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Title: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 21, 2010, 07:36:58 AM
Adventure in the Dodecenes
Operation Accolade (1943)

PLAYBILITY NOTES
Several non-historical adaptations have been made to this campaign to make it playable for 400+ players.

1) Obviously the both sides had more planes involved in the battle than were historical available and involved in the battle for Dodecanese campaign in 1943.

2) British air assets were based out of Cyprus and later Kos. British Carriers were not involved in the scaled campaign of just invading the Dodecanese instead of the Dodecanese and Crete. British CVs have been added to the event to allow for flexibility and increase the theater of operations.

3) We do not have the appropriate British Carrier dive bomber so the SBD will be subbing for it.

4) Historically the Italian air assets in the Dodecenes and Greek theater were SM.79s, Cant.Z1007s, CR.42, and M.200s. For playability sake the Italians will be given
M.202s, M.205s, and Ju87s; all of which they operated at the time of their capitulation but in a different theater.

5) The theater of operations has been widen to the original goals of Accolade, which were Crete, the Greek Islands, and the Dodecenes islands.

6) The B26 and Mossie have been added to the British side. The British did not have bombers involved historically in this campaign except 3 days in October and 2 days in November. Beaufighters were used so the Mossie should be a decent replacement.

7) I have given the Germans 110G2 for balance purposes.

8) Historically P38s were involved in the campaign but only to cover the British withdrawal from the Dodecenes. So they will be available in frame 3


DESCRIPTION
With the defeat of Axis forces in North Africa in spring 1943, Winston Churchill advocated that the Allies should strike German forces in the Aegean next. He envisaged an operation to capture the Dodecanese and Crete which would not only deprive the Axis of excellent forward bases in the Mediterranean, but also apply pressure on neutral Turkey to join the war. In addition, this would also provide a supply route through the Dardanelles to Russia as an alternative to the current Arctic Convoys and route through Iran in use. At the Casablanca Conference, the initial go-ahead was given, and Churchill ordered his commanders to lay out relevant plans on 27 January 1943.

The plans, codenamed "Operation Accolade," called for a direct attack on Rhodes and Karpathos, with three infantry divisions, an armored brigade, and relevant support units. Landings at Crete were dropped because it was too well fortified and had a strong German garrison. The main problem faced by the planners was the difficulty of countering the X Fliegerkorps of the Luftwaffe because of a lack of air cover, since the allied aircraft were based in Cyprus and the Middle East. Demands for aircraft, supplies, ships, and troops for the upcoming invasion of Sicily further exacerbated operational planning for Accolade. The United States was also skeptical about the operation, which they regarded as aiming mostly at post-war political benefits for Britain, and an unnecessary diversion from the main front in Italy. Ultimately, the U.S. refused to support Operation Accolade and warned the British that they would have to go on alone.

As an Italian surrender became increasingly possible, in August 1943 the British started preparations to take quickly advantage of a possible Italian-German split, in the form of a scaled-down "Accolade". A force based on 8th Indian Division started being assembled, and America assistance in the form of P-38 Lightning long-range fighter squadrons was requested. As a result of the Quebec Conference however, and the American refusal to assist the British plans and the forces and ships earmarked for "Accolade" were diverted to other fronts, barely a week before the surrender of Italy on 8 September.

On the announcement of the Armistice, the Italian garrisons on most of the Dodecanese Islands either wanted to change sides and fight with the Allies or just return to their homes. However, in anticipation of the Italian surrender, German forces, based largely in mainland Greece, already had plans in placed to counter this and rushed to block the British from taking control of the islands as they launched operation Accolade.



PLANESET FOR THE FSO

BRITISH (Allied)
B-26B
Mosquito MK VI
P-38G (limited and only in Frame 3)
Spitfire V
Spitfire IX
Seafire II
SBD

ITALIAN (Allied)
C.202
C.205
Ju87D-3

GERMAN (Axis)
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110G-2
Ju87D-3
Ju 88A-4
 
COUNTRY PERCENTAGES
The sides will be divided into roughly 49% Allies and 51% Axis, do to the Axis historically turning out slightly less than the allies in events.

 
SCORING

AIRCRAFT
05 pts - Single Engine AC with 1 crew
10 pts - Single or double engine AC with 2 crew
15 pts - Double Engine AC with 3+ crew

BASES
288 - Small Airfield
396 - Medium Airfield
572 - Large Airfield
219 - Vehicle Base

SHIPS
CV - 120 points
CA - 60 points
DD - 30 points

NOTE: When a base is attacked the attacker gets the points for objects destroyed at the base while the defender gets the points for all objects not destroyed at the base.

 
ARENA SETTINGS
- Greece
- Fuel 1.00
- Icons --> Friendly and Enemy 3K at all altitudes
- .5 Ack
- Radar: none
- Fighter and Bomber warning range 26,000 (about 5 miles)
- Tower range set to 26,000 (for display only to match the above setting)
- Clouds / visibility
  Frame 1, 11 miles
  Frame 2, 7 miles
  Frame 3, 8 miles
- Radar off
- Friendly collisions off
- Enemy collisions on
- Kill shooter off
- Calm winds
- Time: 11 AM
 
 
SPECIAL RULES
 
NOTE: special rules sent out with the objectives trump these special rules.

1. Nobody gets a second life.

2. Bomber formations are enabled for B26s and JU88s.

4. Partial damage is awarded for CV damage. If the a CV suffers 2000 lbs of damage  40 points are awarded. If a CV suffers 4000 lbs of damage another 40 points are awarded for a total of 80. If the CV is sunk the full amount of 120 points is awarded (the last 40 points is added to the previous 80).
 
5. A minimum and maximum number will be assigned to each aircraft type. The CiC of each side must deploy the designated minimum per aircraft type and can not more than the maximum per aircraft type. Outside of that the CiCs can deploy the aircraft types anyway the want (i.e. can have squads fly 2 aircraft types and in split they wish as long as squads are assigned same objective).

6. If both CiCs agree they may have the setup CM end the frame early. This is usually done if one side wipes out the other side (i.e. 60 versus 5).

7. Dead pilots may gun bombers. They may not man the guns of airfields or ships.

8. Ships can maneuver by the their side during the frame as long as they stay in their containment area. Ships must stay in containment area defined in the objective orders. If they go outside of the containment area a penalty will be assessed.

9. All targets must be attacked within the first hour of the event. Both CiCs should include sending their battle plans to me so that I have proof that they planned to attack their targets by T+60.

10. All attack targets assigned must be attacked by a credible force. I define a credible force to be at the very least 2 x 4-6 squads (so 8-12 planes) or 1 7x10 squad. Obviously CiCs can deploy a larger force per target as their plan dictates but no defending or attacking with just 1 x 4-6 squad.

11. All defense targets must be defended by a credible force. I define a credible force to be at the very least I define a credible force to be at the very least 2 x 4-6 squads (so 8-12 planes) or 1 7x10 squad.Obviously CiCs can deploy a larger force per target as their plan dictates but no defending or attacking with just 1 x 4-6 squad.

12. Bombing calibration will be MA norm.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: TUK on November 21, 2010, 10:56:03 AM
Hey Ghostdancer. What is the Fso schedule gonna be like, as far as the dates go?   :salute
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 21, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
The FSO dates are:

FR1 - 12/3
FR2 - 12/10
FR3 - 12/17

So we are smack dab between the two holidays.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Ghosth on November 21, 2010, 10:43:52 PM
Question, how can you include the Spit 9 for the allies and not have a German 190? Granted it should be a 190a3 or 4.

But wasn't the spit 9 developed as a direct result of the German deploying the 190A5?
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 22, 2010, 06:03:54 AM
Ghosth I am doing that basically because that was what historically deployed. Remember this was not a major theater for the Germans. Their more advanced stuff was deployed in Italy, Russia, and France at this time. Greece only became active because Italy surrendered. The British also made the mistake of only deploying 2 Squadrons to the campaign. The other planes that became involved on their side were deployed to help cover their withdrawal.

X Fliegerkorps has 109G2 and 109G6 during the campaign. The British deployed two squadrons from Cyprus to Kos, 7th Squadron SAAF in Spit Vs and 74th Squadron RAF in Spit IXs. The frame setups will have more Spit Vs and Seafires required than Spit IXs to reflect that the older models were more available than the Spit IX in theater (with more Spit IXs going to Italy than Greece).

Now with all of this said I have already made some playability changes so I will see how frame 1 goes and reserve the right to readjust things if I deem it necessary.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Viper61 on November 22, 2010, 03:03:11 PM
So a mid war set up with early war AC..... so to speak.  Should be fun as long as the set ups remain pretty evenly divided and we all trust you on that GD.

I'm surprised the British didn't employ some Hurri's?  If so they would have been early war versions I am sure.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Der Jude on November 22, 2010, 03:08:20 PM
Your goin down Allies! :banana:
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Dantoo on November 22, 2010, 08:09:02 PM
Dodecanese.  Dodecene reminds me too much of organic chemistry back in the day.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Ghosth on November 23, 2010, 07:23:01 AM
TY Ghostdancer for the explanation.

Seems like an unbalanced plane set but if that's what was there, ok.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 23, 2010, 09:46:19 AM
No problem Ghosth and as I said after I see actual results for frame 1 I will tweak if I deem necessary. And no, the Axis don't have enough Scotch to offer to get a 262 into the plane set. ;)
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: AKKuya on November 25, 2010, 09:24:03 AM
I'm always curious as to why the Stuka is part of a planeset and never mandantarily used by the CM's.  Earlier this year, I had to privately PM the CM at the time to reduce the Ju-88's mininum to include the Stuka.  Any Early War set-up would handle the Stukas quite well and Mid War set-ups are still doable for the Stukas. 

Once a planeset is established, shouldn't all planes be required?
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: 007Rusty on November 25, 2010, 09:35:11 AM
 :aok looks good  :salute  :cheers:
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 25, 2010, 09:55:08 AM
Depends on the designer. Sometimes planes are added just for flavor. Say in the case of 109G2 or 109F4. From my perspective as a designer it doesn't really change the balance of a frame if everybody goes with say an F4 over a G2. Of course this doesn't apply to Dodecenes.

In the case of this FSO I could have also included the F4F (Martlet) as well as the Seafire. Personally I would have been good if the Allies used mainly one or the other and if I included the Martlet it would just have been for flavor. I didn't because I decided not to muddy things up, so to speak.

As for the Ju87 their will be minimum requirements for both sides on its use. Plus, it is the only bomb carrying aircraft for the Italians.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: RSLQK186 on November 25, 2010, 10:14:48 AM
Fond memory of a Stuka NOE that went well. Got in and tore the stat up. On the way out we fought I-16s. They were split up for scouting and came in pairs. The bulk of the defenders in newer AC had high 88s to contend with. We had the advantage of mass on the deck. Chewed them up and most of us got out with our airframes. There were landing points to be had and the long return flight negated a second strike.
But, we stayed in the air longer than usual, devastated the target and had a long drawn out dog fight. :aok
If 2 opposing Ju-87 flights cross paths and tangle, how about a gentleman's agreement to sit back for a few minuets and let them have at it?
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: AKKuya on November 25, 2010, 10:40:05 AM
Just illuminating the fact that if there was a high contender for a bomber hangar queen for FSO, that the Stuka would be numero uno.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 25, 2010, 11:29:17 AM
Oh, I agree and if you are most likely right that if I don't put a minimum number on it that the Axis would just use Ju88s and the Allies just use B26s.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Dantoo on November 25, 2010, 08:27:41 PM
Dodecene-1 (C12) is a colourless liquid. It is a combustible liquid and vapour.  It is not 12 Greek Islands.

It would be adventurous to swim or play in dodecene, just not fun.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Dantoo on November 25, 2010, 08:29:14 PM
double post
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 26, 2010, 06:05:42 AM
Yes, yes my lacking of spelling skills strike again. :)

Adventure in the Dodecanese.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: perdue3 on November 28, 2010, 08:44:32 PM
Why the hell do the Allies get Italian airplanes? Please tell me this is either a sick joke or am I actually that historically uninformed.

Hopefully typo

perdweeb
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 28, 2010, 08:54:31 PM
Because when Italy surrendered in 1943 quite a few Italian units went over to the Allied side. The Italian Air force split in two at the armistice. The Royalist "Italian Co-Belligerent Air Force" (Aviazione Cobelligerante Italiana, or ACI) fought for the Allied forces. The Fascist "National Republican Air Force" (Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana, or ANR) continued to fight for the Axis. Historically the Italian forces in Greece and Dodacenes switched over to the Allied side and the Italian garrisons in the Dodacenes fought the Germans unsuccessfully. While the Germans already had a plan in place on mainland Greece and disarmed the Italian Garrisons quickly before they could do anything.

Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: perdue3 on November 28, 2010, 08:57:25 PM
Ok, lame.


perdweeb
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Der Jude on November 29, 2010, 10:18:38 AM
Because when Italy surrendered in 1943 quite a few Italian units went over to the Allied side. The Italian Air force split in two at the armistice. The Royalist "Italian Co-Belligerent Air Force" (Aviazione Cobelligerante Italiana, or ACI) fought for the Allied forces. The Fascist "National Republican Air Force" (Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana, or ANR) continued to fight for the Axis. Historically the Italian forces in Greece and Dodacenes switched over to the Allied side and the Italian garrisons in the Dodacenes fought the Germans unsuccessfully. While the Germans already had a plan in place on mainland Greece and disarmed the Italian Garrisons quickly before they could do anything.



if you let my squad go allied this FSO, i garuntee we will be banned for shooting down friendlies in our C2's. those italians might have sold out but we wont. <S> slimebag spy unit and Boris :banana:
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 29, 2010, 10:22:15 AM
LOL.

Well I toyed with the idea of having the Italians as a third country and then letting them choose who they allied with or not on a squad level. ;)

Then I came to my senses and realized the havoc that would cause for game balance, even if that is historically what happened.
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: Der Jude on November 29, 2010, 10:58:46 AM
LOL.

Well I toyed with the idea of having the Italians as a third country and then letting them choose who they allied with or not on a squad level. ;)

Then I came to my senses and realized the havoc that would cause for game balance, even if that is historically what happened.

its kidna weird dude. i mean one day theyre shooting down spitfires and the next theyre helping shoot down g2's? if i was italian id be pissed
Title: Re: FSO December: Adventure in the Dodecenes (1943)
Post by: ghostdancer on November 29, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
From historical accounts I have read it was very weird for the pilots. Then again Italy did the same in World War I switching from one side to another. The difference this time is basically they broke into two camps. The Royalist camp who worked with the Allies and the Facist camp who stayed with the Axis. Also remember public opinion on many Italians really swung against the Germans and Mussolini by this stage of the war as the Sicily was invaded and conquered and then Italy was invaded and became the front line.

The Royalist air force operated in the Balkans, while the Facists operated in Northern Italy and the Baltic sea. The allies made sure that the Royalist Italians never faced off against the Facist Italians for fears of what would happen.