Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: blazingun on November 26, 2010, 10:11:42 AM
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Being a rubbish fighter pilot, I often do the grunt work of running supplies and cargo which I enjoy. It's rather frustrating though when there is no fighter cover and are totaly at the mercy of enemy guns. How about adding the Li-2 or J-52 as a perk plane to give us a fighting chance in desperate times. Any thoughts on this?
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Well the Li-2 was pretty much the same things as a C-47 (with a few guns), but +1 on the Ju-52. I do not see a reason to perk it though, just decrease the ENY a bit.
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No.
J-52 - Is a type of turbojet engine, not an airplane. These engines were used on planes such as the A-4 Skyhawk and A-6 Intruder. The HMS Guysborough was a Bangor Class minesweeper ship that also used the J-52 tag in the Canadian Royal Navy. Again, this is not an aircraft.
Li-2 - We technically already have this in game, as it was a licensed built DC-3, which is also the C-47 in game. The only difference between the Li-2 and the C-47 in game is that it was equipped with three 7.62mm machine guns and one 12.7mm machine gun. Hardly enough to defend oneself from BnZ'ing ponies and La-7s. The Li-2 would not be perked simply because it does not have enough guns to protect itself and is way too slow to be of any sort of threat to any plane in the game.
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J-52 - Is a type of turbojet engine, not an airplane. These engines were used on planes such as the A-4 Skyhawk and A-6 Intruder. The HMS Guysborough was a Bangor Class minesweeper ship that also used the J-52 tag in the Canadian Royal Navy. Again, this is not an aircraft.
Come on really? You know what he means.
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Being a rubbish fighter pilot, I often do the grunt work of running supplies and cargo which I enjoy. It's rather frustrating though when there is no fighter cover and are totaly at the mercy of enemy guns. How about adding the Li-2 or J-52 as a perk plane to give us a fighting chance in desperate times. Any thoughts on this?
So, not only are you suggesting we trade about 60mph for a few rifle caliber machine guns, which would deter nobody, but you're saying we should pay for it too?
No thank you.
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ok plazus, you obdviously knew I meant Ju-52. Why not add a variant of the dc-3? we have many variants of fighters, some being perked for being uber. To say the firepower is not a threat shows you probably have never, or rarely fly transport. Any firepower is better than none (most of us are aware of the famous BAR kill of a Zero by a c-47 pilot). Also, the Li-2 had nearly 1300 engineering changes over the dc-3, with cruise speed being only 8mph slower than the c-47. I proposed a perk transport to liven up the job of moving mud without altering the gameplay. karnak, try running some cargo into a heavily contested base. You'd be surprised how fast the perks add up.
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blazinggun,
I would much rather have an extra 60mph rather than the three machine guns on a Ju52. 60mph faster speed means a significantly lower amount of time in enemy air space before the drop and that is far more likely to save you than a few popguns on the Ju52.
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I voted yes.
We need an axis transport for special events, and a few guns can not hurt.
But there is absolutely no reason to perk it.
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Wasn't there some sort of American super transport plane? I think it was called the commando?
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No point for a perked Li-2.
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I would love to see the Ju-52 added. As for a perked transport type, Junkers Ju 290. :devil
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Why dont we just add 12 20mm guns to the goon? yea....i like that idea the best.
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I always thought the C-46 would be cool, but i don't think it would perform any different in game then the C-47. I think the real perked transport would be the C-54 Skymaster. I'm not sure there are any other good cargo planes that were used. Was the ME323 cargo plane made in any number?
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Wasn't there some sort of American super transport plane? I think it was called the commando?
Yes there was a C-46, but there was nothing "super" about it.
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Me-323!!!!
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/me323-1.jpg)
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/me323/me323%20b26.jpg)
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Was the ME323 cargo plane made in any number?
Yes. 198 that played quite a significant role.
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Me-323!!!!
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/me323-1.jpg)
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/me323/me323%20b26.jpg)
+1 as long as HTC is not going to limit it to 10 troops.
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+1 as long as HTC is not going to limit it to 10 troops.
i swear if he says that thing only holds 10 troops, then we have a problem, what do they each have? their on tank?!?!?!?
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Me-323!!!!
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/me323-1.jpg)
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/me323/me323%20b26.jpg)
If we can stick the gun out the front during flight, I'm all for it! :x
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If you really want perked transports how about:
C54 (DC4), 275 mph, 21,000 lbs (say 3 airfield supply boxes)
C69 (Lockheed Constellation), 340 mph, 50,000? lbs (say 6 airfield supply boxes)
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C47 (DC3), 220 mph, 6,000 lbs (one airfield supply box)
The C69 was used in WWII in very small numbers at the very end of the war. But it looks so cool :aok
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aahh yeah...maybe the SM-82 which can transport and bomb
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aahh yeah...maybe the SM-82 which can transport and bomb
that and the Ju-52 would fill a few axis holes for scenarios etc. and you can give a nasty pilot wound with those riffle caliber guns.
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Why can't we just shove a few bloody paratroopers in the bomb bay of a B-25H, tell them to STFU, and drop them over the target?
Just call it 'field modifications' and 'perked ordnance' and we'll be ready to go, no wishlist-work required.
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Why can't we just shove a few bloody paratroopers in the bomb bay of a B-25H, tell them to STFU, and drop them over the target?
Just call it 'field modifications' and 'perked ordnance' and we'll be ready to go, no wishlist-work required.
:headscratch: :aok :bolt:
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Yes. 198 that played quite a significant role.
Far less survivable in the MAs than it would have been in real life though.
ack-ack
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Why can't we just shove a few bloody paratroopers in the bomb bay of a B-25H, tell them to STFU, and drop them over the target?
plenty of mitchells used as transports (though mostly for top brass), not sure if they were armed at all. :headscratch:
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(sitting in my pony drooling) YES YES YES I LIKE THEM ALL!
Seriously though? WTF NOT? the me323 was capable of carrying vehicles. That would make for some pretty cool missions. A whole platoon of M8s delivered behind enemy lines or a base otherwise unreachable by GV.
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(sitting in my pony drooling) YES YES YES I LIKE THEM ALL!
Seriously though? WTF NOT? the me323 was capable of carrying vehicles. That would make for some pretty cool missions. A whole platoon of M8s delivered behind enemy lines or a base otherwise unreachable by GV.
Now THAT...would be AWESOME! :rock *drools*
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(sitting in my pony drooling) YES YES YES I LIKE THEM ALL!
Seriously though? WTF NOT? the me323 was capable of carrying vehicles. That would make for some pretty cool missions. A whole platoon of M8s delivered behind enemy lines or a base otherwise unreachable by GV.
Do you really think a Me 323 would even survive long enough to fly to any base in AH? All it would be is a big juicy target and free perk points for whoever shoots it down. Do you know why the Germans eventually had to phase out the Me 323 during the war? It wasn't because of production issues or anything like that, it was because they were all destroyed by enemy fire.
ack-ack
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Ohh nooozzz lets not add any plane because there is a chance it will get shot down in the MA. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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ME-323!
My idea would be that it allows for a set vehicle spawn rate, make it a spawn point for a limit of say 5 vehicles of all types. Or containing say 30 troops.
Could you imagine it, flights of fighters escorting, albiet a perked, UBER GOON! :aok
oh and, I would love to have a goon that shoots back, anything will do me, an LI-2 and a JU-52, both would suit me :D