden fighters, on the ground and flying shots:
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300382_00000&seg_number=001
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June of 1945, torpedo planes take off to join the fight for Okinawa. Floatplanes search for US submarines:
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300381_00000&seg_number=002
Edit - Kamikaze aircraft take off from Kyushu for Okinawa, 600km distant.
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300377_00000&seg_number=004
sigh
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You'll see text to the right of the video - text is in a space same dimensions as the video. That is the transcript of the relevant newsreel.
Copy and paste that into Babel Fish web translator and you'll get a decent idea of what's being said.
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On another forum the Corsair experts identified the bellied in Corsair as one from the Essex. The pilot was taken prisoner and despite numerous beatings, he did survive the war. Went down to an ack hit in a fuel line.
I can not image the fear he gone through. Plane no longer flyable, will I survive the crash or not?! I am going down on main land Japan, will I survive the ordeal of POW or not?!
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I can not image the fear he gone through. Plane no longer flyable, will I survive the crash or not?! I am going down on main land Japan, will I survive the ordeal of POW or not?!
If you ever want to level-set your life, and be very thankful for what you have, no matter what kind of life you're leading...read "A P.O.W.'S Story: 2801 days in Hanoi" by Col. Larry Guarino.
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If you ever want to level-set your life, and be very thankful for what you have, no matter what kind of life you're leading...read "A P.O.W.'S Story: 2801 days in Hanoi" by Col. Larry Guarino.
I don't have to read a book, my dad's uncle was a POW in the Pacific. Capture in the Philippines 1942, Bataan death march, Camp O'Donnal, Hell ship to Manchuria and remain POW till Aug 1945. Hear enough stories out of him.
http://www.wwiimemorial.com/registry/search/pframe.asp?HonoreeID=1571281&popcount=9&tcount=18 (http://www.wwiimemorial.com/registry/search/pframe.asp?HonoreeID=1571281&popcount=9&tcount=18) :salute
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*hint*
Use Google Chrome and it translates everything. No extra translators needed...
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double..
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oops triple post
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I can not image the fear he gone through. Plane no longer flyable, will I survive the crash or not?! I am going down on main land Japan, will I survive the ordeal of POW or not?!
From the thread on the WIX forum.
"...2nd Lt Donald Carlson was forced down in enemy territory due to a gas leak after the attack. He was reported as a probable prisoner-of-war.
(Carlson made "a hard landing in a plowed field. `Good luck to you guys; say Howdy to my wifeŽ he said calmly into his throat mike, `IŽll be seeing you at MikeŽs.Ž Carlson made good his promise; six months later he was liberated, alive and as well as a man could expect who had lost his teeth during frequent beatings, had been starved and put in solitary confinement for 40 days." -- Sherrod, History of Marine Corps Aviation in World War II.)"
No doubt he was covering much of that fear with false bravado
2nd Lt. Donald Carlson
(http://www.airgroup4.com/donald-a-carlson.jpg)
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Anyone know the source of the music in that video? I'd be interested in knowing.
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Found it:
Journey To The Line by Hans Zimmer
From the Thin Red Line
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG9-j3eevL4
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According to Joe Baugher's site, B-29 42-24766 (500th BG) was rammed by an enemy fighter Jan 3, 1945. MACR 10905.
Japanese newsreels site here:
http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/list.cgi
:eek:
that's... comprehensive!
I wish there's an equivalent site for american newsreels (Universal?), german newsreels (Die Deutsche Wochenschau?), and soviet newsreels :pray
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Wochenschau can be downloaded from here:
http://nsl-archiv.info/Filme/Deutsche-Wochenschauen/heil.php
There's some good stuff on British Pathe, but you have to search around for it. Last I looked, it wasn't chronological, but that may have changed:
http://www.britishpathe.com/
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Anyone know the source of the music in that video? I'd be interested in knowing.
*EDIT*
Found it:
Journey To The Line by Hans Zimmer
From the Thin Red Line
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG9-j3eevL4
I was interested in that as well. Beautiful and somber music. I thought it might have been from "Last Samurai"? It sounds familiar to me anyway.
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I was interested in that as well. Beautiful and somber music. I thought it might have been from "Last Samurai"? It sounds familiar to me anyway.
Soundtrack to Pearl Harbor.
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On another forum the Corsair experts identified the bellied in Corsair as one from the Essex. The pilot was taken prisoner and despite numerous beatings, he did survive the war. Went down to an ack hit in a fuel line.
The white horizontal stripe on the tail would have been a VMF-124/213 off of the Essex.
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Anyone know the source of the music in that video? I'd be interested in knowing.
*EDIT*
Found it:
Journey To The Line by Hans Zimmer
From the Thin Red Line
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG9-j3eevL4
:aok
I was looking for that one as well.
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Very, very interesting footage! Thank you Wayout!
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J2Ms always look so odd to me when on the ground. Like their landing gear are much too short.