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Title: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 23, 2010, 05:39:54 PM
OK..its a bit rough,but basically what would happen is that one would get a flat perk for killing in field guns or cv guns and it would have its own heading,like oh...KILLSHOTS or something like that..well it could either be adjusted for eny or not,BUT the thing which would be cool is that the KILLSHOT perks could be MOVED to any other heading.i.e.  fighter/bomber/gv..I think this would be a great thing for those who are really good in those guns,and just for the record,I am NOT...so this is actually for the guys who kill me.. :salute
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: JOACH1M on November 23, 2010, 05:45:41 PM
OK..its a bit rough,but basically what would happen is that one would get a flat perk for killing in field guns or cv guns and it would have its own heading,like oh...KILLSHOTS or something like that..well it could either be adjusted for eny or not,BUT the thing which would be cool is that the KILLSHOT perks could be MOVED to any other heading.i.e.  fighter/bomber/gv..I think this would be a great thing for those who are really good in those guns,and just for the record,I am NOT...so this is actually for the guys who kill me.. :salute
Maybe, but only if your ship gets destroyed you don't land the kills.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: ImADot on November 23, 2010, 06:10:17 PM
Maybe if you also get scored as a death when said gun is destroyed while still in it.  Otherwise, there is no risk to sitting in a manned gun so there should be no reward for kills scored with it.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 23, 2010, 06:15:46 PM
You don't face any risks in a gun emplacement, so there shouldn't be any rewards.

ack-ack
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 23, 2010, 06:31:39 PM
risk to what ack ack?? no different than flying a plane..and I could see losing perks if you get killed in it...but it is very easy to kill the guns also,so have to adjust for that...
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 23, 2010, 06:33:54 PM
risk to what ack ack?? no different than flying a plane..and I could see losing perks if you get killed in it...but it is very easy to kill the guns also,so have to adjust for that...


There is no risk at all manning a gun emplacement compared to driving a GV or flying a plane.  When your emplacement gets blown up, it doesn't score it as a death and if you have killed, it is treated as though it's a successful "sortie".  Please explain to me where the risk is in that.

ack-ack
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 23, 2010, 06:58:48 PM
ok.well it could be coded..but sorry you disagree,I am just throwing it out there.,,do you not man guns??if so.wouldnt u like to earn some small perk,and if you dont,why care??

Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 23, 2010, 07:02:08 PM
ok.well it could be coded..but sorry you disagree,I am just throwing it out there.,,do you not man guns??if so.wouldnt u like to earn some small perk,and if you dont,why care??



I don't bother with manning ack guns, but that still doesn't change the fact that if you don't have the same risks as those that drive GVs or fly a plane then you shouldn't be rewards like those that  do.

ack-ack
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 23, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
OK..its a bit rough,but basically what would happen is that one would get a flat perk for killing in field guns or cv guns and it would have its own heading,like oh...KILLSHOTS or something like that..well it could either be adjusted for eny or not,BUT the thing which would be cool is that the KILLSHOT perks could be MOVED to any other heading.i.e.  fighter/bomber/gv..I think this would be a great thing for those who are really good in those guns,and just for the record,I am NOT...so this is actually for the guys who kill me.. :salute

+1 :aok
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 24, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
lets maybe give a flat 0.05 perk for every kill scored in a gun..the gunners in this game deserve something..I mean I have tried it and scored some kills,but the guys who are consistent truly deserve something,and maybe this will get other people to want to up in guns as well and learn another aspect of the game..
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: bacon8tr on November 24, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
My thought on this is if we ever had towed artillery, then earning perks in the manned guns could be used to acquire the artillery pieces.  :rock
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 24, 2010, 02:40:24 PM
My thought on this is if we ever had towed artillery, then earning perks in the manned guns could be used to acquire the artillery pieces.  :rock

As long as those in a gun emplacement are killed their sortie is counted as a death (which it isn't currently) and not a successful landing as it is now.

ack-ack
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 24, 2010, 03:42:24 PM
would it really ruin your fun ack ack if this was implemented???and if so..HOW?
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: minke on November 24, 2010, 03:44:19 PM
If it counts as a death when killed then you should get a large amount of perks when shooting stuff down. They are too easy to kill.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Yossarian on November 24, 2010, 03:49:11 PM
If it counts as a death when killed then you should get a large amount of perks when shooting stuff down. They are too easy to kill.

Agreed.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 24, 2010, 04:49:56 PM
I think a 0.05 perk for kills in guns is really reasonable...
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 24, 2010, 05:12:26 PM
would it really ruin your fun ack ack if this was implemented???and if so..HOW?

It wouldn't ruin my fun but you're asking for a reward for taking on no risk at all.  Currently, if you are in a gun emplacement and it gets destroyed, your death doesn't count towards you at all.  It's not scored as a death, if you have kills when your gun emplacement is destroyed your sortie is counted as a successful landing and get your name in lights.  It would be no fair to those that drive vehicles or fly planes if those in gun emplacements get perks for basically sitting on their tulips taking no risks. 

You want perks for sitting on your bellybutton all day in a gun emplacement?  Sure, but when you die your death is counted against you.

No Risk = No Reward


ack-ack
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: bacon8tr on November 24, 2010, 06:42:15 PM
IMO I would make the concession that if I jumped in a manned gun and was killed it counted against me, only if I was earning perks for kills made in the gun.  Nothing risked, nothing gained.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Dadsguns on November 24, 2010, 07:21:52 PM

You want perks for sitting on your bellybutton all day in a gun emplacement?  Sure, but when you die your death is counted against you.

No Risk = No Reward

+1 if ^ is implemented
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 24, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
well,then it would have to be a pretty serious perk,as guns are VERY,VERY easy to kill..the easiest thing to kill in-game..so..5 perks per kill instead of .05???

 And again these perks can be MOVED to any of the other options..i.e. fighter/gv/bomber...
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Dadsguns on November 24, 2010, 07:34:02 PM
And again these perks can be MOVED to any of the other options..i.e. fighter/gv/bomber...

-10  No, get out and earn them like everyone else that fights for them above 100 ft.     :devil
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 24, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
well,then it would have to be a pretty serious perk,as guns are VERY,VERY easy to kill..the easiest thing to kill in-game..so..5 perks per kill instead of .05???

 And again these perks can be MOVED to any of the other options..i.e. fighter/gv/bomber...

Perks should be given just as the same as how perks are awarded for killing GVs and planes, it's dependent on the plane you kill.

ack-ack
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: mbailey on November 24, 2010, 07:54:57 PM
  It would be no fair to those that drive vehicles or fly planes if those in gun emplacements get perks for basically sitting on their tulips taking no risks. 

You want perks for sitting on your bellybutton all day in a gun emplacement?  Sure, but when you die your death is counted against you.

No Risk = No Reward


ack-ack

I believe he said coad it so there is a "risk".
Also, weather or not your in a plane, GV or field gun, your still just sitting on your ass.

No Risk ever, at all, because its just a game
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: minke on November 24, 2010, 07:55:34 PM
My personal take is that there should be a perk/death cost for all manned ack and a/c gunners. Possibly even having a seperate score and perk system such as 'gunnery' to allow for future stuff like perked ords or even artillery.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 24, 2010, 09:00:11 PM
-10  No, get out and earn them like everyone else that fights for them above 100 ft.     :devil

 DADS leave the attitude in the game..

 There is nothing to use perks on if you can get them with a gun,so my suggestion is to have them to use for a rainy day,or any other reason..and you missed my first post dads..I rarely if ever get in field guns,so its really not myself I am looking out for..
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Dadsguns on November 25, 2010, 06:05:02 AM
DADS leave the attitude in the game..

 There is nothing to use perks on if you can get them with a gun,so my suggestion is to have them to use for a rainy day,or any other reason..and you missed my first post dads..I rarely if ever get in field guns,so its really not myself I am looking out for..

There isnt any attitude, its a simple reply to a statement that screams "make it easy for me", "what can I get with little or no effort or risk", etc etc....  

Just like what has been said, No Risk = No Reward.  

Take a Risk like Death counting against you = You get a reward.

.  
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 25, 2010, 11:40:13 AM
EASY??? for very few I believe it is easy to hit planes in guns,unless in 5inchers,and then nothing is guaranteed,but it is VERY EASY to kill gun emplacements on fields,and even on cv's..
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Rino on November 25, 2010, 11:46:14 AM
     So what would you use your perks on if you are going to squat in field guns and 5 inch batteries all the time?
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 25, 2010, 02:56:24 PM
the gunning perks would be moveable..you could use  them under other headings..fighter/gv/bomber..
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: Bruv119 on November 25, 2010, 03:01:51 PM
would it really ruin your fun ack ack if this was implemented???and if so..HOW?

Yes it will increase the amount of  "gun sitters"   why up a plane and fight when you can sit in your toasty gun emplacement without fear of getting killed or penalised and then make a meal out of some guy who has put in the effort of flying 10 minutes to target.  

There are far too many gun/tower sitting coward dweebs as it is!
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: falcon23 on November 25, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
yea bruv,but just because they sit in them does not mean they are "GOOD"..And there are only so many soft guns on any one field..
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: krazey on November 25, 2010, 08:37:30 PM
Bruv you KNOW i fly, you've flown with me in SEA operations, as well as shooting me down in MA.. so you KNOW im not a coward... but I AM one of those who will use a softgun to defend a base, or a SB to sink a cv..and at the risk of blowing my own trumpet im better at that than any other aspect of the game. I also agree that there should be a penalty for deaths in fieldguns. Its always bugged me how i get my name up for kills when I die in one. But when a fieldgun is so easy to kill if i survive long enough to kill 6 ,7 or 15 enemy planes ( only done that once ) then it kinda sucks that i get nothing at all for it.

 Dadsguns ,2 of your posts fairly scream " im too darned lazy to read a whole post" , If you HAD read the whole post that falcon made you would have known he wasnt asking for anything to be made easier for him as he admits he sucks in the darned guns. He was actually asking for something that would benefit OTHER people. But meh, I'm not gonna get into a flame war with you.. it isnt worth it.

 SO, to get back on subject... Perk points for field gunners.. yes please but also have deaths work same as with vehicles etc. No name on the board etc... Im not sure about having the perks spreadable tho... maybe have them go to vehicle points? I dunno on that aspect. Or maybe have a gunner select where the perks go in the same way as you do in certain planes , " score as A or B " kinda thing.
Title: Re: New idea for perks when killing in guns/cv
Post by: krazey on November 26, 2010, 05:45:23 AM
just noticed I forgot to say who i am ingame, my bad, was very tired when I posted last.. My callsign is hermit.