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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: captain1ma on November 28, 2010, 01:03:33 PM
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there seems to be alot of negative bantor on channel 1 lately. we would like to get peoples opinions on something.
would you like the AVA staff to continue to police the text buffer in the AVA, or would you like us to shut off channel 1?
tell us what you think and how you feel. thanks!
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there seems to be alot of negative bantor on channel 1 lately. we would like to get peoples opinions on something.
would you like the AVA staff to continue to police the text buffer in the AVA, or would you like us to shut off channel 1?
tell us what you think and how you feel. thanks!
i hate to say this, 'cause it makes more work for you guys........
i think that channel 1 should remain open. outside of the negative banter, there is a LOT of friendly, and fun chat going on between multiple pile-its from both sides.
we have a somewhat unique playground within this big playground. it doesn't mean we're any better or any worse or "elite" compared to the rest.....we're just unique, and different. this is a lot of the attraction here.
in general, we're a bit more mature(or at least some of us fake it :D ) than a lot of the ma type stuff, in that we fight for the fun, be it furballing, 1-1, 2-2, or a coordinated base take(WTG on that last night bigrat).
we also have zero problems on channel 1 for 99% of the time. if we close that channel, then those causing the negative banter have already won, and we've then taken a step in the direction they wish to see us travel.
sometimes we police it ourselves, by simply not responding to the negativity, sometimes we let ourselves get drawn up into it........but i think we need to leave it open.
a couple of suggestions to deal with the problems you're referencing:
1) film EVERYTHING. if you don;t have film running, then use the "alt s" to take a screen shot of whatever is being said.
2) simply do not respond. sounds silly, and often times in real life, this doesn't work....but here, it works perfectly.(i broke my own rule last night, but managed to control myself and stop)
3) if something/someone pisses you off due to things that have been previously discussed.....do something different. i think it was aabite? that was getting pissed. i mentioned to him that he should take a plane, inverted, fly between the trees, and then through a hangar. i think that broke his bad mood, although i think he was smarter than to try something that dumb. :devil
4) often times there are tactics being used that we don't care for. the simple answer here, is to defeat those tactics with superior tactics.
example: 2 thursday night, there was a 262 flying high, practicing bnz, and picking. crazy8s and i got alt, and tag-teamed him. at that point, he could not chance a bnz with 2 enemies in the area, up high where he would have no e to maneuver with. each time he went for one of us, the other was setting up for a possible shot....we never got it, but he eventually left the area to rtb.
anyway....sorry for the ramble..........
and thanks again for all of the hard work you guys do in there. <<S>>
BTW.....the haze up high was friggin marvelous!!
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1 should stay, it's fun to talk to the guys on the other side. One warning per night on the buffer should be enough, if the said person does something negative again that night then text ban. Punish the abusers not the people who use it properly.
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BigRat
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1 should stay, it's fun to talk to the guys on the other side. One warning per night on the buffer should be enough, if the said person does something negative again that night then text ban. Punish the abusers not the people who use it properly.
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BigRat
+1 one warning and a 24hour text ban, but they should still use country VOX because that would really make it hard to even fly without not being able to communicate with fellow team members, i like being able to chat with the other side after a good fight
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there seems to be alot of negative bantor on channel 1 lately. we would like to get peoples opinions on something.
would you like the AVA staff to continue to police the text buffer in the AVA, or would you like us to shut off channel 1?
tell us what you think and how you feel. thanks!
Punish the abusers and leave it up for those who can be civil and respectful of others.
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My personal opinion is to shut it off. I haven't been in the AvA lately so this isn't a reaction to the current situation.
That gives the players the most choice in the matter.
Channel 200 is still available and they are few new (to Aces High) flying in AVA so everyone knows about 200. Those who want it can tune it and those that don't want it can de-tune.
Having volunteers (not HTC employees) police the channel just to keep it open isn't fair to the volunteers and is likely to create problems.
Squelch would be another viable solution but there is no way to make a permanent squelch list. I would favor squelch if we had that option.
Before AvA was no icon, my squad would go in and get non-stop abuse from a small group of players because we were flying as a team of four to six. The inability to shut it off and HTC's refusal to act on it (yes I sent the film to Skuzzy) was the deciding factor in us leaving the AvA and I actually closed my account for 6 months. It wasn't closed because of this but it made it easier.
I reopened my account because the AvA is no icon but the fire to fly is pretty much gone and the squadron is very low attendance. I love the AvA when I get in there and can fly the p38 but I know not being able to shut off the annoying children would result in me logging off instead of hanging around.
I hate that a few people are able to cause this much consternation. I'm sure they love the attention they are getting on the BBS.
We are feeding the trolls.
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Leave Ch1 on; people need to learn to turn off their attitudes instead.
If they just can't learn, then chat ban them...I don't care who it is; just make sure it's justified.
If chat-banned still feel the need to send nasty PM's, then they get ejected from the arena.
I can't understand why it's so hard for people to just play the game without being total a-holes.
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Leave Ch1 on; people need to learn to turn off their attitudes instead.
If they just can't learn, then chat ban them...I don't care who it is; just make sure it's justified.
If chat-banned still feel the need to send nasty PM's, then they get ejected from the arena.
I can't understand why it's so hard for people to just play the game without being total a-holes.
compensating.
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Leave Ch1 on; people need to learn to turn off their attitudes instead.
If they just can't learn, then chat ban them...I don't care who it is; just make sure it's justified.
If chat-banned still feel the need to send nasty PM's, then they get ejected from the arena.
I can't understand why it's so hard for people to just play the game without being total a-holes.
Because they've never been good at being orifices and are trying to learn? If I want to be I'm a top notch one. I just don't see the point in being one anymore. Much better to have fun, laugh, enjoy the company of others, do what you can for the people around you, and on occasion blast them out of the sky or watch them spiral down into a smoking crater. Much MUCH better than being a jerk IMHO. And NO I DO NOT WANT TO HOLD HANDS AND SING KUM BY YAH.. But i'll drink a beer with any of yall. If you don't drink alcohol tea is fine or Gatorade.. *shrug* whatever. :D
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Why is anyone allowing real life social rejects to get to them? You're dealing with people who in real life have no social life, low self esteem and could not muster the testicular fortitude to talk the trash in your face. They are in fact so pathetic the only real physical interaction they get is with their hands, and that's only when their hands feel like it.
Learn to laugh at the feeble minds that need to use juvenile behavior in cyberspace to feel masculine. People like that are easy to ignore, but you have to put your own ego aside to do it.
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Don't hold back gyrene...tell us how you really feel. :lol
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Why is anyone allowing real life social rejects to get to them? You're dealing with people who in real life have no social life, low self esteem and could not muster the testicular fortitude to talk the trash in your face. They are in fact so pathetic the only real physical interaction they get is with their hands, and that's only when their hands feel like it.
Learn to laugh at the feeble minds that need to use juvenile behavior in cyberspace to feel masculine. People like that are easy to ignore, but you have to put your own ego aside to do it.
yep.
fly something really hard to fight in. you're ego will dissappear real quick. :noid :neener: :bolt:
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Why is anyone allowing real life social rejects to get to them? You're dealing with people who in real life have no social life, low self esteem and could not muster the testicular fortitude to talk the trash in your face. They are in fact so pathetic the only real physical interaction they get is with their hands, and that's only when their hands feel like it.
Learn to laugh at the feeble minds that need to use juvenile behavior in cyberspace to feel masculine. People like that are easy to ignore, but you have to put your own ego aside to do it.
What ever you need to tell yourself to sleep better at night, you are so far off base it isn't even funny.
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What ever you need to tell yourself to sleep better at night, you are so far off base it isn't even funny.
Oh really? Please enlighten me then. Contrary to your personal needs and desires, nothing in AH is important enough to me to lose a wink of sleep so it's very easy for me to view the feeble minded social rejects who seem to think any accomplishments within this cyberworld are worthy of a single iota of acknowledgement outside of a virtual high five, as humorous. I'm guessing by your post that you're one of the feeble minded individuals I view with humor and it upsets you.
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Nope
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ill squelch them no matter what channel you put them on :D
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The few times I've actually gone into AvA, I saw some folks complaining about something and/or bickering. Last time I was in there (which was just under 3 months ago), it was implied that I was hacking when an M475's rounds bounced off my Panzer's front armor, then got wasted when I 1 shot him to his R Flank (direct hit off his 2:30). Coupled with a stupid purse fight over a HO shot and the bickering that was taking place the last couple of times I was in there, yeah... Haven't been to the AvA since. I've popped in to see what setup was going on and to see if there was a new map, but that's it. Log right back out. Since I can't turn off Ch 1, I don't see a point in going there.
I'd vote, Turn off Ch 1. Why should you police the channel? You already devote your time in setting up and running AvA, but having to baby sit channel 1 as well? Up for 5 mins, police channel 1. Get into a good fight, big arse purse fight breaks out on channel 1 over a pick... You have to bail, auger, get shot down, fly in a circle or RTB. Either way, your fights has to end at that moment so you can police the channel. Unless you are being paid by HTC or you physically own that server the AvA runs off of, bad deal. Save yourself a headache. 200 will suffice for inter-country communications. Or at the very least, change it to where I can turn off Ch 1 if that is possible. If someone wants to say something to me, they can 1) Try 200 (which I HIGHLY doubt I will have tuned), 2) PM me or 3) Switch sides. Squelching is not an option really, as it isn't permanent...
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gyrene's posts here are an excellent example of why you should turn off channel 1.
He feels it is his place to ridicule the idea that other people may not want to see a constant stream of juvenile behavior and he continues to demonstrate the inability to respect the wishes of others in his exchange with antivortex.
Even if the behavior is not directed at an individual personally it can still detract from enjoyment of the game.
Some folks like to fly the game with 200 tuned and enjoy the banter. Others do not enjoy it and they detune 200.
The biggest reason to kill channel 1 is to expand the audience of the AvA.
And before some wiseacre chimes in, no that doesn't mean we have to cater to every whim. In this instance there is a perfectly suitable alternative to channel 1 that keeps everyone happy EXCEPT the people who want a captive audience.
By keeping channel 1 you are feeding the troll by providing a captive audience.
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Why is anyone allowing real life social rejects to get to them? You're dealing with people who in real life have no social life, low self esteem and could not muster the testicular fortitude to talk the trash in your face. They are in fact so pathetic the only real physical interaction they get is with their hands, and that's only when their hands feel like it.
Learn to laugh at the feeble minds that need to use juvenile behavior in cyberspace to feel masculine. People like that are easy to ignore, but you have to put your own ego aside to do it.
so the triplets killed you alot too! i sense your frustration.
leave channel 1 open, let the CM's do what they must to control it. its good to be able to talk to the other side, even if i dont! alot of people like to talk to each other. its part of the game.
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gyrene's posts here are an excellent example of why you should turn off channel 1.
He feels it is his place to ridicule the idea that other people may not want to see a constant stream of juvenile behavior and he continues to demonstrate the inability to respect the wishes of others in his exchange with antivortex.
Even if the behavior is not directed at an individual personally it can still detract from enjoyment of the game.
Some folks like to fly the game with 200 tuned and enjoy the banter. Others do not enjoy it and they detune 200.
The biggest reason to kill channel 1 is to expand the audience of the AvA.
And before some wiseacre chimes in, no that doesn't mean we have to cater to every whim. In this instance there is a perfectly suitable alternative to channel 1 that keeps everyone happy EXCEPT the people who want a captive audience.
By keeping channel 1 you are feeding the troll by providing a captive audience.
if we were to eliminate ch1, then we could tune to 200 to chat amongst ourselves, as you've mentioned. the problem being, that so will those that wish to grief. now, we have to de-tune 200 in order to not see their poop, and STILL cannot easily chat with those we wish across chess piece lines.
no......we simply need to stop feeding them, they get quiet when they get kilt....they get quiet when no one responds......
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Its a 2 sided coin. We are all talking about the same few individuals so just squelch them for now and see how that goes. Bigrat and I laughed about it last night, they started in on me and I squelched them one at a time.
Volron, you should come back and give it a try again. Aside from a few (3) trouble makers AvA has turned into a great place to play. Its truley the only reason im still playing the game.
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Its a 2 sided coin. We are all talking about the same few individuals so just squelch them for now and see how that goes. Bigrat and I laughed about it last night, they started in on me and I squelched them one at a time.
Volron, you should come back and give it a try again. Aside from a few (3) trouble makers AvA has turned into a great place to play. Its truley the only reason im still playing the game.
i wish i could've gotten on last night.....but i had to work at my part time job.....didn't get home till 1230am, made a couple quick posts, and went to bed........tonight i gotta go straight from here to that job to finish what we didn't get done last night...probably another midnight finish.......
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YUCK well i installed a cap proof net connection over the holiday weekend so whenever your ready to lose more parts ill be waiting.... :devil
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You people make me laugh. "The Triplets"... :rofl
They treat me with respect because I've been giving them the same. It's clear to me that many of you are either unable or unwilling to stop slinging crap; so why would you expect others to stop flinging it back at you?
Also, if "The Triplets" actually do stop in here to read messages: perhaps you guys could be the bigger men and take some crap without slinging it back. Perhaps then these habitual crap-flinging juveniles will stop it themselves.
This is a perpetual self-powered crap-fest that can only be fixed by the players - not the game, not the arena admins, not HTC.
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I stopped my in game crap slinging a long time ago, i just squelch them. I dont squelch them until they give me a reason, usually right after I shoot them down for the first time :-) I havnt said a word back, i just laugh and hit the button. If they do read the boards at least I know im not the only one slinging it so to speak and if they still choose to point me out then im fine with it.
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If Channel 1 is turned off, wont the crap just go over to 200??? The attitudes are the problem not the channel. I realize that Channel 1 is a "perk" in the AvA, and I enjoy friendly banter across country. I have also used it to <Salute> others for good fights and such or even if I was caught napping. The DA has Channel 1 turned on and it is always used to squeak and whine and gets downright nasty at times.
Lets turn of the attitudes, not Channel 1
Just my $.02
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Carver
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You people make me laugh. "The Triplets"... :rofl
They treat me with respect because I've been giving them the same. It's clear to me that many of you are either unable or unwilling to stop slinging crap; so why would you expect others to stop flinging it back at you?
Also, if "The Triplets" actually do stop in here to read messages: perhaps you guys could be the bigger men and take some crap without slinging it back. Perhaps then these habitual crap-flinging juveniles will stop it themselves.
This is a perpetual self-powered crap-fest that can only be fixed by the players - not the game, not the arena admins, not HTC.
just an fyi, and not trying to be a wise ass, as we always get along, and have good fun fights......but ya, they DO sling their crap without reason. i was on the receiving end of it sat. night, and have it on film.
i responded politly, not by slinging crap back at him, and it continued, so i just stopped responding.
i think it may have had somethign to do with me bnz'ing a certain jet that was bnz'ing. :devil
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If Channel 1 is turned off, wont the crap just go over to 200??? The attitudes are the problem not the channel. I realize that Channel 1 is a "perk" in the AvA, and I enjoy friendly banter across country. I have also used it to <Salute> others for good fights and such or even if I was caught napping. The DA has Channel 1 turned on and it is always used to squeak and whine and gets downright nasty at times.
Lets turn of the attitudes, not Channel 1
Just my $.02
<S>
Carver
how come i never catch you sleeping dammit?? :rofl
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The problem is the 3 that are the focus of this have no intention on changing their attitudes, they have made that very clear.
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I was actually on the receiving end last night also after a 3v1 against them and another player new to the arena. 2 110's and a 109, I was in the jug in a low turn fight with it and was holding my own til I got hoed or it seemed to be a hoe but wont be able to tell until i replay film, it started i finished by saying it was fun and went back to my crashing and dying routine. I just play my game and that is it. I enjoy Ava to much now just tryign to get my squad in here for a nite.
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sorry about the failed escort attempt last night. I tried to stay with you but Dot just wouldnt leave me alone!
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My squad was in last night. I had a good time as usual but the sandman got me.
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Keep one open. :aok
No need to lose it due to dishonorable text or actions.
Simply punish the offenders as needed. :devil
So far its been working since the law has cracked down. :rock
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sorry about the failed escort attempt last night. I tried to stay with you but Dot just wouldnt leave me alone!
No worries Grumpy I was actually reffering to a different event after the 17 attempt I ended up taking 2 of the bandits down last night but never made it home but it was all in fun then.
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No worries Grumpy I was actually reffering to a different event after the 17 attempt I ended up taking 2 of the bandits down last night but never made it home but it was all in fun then.
lol ya you pinged my 262 a few times, i just can't seem to slow down enough to land when i play rocketman ( i suck in them planes) :rofl i thought i was slow enough just under 200 then front gear went poop and i was runway rash was a fun fight thou i think i got 1 of your 17's and a low treetop mossie (can't remember his name) before my suicidal landing
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From my (relatively new in the AvA) perspective - keep channel 1, address any problems with those causing it. Despite my SA sucking worse than a 2 bit ho, my inability to shoot straight, lack of knowledge of acm etc every time I fly in the AvA arena, I have fun. Fun for me being in an unfamiliar plane (like the restricted plane set idea btw), fighting planes that are actually going to fight (no ho n run that I've seen thus far).
Wurzel
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lol ya you pinged my 262 a few times, i just can't seem to slow down enough to land when i play rocketman ( i suck in them planes) :rofl i thought i was slow enough just under 200 then front gear went poop and i was runway rash was a fun fight thou i think i got 1 of your 17's and a low treetop mossie (can't remember his name) before my suicidal landing
i think that those things had nose gear problems in real life.....the nosewheel was an afterthought. the original 262 was a tail dragger.
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just an fyi, and not trying to be a wise ass, as we always get along, and have good fun fights......but ya, they DO sling their crap without reason. i was on the receiving end of it sat. night, and have it on film.
i responded politly, not by slinging crap back at him, and it continued, so i just stopped responding.
i think it may have had somethign to do with me bnz'ing a certain jet that was bnz'ing. :devil
You must of been being a jerk CAP. ImaDot is right, they are really great guys when you are all sweet to them. The only reason they behave the way they do is all our fault. Heck we even were such jerks we got them muted.
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lol ya you pinged my 262 a few times, i just can't seem to slow down enough to land when i play rocketman ( i suck in them planes) :rofl i thought i was slow enough just under 200 then front gear went poop and i was runway rash was a fun fight thou i think i got 1 of your 17's and a low treetop mossie (can't remember his name) before my suicidal landing
Lol your correct Urself you did take one of them down my last one just had a hell of the time keeping ya in my sites I must of jumped to external views numerous times, I know the initial contact I first got was from a 109 then the followed by 2 jets, 109 went down in smoke but still alive , think I pinged the other 262 bad enough he broke off then you were the last one I encountered
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Crazy8s
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just an fyi, and not trying to be a wise ass, as we always get along, and have good fun fights......but ya, they DO sling their crap without reason. i was on the receiving end of it sat. night, and have it on film.
i responded politly, not by slinging crap back at him, and it continued, so i just stopped responding.
i think it may have had somethign to do with me bnz'ing a certain jet that was bnz'ing. :devil
Fair enough...I'm just reporting what happens to me when I'm there.
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Lol your correct Urself you did take one of them down my last one just had a hell of the time keeping ya in my sites I must of jumped to external views numerous times, I know the initial contact I first got was from a 109 then the followed by 2 jets, 109 went down in smoke but still alive , think I pinged the other 262 bad enough he broke off then you were the last one I encountered
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Crazy8s
hehe yea i wasnt worried about dying to ya <S> heck planes are free that's the only reason i was flying them rockets, i lawndart landings everytime lmao
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if we were to eliminate ch1, then we could tune to 200 to chat amongst ourselves, as you've mentioned. the problem being, that so will those that wish to grief. now, we have to de-tune 200 in order to not see their poop, and STILL cannot easily chat with those we wish across chess piece lines.
no......we simply need to stop feeding them, they get quiet when they get kilt....they get quiet when no one responds......
With channel 1 on there is no choice in the matter. Everyone HAS to see it.
And for the record, I'm not talking about the annoying posts only. Some people don't like to see cross country banter of any sort in historical arenas. I'm not one of them. I'm more one of those who likes common channels and I enjoy whipping Larry in a 1 v 1 and then destroying his 3rd grade logic on the text buffer.
But that doesn't mean forcing people to watch it is the right move for the arena.
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gyrene's posts here are an excellent example of why you should turn off channel 1.
He feels it is his place to ridicule the idea that other people may not want to see a constant stream of juvenile behavior and he continues to demonstrate the inability to respect the wishes of others in his exchange with antivortex.
Uhhh excuse me? Talk about being way off base. I speak my mind without regard to yours or anyone else's opinions. If my words and my opinions bother you, tough.
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With channel 1 on there is no choice in the matter. Everyone HAS to see it.
And for the record, I'm not talking about the annoying posts only. Some people don't like to see cross country banter of any sort in historical arenas. I'm not one of them. I'm more one of those who likes common channels and I enjoy whipping Larry in a 1 v 1 and then destroying his 3rd grade logic on the text buffer.
But that doesn't mean forcing people to watch it is the right move for the arena.
ok....i hadn't thought about that part of it. :aok
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People do seem to want to keep it on, so I'm thinking strict moderation of channel 1.
No banter, insults, taunting, "calling out" of players or complaining about other players tolerated.
Anyone violating this is told to take it somewhere else that is hidden from the public or can be detuned by others who want no part of it.
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Cap1 -
Sorry if I came off as being mad. If you know me, you know that I never get mad and post to anyone. It was banter just for fun. I really like flying in AvA and respect all who fly there. I don't tune into 200 in the MA just for that reason. When there is 8 - 15 people in the arena it is a more friendly atmosphere and a little kidding adds some spice. :x I also get tired of the junk that is posted on 200 and do not want that in AvA. But I feel that all that are in there can police that arena and squelch anyone that gets out of control. I play for fun, and am to darn old to be hacked off by anything somebody does. I just go somewhere else. (But you should hear me on VOX to squadies!!!!) Besides we AA's don't get mad, we get even :devil
Unless it is Grizz, Del or a number of other guys that would just love for us to try. Then I just take my C205 and go home :cry
Again sorry for the confusion. Love the area and all who play the game. :salute
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:salute
Well spoken.
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Cap1 -
Sorry if I came off as being mad. If you know me, you know that I never get mad and post to anyone. It was banter just for fun. I really like flying in AvA and respect all who fly there. I don't tune into 200 in the MA just for that reason. When there is 8 - 15 people in the arena it is a more friendly atmosphere and a little kidding adds some spice. :x I also get tired of the junk that is posted on 200 and do not want that in AvA. But I feel that all that are in there can police that arena and squelch anyone that gets out of control. I play for fun, and am to darn old to be hacked off by anything somebody does. I just go somewhere else. (But you should hear me on VOX to squadies!!!!) Besides we AA's don't get mad, we get even :devil
Unless it is Grizz, Del or a number of other guys that would just love for us to try. Then I just take my C205 and go home :cry
Again sorry for the confusion. Love the area and all who play the game. :salute
so what yer sayin, is that yr an old fart? :noid :neener:
seriously...i didn't think ya were mad, but rather i was fraid you may have taken a bad impression of what is normally such a fun arena.
i hope to be able to fly with/against ya some more, along with aajagr, and the rest of your sqaud. :aok
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:salute Uhm... Does the "Ignore" button not work any more?
Just saying, is all.
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People do seem to want to keep it on, so I'm thinking strict moderation of channel 1.
No banter, insults, taunting, "calling out" of players or complaining about other players tolerated.
Anyone violating this is told to take it somewhere else that is hidden from the public or can be detuned by others who want no part of it.
So...where can we download the PDF guide to acceptable discourse for AvA channel 1?
I say this because I don't think you really mean what you posted.
ban·ter
–noun
1.
an exchange of light, playful, teasing remarks; good-natured raillery.
–verb (used with object)
2.
to address with banter; chaff.
–verb (used without object)
3.
to use banter.
I don't quite understand the point of leaving channel 1 on if it is going to be the equivalent of NPR on a Sunday morning.
And if your response is to tell the violators to take it to another channel it seems much simpler to just start there and avoid the policing thing altogether.
If you are going to leave channel 1 on put some teeth in your response. Violators should be chat banned for 3 weeks for every offense.
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So...where can we download the PDF guide to acceptable discourse for AvA channel 1?
I say this because I don't think you really mean what you posted.
ban·ter
–noun
1.
an exchange of light, playful, teasing remarks; good-natured raillery.
–verb (used with object)
2.
to address with banter; chaff.
–verb (used without object)
3.
to use banter.
I don't quite understand the point of leaving channel 1 on if it is going to be the equivalent of NPR on a Sunday morning.
And if your response is to tell the violators to take it to another channel it seems much simpler to just start there and avoid the policing thing altogether.
If you are going to leave channel 1 on put some teeth in your response. Violators should be chat banned for 3 weeks for every offense.
it's pretty simple.....
"c'mon back and fight you friggin runtard!!" ====warning #1
"is vulching the only way you can get a kill?" ======chat ban(time determined by whomever did it)
any pm's directed in that manner to anyone = ejected from the arena for the night(if our admins have that power)
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That's the whole problem Dawger, everything is subjective. At what point does banter become bullying?
So you disable 1 and anyone wishing to give salutes or engage in "friendly" banter has to tune 200 and be subject to running crapstorms. Fine with me, I rarely do anything that warrants a salute anyway.
Whole thing would be a lot easier if we could mute someone from channel 1 only, however, it's across the board.
You get muted from country and range as well.
That's a pretty big nuke to stop an argument.
But if they are told to take it "outside", at least no one is forced to read it.
If they have that option and still insist on subjecting a captive audience to that crap, I feel a lot more comfortable in nuking them then.
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.s works for salutes no matter what...............
I'm not going to argue anymore. It won't be me having to do the policing.
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Well, I didn't consider it arguing, just exchanging opinions.
yes .s works, but sometimes I don't have time to type .s superbluemeanie1474, but can type <S> super, and say "nice rope" or something.
If we felt we had a good answer, Jaeger wouldn't have asked for input.
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Well, I didn't consider it arguing, just exchanging opinions.
yes .s works, but sometimes I don't have time to type .s superbluemeanie1474, but can type <S> super, and say "nice rope" or something.
If we felt we had a good answer, Jaeger wouldn't have asked for input.
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Not argue as in what one does with the wife but more argue as in presenting the case for a viewpoint.
If you guys are going to have the ability to actually enforce the rules then policing might work but I get the feeling you are going to be more UN peacekeepers than US Marines when it comes to the ability to swing a big stick at the offenders.
Sure wish I had the time and desire to get back to flying in AH.
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*strikes texting 'meaniepoopiehead' .. got it :D
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Squelch has seriously become my best friend. It makes me smile every time I shoot one of them down or they shoot me down cause i know either way they are going off on the text buffer and I cant even see what they are saying lol. Everyone should try it, you might like it! I also got over their type of play. The only time it gets me irritated is when they but into a good 1v1 and pick me off. I dont count their kills on me as deaths nor do i really count my kills on them cause its usually a ho with 50/50 odds. Ive had some great fights the last few days with Dot and oldman. remembering those times are what keep me coming back.
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Squelch has seriously become my best friend. It makes me smile every time I shoot one of them down or they shoot me down cause i know either way they are going off on the text buffer and I cant even see what they are saying lol. Everyone should try it, you might like it! I also got over their type of play. The only time it gets me irritated is when they but into a good 1v1 and pick me off. I dont count their kills on me as deaths nor do i really count my kills on them cause its usually a ho with 50/50 odds. Ive had some great fights the last few days with Dot and oldman. remembering those times are what keep me coming back.
just beware dot if they ever give him his spit1 o deth........
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just beware dot if they ever give him his Hurri-1 o deth........
Fixed for accuracy. :D
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Fixed for accuracy. :D
:rofl :rofl :aok
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lol please stop I am having flashbacks from the Air Warrior Days of when I had to baby sit all the arenas and play Chat Police. Granted they usually got the hint after a 48 hr ban they were usually pretty good after that but then again ya never know.
AWARMols at your service lol
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i say we turn off killshooter in there..... :devil :devil :bolt:
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i say we turn off killshooter in there..... :devil :devil :bolt:
lol nawww just turn off rank and score, problem solved
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They are not doing it for score, they are doing just to be richards. Score is just one path they use to get to people. Removing it will not get rid of them or alter how they fly/fight.
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Lessee if I can get this all straight.
There's been a lot of trash talk on Channel 1 (All Channel) It gets rather ugly and hostile and is a turnoff to many but they can't detune it.
Policing it is full of pitfalls, What should be allowed or not is subjective. If you ping one guy "He can say why me? so and so started it." etc
It's difficult to always tell who is the instigator and since a mute goes across the board rather than just the channel in question, an admin is using a broadsword rather than a scalpel.
Some players do enjoy the friendly interaction and then there are others that enjoy the trash-talk as well and consider it part of the game.
If channel 1 is disabled, it will all move to channel 200. Anyone who wishes to be free of the trash talk or those that want maximum immersion can detune it, but then others who want friendly cross country comms W/O reading a bunch of trash talk will still want some moderation of 200 and we are right back to the difficulty of policing the channel.
Jeez, my friggin head is about to explode!
Ok, lets disable channel 1, moderate channel 200 and try to keep it a safe friendly place and then designate channel 205 as an unmoderated "wild west channel."
Now there's a place for friendly communicators and one for smack talkers and whoever wants to can detune one or the other or both.
I's the perfect solution! at least until I read the next post in this thread.
Maybe I should just go have a drink. :lol
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Maybe I should just go have a drink. :lol
Now you're talking!
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Jimson the( All ) Channel can be detuned in the radio channel select drop down, for those who wish not to see it just change it to country
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Jimson the( All ) Channel can be detuned in the radio channel select drop down, for those who wish not to see it just change it to country
No it can't. If you "de-tune it" you can't transmit on it, but you will see all that is transmitted on it by others.
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Lessee if I can get this all straight.
There's been a lot of trash talk on Channel 1 (All Channel) It gets rather ugly and hostile and is a turnoff to many but they can't detune it.
Policing it is full of pitfalls, What should be allowed or not is subjective. If you ping one guy "He can say why me? so and so started it." etc
It's difficult to always tell who is the instigator and since a mute goes across the board rather than just the channel in question, an admin is using a broadsword rather than a scalpel.
Some players do enjoy the friendly interaction and then there are others that enjoy the trash-talk as well and consider it part of the game.
If channel 1 is disabled, it will all move to channel 200. Anyone who wishes to be free of the trash talk or those that want maximum immersion can detune it, but then others who want friendly cross country comms W/O reading a bunch of trash talk will still want some moderation of 200 and we are right back to the difficulty of policing the channel.
Jeez, my friggin head is about to explode!
Ok, lets disable channel 1, moderate channel 200 and try to keep it a safe friendly place and then designate channel 205 as an unmoderated "wild west channel."
Now there's a place for friendly communicators and one for smack talkers and whoever wants to can detune one or the other or both.
I's the perfect solution! at least until I read the next post in this thread.
Maybe I should just go have a drink. :lol
the wheels on the bus go round and round....round and round, round and rounddddd........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEtuXrV_KnM
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Ok, lets disable channel 1, moderate channel 200 and try to keep it a safe friendly place and then designate channel 205 as an unmoderated "wild west channel."
Now there's a place for friendly communicators and one for smack talkers and whoever wants to can detune one or the other or both.
I's the perfect solution! at least until I read the next post in this thread.
Maybe I should just go have a drink. :lol
I like this one :)............especially the drinking part.
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Maybe I should just go have a drink. :lol
I'm buying..
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If I wasn't busy in the TA most of the time I wouldn't mind monitoring channel 1. Same rules for TA chat can be transferred to the AvA, you just have to draw a line and stick to your guns. A warning is good for almost all I have to deal with in there, they don't get a second one normally. We shouldn't have to adjust to those that are the causing the problem. Those causing the problems should be doing the adjusting. On the same note reacting in the same manner to such bad behavior should get the same punishment. Equal action recieves equal reaction. In my oppinion a couple of weeks of text banning and or ejecting, for bad behavior will do wonders. Everyone will either have to behave and act like adults or possibly watch TV for a while :lol
Just my thoughts
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BigRat
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Just one thought: it's kinda like work...you send an e-mail to two people. One thinks it is funny and the other takes it as sexual harassment! I think if the arena is montiored you need to look at the whole thread and make a deternination if it is getting out of hand. I may be late on saying this, but I was busy beating my wife.
.....at cards! :x
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seems to me, they(the triplets) haven't said too much in 3 days. do we really need to work ourselves into a lather? i think there's more banter and probable bad press continuing this thread then if we just let this go.
the answer is pretty much keep channel 1. ok done, lets just keep an eye on it, keep players informed of negative banter, and continue with our cartoon pilot lives.
id like to thank everyone for your opinions. all are duly noted and now lets move on and play the game. 4 sheep bounty on any triplet you shoot down! just film it for proof! all sheep will be delivered within 3 weeks of confirmation from the confirmation committee. sheep winner also responsible for buying everyone a beer, or if they dont drink, a lime rickey!
that is all, carry on!
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If I wasn't busy in the TA most of the time I wouldn't mind monitoring channel 1. Same rules for TA chat can be transferred to the AvA, you just have to draw a line and stick to your guns. A warning is good for almost all I have to deal with in there, they don't get a second one normally. We shouldn't have to adjust to those that are the causing the problem. Those causing the problems should be doing the adjusting. On the same note reacting in the same manner to such bad behavior should get the same punishment. Equal action recieves equal reaction. In my oppinion a couple of weeks of text banning and or ejecting, for bad behavior will do wonders. Everyone will either have to behave and act like adults or possibly watch TV for a while :lol
Just my thoughts
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BigRat
Best post right here. :salute
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No it can't. If you "de-tune it" you can't transmit on it, but you will see all that is transmitted on it by others.
.squelch 1 should work.
Anyway, my two cents is quit giving the shades crew what they came back for. You guys are giving it to them on a daily basis. If they are what some of you feel is abusive then .report and send it in to Skuzzy. If a Staffer is on and feels something is out of line then they should handle it as they see fit. I don't really see anything else that can be done.
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If I wasn't busy in the TA most of the time I wouldn't mind monitoring channel 1. Same rules for TA chat can be transferred to the AvA, you just have to draw a line and stick to your guns. A warning is good for almost all I have to deal with in there, they don't get a second one normally. We shouldn't have to adjust to those that are the causing the problem. Those causing the problems should be doing the adjusting. On the same note reacting in the same manner to such bad behavior should get the same punishment. Equal action recieves equal reaction. In my oppinion a couple of weeks of text banning and or ejecting, for bad behavior will do wonders. Everyone will either have to behave and act like adults or possibly watch TV for a while :lol
Just my thoughts
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BigRat
I agree. Well put, BigRat! Enough with the touchy feely. If these guys won't behave with the most basic common courtesy and manners like everyone else seems to be able to, then it's time for consequences. :salute
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seems to me, they(the triplets) haven't said too much in 3 days. do we really need to work ourselves into a lather? i think there's more banter and probable bad press continuing this thread then if we just let this go.
the answer is pretty much keep channel 1. ok done, lets just keep an eye on it, keep players informed of negative banter, and continue with our cartoon pilot lives.
id like to thank everyone for your opinions. all are duly noted and now lets move on and play the game. 4 sheep bounty on any triplet you shoot down! just film it for proof! all sheep will be delivered within 3 weeks of confirmation from the confirmation committee. sheep winner also responsible for buying everyone a beer, or if they dont drink, a lime rickey!
that is all, carry on!
bolded......is that retroactive? if so, i'd like to claim my 12 sheep. :devil
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wheres my beer first! hehehe
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wheres my beer first! hehehe
i'll fly it up to ya when i get my PPL current again. i'm thinking of getting current in the spring...and checking out in the diamond da-20's we have......... :cheers:
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i was out tonight in a skyhawk xp
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i was out tonight in a skyhawk xp
nice........very nice.......
we had 2 where i took my primary training. they had their own seperate checkouts from the other skyhawks. i checked out in one, but they were about $30/hour more than the regular skyhawks in the club. the performance wasn't really much better then 10dj(a 79 "N" model converted to 180hp), so i never really flew them.
my 2 favorited in the club were 10dj, 'cause she lept off the ground, and could cruise rather quick for a 172.........and i liked 46FW.......she wasn't really great at anything, but she did everything very nicely......besides, i took my very first solo flight in her. it was sad when they sold her.
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very cool. well im off to watch south park and then to bed, have a good night!
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very cool. well im off to watch south park and then to bed, have a good night!
hey!! if you're stayin up to watch that, ya need to stay up for futurama too.........and have a good night...i think i should make it in for a bit tomorrow night.....
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Hay CAP1, I'll fly with ya also when I get my PPL updated too! :rock
Check out the ICON 5a for a real trip! I want one!! :x