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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: fbWldcat on November 26, 2010, 11:01:41 PM
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First off, any hijacking with the term "M-18" and I shall smite thee. (BAR321 that includes YOU :devil). Any other tank (so long as it is Japanese, should be fine).
Type 1 "Chi-He." Japanese medium tank which saw action in the late war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Chi-He (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Chi-He) (Yes, Wiki, although I normally hate it, the info seems accurate enough).
http://www.tanksinworldwar2.com/japan-type-1-chi-he.php (http://www.tanksinworldwar2.com/japan-type-1-chi-he.php)
Stats Number produced: 170; Produced: 1943-44;Length: 5.7m/ 18.76ft; Hull Width: 2.3m/ 7.66ft; Height: 2.4m/ 7.83ft; Crew: 5 – driver, bow gunner, commander, gun-layer and loader;Weight: 17.2 tonnes; Engine: 240 metric hp Type 100 diesel;Max Speed: 44kph/ 27.3mph; Max Range: 210km;Main Gun: 47mm Type 1 L/48; Machine guns: Two 7.7mm Type 97 machine guns, one in turret, one in hull front.
Type 97 "Te-Ke" Tankette (Aside from less armor, not much is different from the M8 which we already have. It was a quick, light hitting tank).
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_type_97_tankette.html (http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_type_97_tankette.html)
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tankettes/type-97-te-ke.asp (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/japan/tankettes/type-97-te-ke.asp)
A long shot, I know, but I could go out tank busting with this zippy little guy :aok
Heck, that's all for now, but I'll leave you with this wonderful site.
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-tank.html (http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-tank.html)
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:confused:
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:noid m 18 :noid :bolt:
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What is :confused: for?
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You people really can't quit posting about the M-18, can you? It is funny when 321BAR does it, stop.
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You people really can't quit posting about the M-18, can you? It is funny when 321BAR does it, stop.
Correction, it WAS funny when he first started doing it. Now it seems impossible for him to create a well-structured, postive contribution
to a wishlist thread.
As for the OP, I don't think we need any Japanese tanks. I think they would have been feared more to infantry (if they were ever
encountered) than by other tankers. This game doesn't have infantry, and probably won't for a very, very long time. I think we'd
be better off with other tanks first.
My .02 of a penny's worth.
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read rule #3...already have a jap tank thread buddy :lol
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You people really can't quit posting about the M-18, can you? It is funny when 321BAR does it, stop.
I can quit posting about the M18
SU-85 :noid :D
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well im interested in seeing light tank battles
such as
s0viet export (to china) T-26 vs some chingchang tanks
(http://misc.kitreview.com/armourreviews/images/um361reviewgp_box.jpg)
:aok
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:noid
Type 97 TE-KE
Armament: one 37mm gun, on 7.7mm machine gun
Crew: two
Length: 12.1ft (3.7m)
Width: 5.9ft (1.8m)
Height: 5.9ft (1.8m)
Armour: .15in-.62in (4-16mm)
Engine: 65bhp petrol
Range: 155miles (250killometers)
Speed: 25mph (40km/h)
(http://www.freewebs.com/whitect321/side.jpg)
Looks hot ^^^
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Until you run across the guy with a screwdriver poking holes in it :lol
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(http://www.freewebs.com/whitect321/side.jpg)
Looks hot ^^^
It will when someone comes along with a BB gun and a zippo and lights that tin can up. :neener:
:cheers:
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Type 97 TE-KE
+1 to this ^^^^
Anyother jap tank sucks..........
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read rule #3...already have a jap tank thread buddy :lol
Thank you for pointing out the obvious. That thread obviously didn't go over too well... Troll?
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YES cardboard box tank :D
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Most of these light tanks and tankettes that the Japanese used had more speed and about the same arament as the M8. A 37mm AP round on a zippy little contraption. I've yet to be in an M8 which lasted more than one AP shot. Give it a try, fellas :devil
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read rule #3...already have a jap tank thread buddy :lol
You should read the rule about backseat moderation...
ack-ack
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Most of these light tanks and tankettes that the Japanese used had more speed and about the same arament as the M8. A 37mm AP round on a zippy little contraption. I've yet to be in an M8 which lasted more than one AP shot. Give it a try, fellas :devil
The 37mm guns (Type 1 and Type 94) were not as capable as the 37mm M6 mounted on our M8, so saying they have the same armament is incorrect.
And I have no idea how you could come up with the notion that any of these tanks approached 50mph?
Think an M8 with a nerfed gun and limited to second gear, and you might have an idea how a type 97 Te-Ke would perform in-game.
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+1. I would love to see Japanese armor represented in the game. :aok
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Most of these light tanks and tankettes that the Japanese used had more speed and about the same arament as the M8. A 37mm AP round on a zippy little contraption. I've yet to be in an M8 which lasted more than one AP shot. Give it a try, fellas :devil
The guns for the most part used by the Japanese on their tanks were pretty crappy. I think the most successful main gun they used was the 47mm and that wasn't very effective. The problem with the Japanese when they made their tanks is that they did not expect a general war with anyone but rather limited engagements like they were undergoing with China and border clashes with the Soviets. As such, they felt that they weren't likely to face anything larger than a light tank and didn't need to make anything larger or larger guns. They felt that the 47mm was more than enough because it was easily able to penetrate their tanks and as such, used their light tanks as the benchmark for how effective the guns should be.
Successes during the invasion of Malaya and the Philippines further reinforced the Japanese belief in their doctrine that they didn't need anything larger. In addition, priorities also shifted towards aircraft and warship production which limited the amount of steel that could be used to build larger tanks. That's why most of the larger tanks were only produced as prototypes or in very small numbers.
ack-ack
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The guns for the most part used by the Japanese on their tanks were pretty crappy. I think the most successful main gun they used was the 47mm and that wasn't very effective. The problem with the Japanese when they made their tanks is that they did not expect a general war with anyone but rather limited engagements like they were undergoing with China and border clashes with the Soviets. As such, they felt that they weren't likely to face anything larger than a light tank and didn't need to make anything larger or larger guns. They felt that the 47mm was more than enough because it was easily able to penetrate their tanks and as such, used their light tanks as the benchmark for how effective the guns should be.
Successes during the invasion of Malaya and the Philippines further reinforced the Japanese belief in their doctrine that they didn't need anything larger. In addition, priorities also shifted towards aircraft and warship production which limited the amount of steel that could be used to build larger tanks. That's why most of the larger tanks were only produced as prototypes or in very small numbers.
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The 37mm guns (Type 1 and Type 94) were not as capable as the 37mm M6 mounted on our M8, so saying they have the same armament is incorrect.
Well said, Ack-Ack, but even though the Japanese tanks/tankettes were inferior, they still saw action and may be up for recognition in the game. Although not as effective as other tanks from the war, they would stand to add to the diversity of play.
As for the second quote, I never said their arament was exactly the same, they were similar at best and nowhere did I say the Japanese 37mm and the American 37mm were congruent, you said that yourself. Tankettes from Japan could go roughly 30 mph (rounded as a conversion from 45 km/h). Who is to say the Japanese tanks need that much armor? The M3 and Sd.Kfz 251 can be pierced by multiple AP rounds before blowing up, and HE rounds are more effective. Think about other planes in the game, is the I-16 a game-changer? How about the M-16 or the aforementioned Sd.Kfz 251? These craft and vehicles add a diversity to the game that would be very limited had there been no switch from the big-names from the war. That's just my $.02 of a retort.