Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: jimson on November 23, 2010, 06:11:30 PM

Title: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 23, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll149/jimsom88/Rhine.jpg)

Götterdämmerung - The Push to the Rhine

As the spring thaws come to Germany, the last remaining vestiges of Germany's Panzerwaffe and Luftwaffe stage a fighting withdrawal into the heart of Germany - the industrial Rhine valley. The supply situation for the Allies has improved slightly, but armor units are still outpacing their supply lines, leaving themselves dangerously exposed as they press forward. Large-scale armor opposition has virtually disappeared, but more dangerous are the small guerrilla units of Tigers and Panzers roaming around the countryside. Although on the defensive, German forces are now on their own soil, making resupply much easier.

Armed with the vaunted Tiger and Me-262, the Germans are hard pressed to slow down the fighter bombers of the RAF and USAAF. All the while, Mustangs and Spitfires are on the prowl for the Messerschmitts and Focke-Wulfs of the Luftwaffe.

This is a fixed planeset, with perked aircraft and vehicles available at rear-area bases. Taking a perk plane might seem like a no-brainer, but the better the aircraft, the farther from the front you will be.

Specific aircraft types are outfitted for specific duties. In addition, British forces will be operating in the north, while US forces will be operating in the south.

Allied fighter aircraft will carry no ords.
P-38J
P-51B
P-51D
P-47M
Spitfire XVI
Spitfire XIV
Tempest

Allied fighter bombers will carry ords
P-38J
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
Typhoon
Hurricane IID
Mossie

Allied Bombers will operate from rear bases
Lancaster
B-17
B-27
B-25
B-26
Boston
A-20G
C-47 all airfields

Axis fighter units
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109K-4
Fw-190A-8
Fw-190D-9
Ta-152H
Me-262

Axis Fighter Bomber units
Bf-109G-6
Bf-109G-14
Fw-190F-8

Axis Bomber units
Ju-87
Ju-88
Ar-234
Ju-52 all airfields (sub C47)

Ground vehicles - in historical context, the Axis forces have a distinct advantage in GV quality, including use of the Tiger I and Wirbelwind. However, the availability of the Tiger is dependent upon the base - not all bases are equipped with Tigers. The Allies will have Firefly and 76mm Sherman, but will have to rely on air support to keep the German Jabos away.

Allied GVs
M4 75mm
M4 76mm (at US bases)
Firefly (at British bases)
M16
M8
M3
Jeep

Axis GVs
Tiger I (where available)
Panzer IV
Wirbelwind
Ostwind
SdKfZ 251
M8 (as a sub for German armored cars)
Kubelwagon (sub Jeep)

The key to this campaign are the strats. Although the Germans have jets, reducing their fuel factories will prevent them from flying to the front in that particular zone. Armor and aircraft must work together in order to succeed, especially since the Allies lack a definitive mobile AA vehicle.

Allies - Knights
Axis - Rooks
Neutral - Bish (do not attack A1)
Radar range = 1945
Altitude ceiling  20,000 ft
Icons are OFF
Egos are OFF
Attitudes are OFF
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: meou01 on November 24, 2010, 06:25:02 AM
whats the map?
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Dichotomy on November 24, 2010, 07:00:08 AM
JEEPS!!!! It's on boys  :lol
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 24, 2010, 08:00:09 AM
whats the map?

ooops, it's Rhinewin
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: antivortex on November 24, 2010, 08:51:23 AM
Wow, so the B-27 debuts on this rotation huh?
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 24, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
Wow, so the B-27 debuts on this rotation huh?

double oops, ignore that since it doesn't exist  :lol
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on November 24, 2010, 09:26:28 AM
looks cool
got map image? :O
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Molsman on November 24, 2010, 12:23:32 PM
Oh No Cap Will be in his glory the peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeee38 is in here lol just jealous I lawndart the thing all the time. Oh btw Cap I am in the works of making ya a custom photo from one of ur past screenied lol
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 24, 2010, 01:45:25 PM
looks cool
got map image? :O
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll149/jimsom88/gdam2.jpg)
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Mister Fork on November 24, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
 :x - Me262's and P-47M's.... and TEMPESTS!
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: 68ZooM on November 24, 2010, 02:19:19 PM
Wow, so the B-27 debuts on this rotation huh?

he meant B29  hehe  looking forward to this flying da Peeeeeee's
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 24, 2010, 02:48:45 PM
he meant B29  hehe  looking forward to this flying da Peeeeeee's
Not sure what the heck I meant, lost control of typing fingers, I guess.

B-24 in place of B-27
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: CAP1 on November 24, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
Oh No Cap Will be in his glory the peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeee38 is in here lol just jealous I lawndart the thing all the time. Oh btw Cap I am in the works of making ya a custom photo from one of ur past screenied lol

sad part is that all this pee39 flying has probably ruined me in the pee38. gonna have to consult the consortium, and beg for permission to enable the deathstar/training mode on the blenders.  :aok

and cool!! can't wait to see it!!
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: CAP1 on November 24, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
JEEPS!!!! It's on boys  :lol

jeeps and 262's......be on the look out for muppets....... :noid :neener:
Title: Some notes about this weeks setup
Post by: jimson on November 25, 2010, 09:21:01 AM
OK this is up.

Some notes:

127mph wind downdraft at 20k and above to effect a hard ceiling of 20k.

The following bases have air-spawns on the S runway

A3, A72, A73 and A28

Use these at your own risk. You are launched at 20k but with 0 airspeed and drop like a rock until you achieve enough speed to get lift, sometimes damaging your aircraft in the process.
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Dichotomy on November 25, 2010, 09:24:38 AM
Can the jeeps airspawn?    :bolt:
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 25, 2010, 09:31:12 AM
Only on Axis side as sub for Volkswaffe.
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Dichotomy on November 25, 2010, 09:36:51 AM
WOOOHOOOO ;)
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: ImADot on November 25, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
Can the jeeps airspawn?    :bolt:

Flying Jeeps...with frikkin' laser beams.   :aok
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Big Rat on November 27, 2010, 10:15:38 AM
If I can make a suggestion.  Can we move the A20's to forward bases.  Their an attack plane and a heavy fighter in a pinch.  Operating them from rear bases when you have boston's as formations would seem to be a waste.  Just a suggestion.

 :salute
BigRat

   
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: CAP1 on November 27, 2010, 10:25:03 AM
If I can make a suggestion.  Can we move the A20's to forward bases.  Their an attack plane and a heavy fighter in a pinch.  Operating them from rear bases when you have boston's as formations would seem to be a waste.  Just a suggestion.

 :salute
BigRat

   

dude.....i flew 3 sectors to get to a fight the other night......just to be able to fly my pee 38.
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: antivortex on November 27, 2010, 11:33:51 AM
And how did that go?
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: CAP1 on November 27, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
And how did that go?

i didn't. i lost pretty quickly. but then i found some low fights down near that base that lasted for about an hour or so. i have clean up crews still out there cleaning up the messes i left.  :rofl
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Shifty on November 27, 2010, 12:09:50 PM
dude.....i flew 3 sectors to get to a fight the other night......just to be able to fly my pee 38.

There are no bombers allowed at the front line bases?  ;)
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: RTR on November 27, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
I demand you remove the B27 and enable the B92.

The B27 didn't even show up until the last few months of the war and only flew in the Mexican theater in the little known Tequila raids.

RTR
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: CAP1 on November 27, 2010, 12:26:52 PM
There are no bombers allowed at the front line bases?  ;)

aha!! that's why i couldn't get my peeee38 near the front!!!   :bolt:
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Dawger on November 30, 2010, 09:03:17 AM
Why no P38L in this setup?
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 30, 2010, 09:34:27 AM
We didn't have any reference to the 8th or 9th AF using the L model in 1945.
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Dawger on November 30, 2010, 09:42:17 AM
We didn't have any reference to the 8th or 9th AF using the L model in 1945.

I can't speak to that specifically without some research but by 1945 the J's were boosted aileron versions and had the dive flaps which are the only game differences in the two models. The other differences aren't modeled in AH.
Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: jimson on November 30, 2010, 09:59:41 AM
So you are basically saying the L model is a better representation of the later J model than the J model we have in AH?

I'll kick it around a bit.



Title: Re: Week of Nov 25th
Post by: Dawger on November 30, 2010, 10:18:17 AM
So you are basically saying the L model is a better representation of the later J model than the J model we have in AH?

I'll kick it around a bit.





There is a pretty good argument that the L in AH is really a J-25-LO. The P38J-25-LO had dive flaps and boosted ailerons as well as all of the previous mods (larger internal fuel tanks due to conversion of the leading edge from engine cooling to fuel storage, chin radiators and some other stuff not modeled in AH)

The major engine difference in the L versus the J is the altitude at which the engine produces its normal rated power. The J produced 1100 HP to 27,000 feet. The L maintained 1100 to 30,000. In AH this isn't modeled. If you compare the performance charts in AH they are identical when the L should have a performance boost over the J above 27,000 feet. So the L model in AH is actually a P38J-25-LO when it comes to performance. The L model had a bunch of other differences that AH doesn't model like power plant control automation features.