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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: MANDOBLE on December 13, 2001, 10:38:00 AM
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Do you recommend DX8.1 for a W98/GF3/K7/X36 system over DX8.0a?
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Yup,
Course the real issue is will all your devices be compatitble? DX8.1 has alot of support for older as well as many of the newer devices. I recommend updating all your drivers prior to install...just remember you cannot UNINSTALL DX...you must RE-Install Win98 to get it back to an earlier version.
Lastly, are you running win98SE???
Cyan
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Neg, plain W98.
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Moi Mandoble!
Yes
My PC
PIII800
Asus Culs2
256M/100MHz
Asus GF2 MX 32m
SB Live! Value
Saitek X36 usb
Win 98SE
SGE ver. 2.3
DX 8.1
I get better fps that before.
PIII800 I mean, not PII800
[ 12-13-2001: Message edited by: Xjazz ]
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Cyan,
You're wrong.
I uninstalled DX 8.1 beta version and installed DX 8a
Total lock ups with some games dissapeared totally :)
Haven't dared to touch DX 8.1 after that ;)
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Fishu news: Dx8.1 is no longer beta.
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I'm Using DX8.0a and get frequent system lockups. No particular pattern to them just every couple of sorties the screen locks solid. Im running W2K pro. Would you guys recommend I upgrade to 8.1?
<S>
Gremlin
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Originally posted by Mr RiplEy:
Fishu news: Dx8.1 is no longer beta.
Like I said, I uninstalled DX 8.1 beta and haven't dared to touch 8.1 after that.
I've known it from day 1 when DX 8.1 got official.
So go away smartass, you didn't read yourself.
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Fishu its not very smart to judge the performance of a software by running the beta. You should know that.
Your actions are not logical.
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I downloaded and installed DX8.1. While in some cases Dx8.1 gives you boost of 25% more fps than 8.0a, overal performance is similar than with 8.0a.
My system:
K7 700 386 MB
GF3 Ti 500 (Leadtek latest drivers).
W98 (not SE).
SB64
X36 + CH pedals.
AH performance 1280x1024x32 no FSAA:
42 - 65 fps. Normal fps into a low furball are about 44. Similar numbers at 1024x768 and FSAA x 2.
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i got directx 8.1 just installed yesterday and using win98SE. I am getting small freeze up while getting fired at or fire at enemy. Other time is when i engage enemy at close up at Merges. Any ideas?? could be the directX issue?? Man i am so lost.
Bash
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One thing you can do is to switch off sound debugging from DX options.
I recall having the same problem with 8.0a and soundblaster live!
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Originally posted by Mr RiplEy:
Fishu its not very smart to judge the performance of a software by running the beta. You should know that.
Your actions are not logical.
Where did I judge it? nowhere.
All im saying im sticking up to DX8a since theres no need for better yet.
Isn't it my business do I wan't to have 8.1 or not?
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No its not your business because I'm saying you should get it. Now. Perkele.
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Cyan,
You're wrong.
I uninstalled DX 8.1 beta version and installed DX 8a
Total lock ups with some games dissapeared totally
Haven't dared to touch DX 8.1 after that
Ahh Fishu...check again my friend.....directly from Microsofts site.
Q. How do I uninstall DirectX?
A. DirectX 8.1 is a system component and cannot be uninstalled. If there is a problem with the DirectX install, it can normally be resolved by shutting down all running applications and reinstalling. As mentioned previously, DirectX 8.1 is fully backward-compatible with titles written for previous versions of DirectX. If you are having other problems after installing DirectX 8.1, these can often be resolved by installing updated drivers for your display card, audio card, or input device.
;)
Microsofts Direct X site. (http://www.microsoft.com/directx/homeuser/faq.asp#dx17)
[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: Cyan ]
[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: Cyan ]
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...just remember you cannot UNINSTALL DX...you must RE-Install Win98 to get it back to an earlier version.
BS... just use the system file checker utility in Win98 to revert back to the DX version the OS shipped with, 5.1 in original Win98 and 7.0 in Win98 SE. ;)
Don't listen to Microsloth, their technical support is......lacking.
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Yes,
You can edit the registry and sys files to revert back to the older DX files...but that is not technically uninstalling.
You can also do all kinds of neat stuff with windows by hacking the registry and system files...but you can also screw up a bunch of stuff if you don't know what you are doing.
Cyan :)
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Open the start menu, accessories, system tools, system information, choose tools from the drop down menu and run system file checker.
In the advanced tab configure it to look for changed or deleted files and then run it, when you see a changed version of DirectX use the restore original file option and when complete reboot for an exact copy of the originally installed DX or system files.
The Win98 tools allow you to fix almost any Windoze problem imaginable, but only if you know how to use them. ;)
Every system I build or set up for a customer is easily returned to an as delivered status, it's saves me a ton of time and headaches and is EASY money. :cool:
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Originally posted by bashwolf:
i got directx 8.1 just installed yesterday and using win98SE. I am getting small freeze up while getting fired at or fire at enemy. Other time is when i engage enemy at close up at Merges. Any ideas?? could be the directX issue?? Man i am so lost.
Bash
I'll bet you have a SBLive sound card?
Private message me Bash, I can make it go away. ;)
[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: weazel ]
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Weazle...that still doesnt completely uninstall DX.
Look, we can go back and forth on this one all day...sure you can image a disk prior to a DX install and then reformat to an original image...thats what I do whenever I build a system for someone...it insures I can take the system back to the way it was prior to them screwing with it.
But DX cannot be uninstalled in the convential way. It becomes part of the OS...a very deep part of the OS. If you dont believe me do a DX install, go through the motions of uninstaling it, then run nortons registry program or one of the like and you will find all sorts of problems with the registry.
I have been coding with and using DX for a long time now...and I can assure you...the avg user is going to do more harm then good trying to go forward and back with DX.
Cheers!
Cyan
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Theres DX uninstall tools.
Those will fix up registry and system files so no DX files exists.
Thats the way how I did it, as complete uninstall as it can get :)