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Title: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Tyrannis on December 01, 2010, 07:40:08 AM
hey guys, found some cool p-39 skins, how about putting some of these in the game?
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Tyrannis on December 01, 2010, 07:41:22 AM
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Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: jolly22 on December 01, 2010, 09:38:31 AM
I really like the the last 3 on the first post  :aok
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Soulyss on December 01, 2010, 10:11:00 AM
We almost have the first one in game already.  :)

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq209/Soulyss/AvA/attack.jpg)
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: lyric1 on December 01, 2010, 02:59:46 PM
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The RAAF TZ A53-9 is a aircraft that I gave to FTJR to do a long time back. It is in game already.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on December 01, 2010, 10:05:33 PM
I think we should have this In Honor of all the Fins   :old:  :salute

Lt. Erick W. Kyro,  5th AF, 35th FG, 41st FS

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/P39flyingfinnnoseart.jpg?t=1291260659)
FLYING FINN's squadron number was 75 with a large letter F on the fuselage.

"Erick Kyro graduated from the University of Michigan with a BS in Forestry in 1940. He worked as a forest ranger for a time. He occupied living quarters on top of a mountain and kept a lookout for the smoke of a forest fire. He also worked at the Vickers manufacturing plant in Detroit for a short time.

Erick believed that war was coming so he enlisted volunteered before Pearl Harbor. From March 12 to June 2 1941, he served in the U.S. Naval Reserve at Grosse Ile, Michigan, and soloed the N3N Navy biplane.

When Navy bureaucrats processed his paper work they noticed that Erick had been born in Canada. They decided that he could not continue in the Navy since the rules at that time required that all new Navy officers must be native born. This turned out to be a lucky break because Erick’s Navy classmates became pilots of torpedo bombers. That group attacked the Japanese fleet at the Battle of Midway in June 1942. All the planes were shot down and only one man survived.

Erick transferred to the US Army Air Corps as a flying cadet beginning on November 7, 1941 -- exactly one month before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Erick trained at Kelly Field in Texas, learning to fly progressively faster and “hotter” military aircraft. He continued to serve as a fighter pilot throughout World War II.

Erick Kyro was called to active duty. Anna attended Erick's graduation from flying school as a pilot and his commissioning as a second lieutenant in the US Army Air Corps at Foster Field, Victoria, Texas, on 3 July 1942. William visited Erick while Erick was delayed in San Francisco awaiting shipment overseas. Erick was sent to the combat zone in New Guinea in September 1942

Pilots did not have an easy time during W.W.II. When Erick first arrived in New Guinea he was assigned to share a tent with seven other pilots. Erick was the only one of those eight pilots to survive.

As a fighter pilot, Erick flew 215 combat missions, 480 combat hours, in P-39 Bell Airacobra and P-47 Republic Thunderbolt fighter planes in New Guinea for 17 months during W.W.II. His P-39 was named “The Flying Finn.” His missions were mostly bombing and strafing enemy positions in support of Allied ground troops. However, he did shoot down one enemy bomber.

Erick Kyro returned to the US in March 1944, still on active duty. Erick married Violet Erickson in Detroit on April 8, 1944, in a Finnish language ceremony"

excerpts from The Biography of William Arvi Kyro
                             by John K. Dixon and Erick W. Kyro (April 2006)
http://www.dixonsite.net/kyrobio/kyrozero.html (http://www.dixonsite.net/kyrobio/kyrozero.html)  <good by it's self>

Erick also flew P-400 SISU <Finnish for Guts>
(http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=137826)
(http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/veterans/kyro/sisu.jpg)


His P-400 was named SISU, which had the name painted in white pseudo oriental-type letters on the sheet metal just above the twelve-stack exhaust ports and below the aft glass canopy. This airplane also had the squadron number 75 and the large letter F.

He flew this mission against a Japanese gun emplacement in Shaggy Ridge. This was the only know mission in New Guinea when the P-39 used as dive bomber.

http://www.aerothentic.com/photos/noseart/P39s/p39flyingfinn.htm (http://www.aerothentic.com/photos/noseart/P39s/p39flyingfinn.htm)



"I arrived in Port Moresby on October 1, 1942, and was assigned to the 41st Fighter Squadron at 7-Mile airstrip. My first flight was in a P-400 on 15 October 1942. My last flight in a 41st Squadron Airacobra was at Tsili Tsili, near the Finesterre Mountains, on 28 November 1943 in a P-39Q-6.

I was then an instructor at the Fighter Replacement Center in Charters Towers, west of Townsville, Australia, all of December 1943 until the last log entry there on January 13, 1944. At Charters Tower I flew P-40, P-38, P-39, P-47, Wirraway, and O-47 type aircraft. The O-47 was an old US-type reconnaissance, mid-wing monoplane in which I took the mess sergeant to Cairns to buy and transport spaghetti materials for our mess. I was with the 41st squadron until Gusap, in the Markham Valley of New Guinea, having flown 215 combat missions, 480 combat hours. My last flight at Gusap was in a P-47D-3 on February 28, 1944. I left for home at the beginning of March, 1944. "
Erick Kyro

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/veterans/kyro.html (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/veterans/kyro.html)


Maj Gen. Erick Kyro is 94 and resides in Southfield, Mich.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Soulyss on December 02, 2010, 03:12:08 PM
Most excellent, +1 for anything 41st FS.  After reading Edward Parks books, I've been on a minor crusade to identify the people/characters and had a little luck, but I'm always happy to see more 41st material. :)
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Karnak on December 02, 2010, 06:11:37 PM
"Sisu" doesn't really translate as "guts" so much as "what must be done will be done, regardless of the cost".
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Soulyss on December 02, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
"Sisu" doesn't really translate as "guts" so much as "what must be done will be done, regardless of the cost".

For what it's worth I believe Kyro is the one who used the term "guts" during a video interview, although if memory serves he says that it's a rough translation. 
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: cactuskooler on December 03, 2010, 07:03:39 PM
I think we should have this In Honor of all the Fins   :old:  :salute

Lt. Erick W. Kyro,  5th AF, 35th FG, 41st FS

...


(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/41st%20FS/ahss101copy.jpg)

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/41st%20FS/ahss111copy.jpg)
Unsure what colors the skier's clothes are.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: lyric1 on December 03, 2010, 07:22:37 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on December 17, 2010, 11:36:27 AM
That looks awesum Catuscooler! :x

I'm still waiting for a reply!

Also ...I think the tail maybe white.

Ty Again!
 :cheers:
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: oboe on December 17, 2010, 04:48:14 PM
Another terrific skin, Cactus!    :aok
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Guppy35 on December 18, 2010, 11:38:50 AM
Wasn't 75 the one that Park got shot up in during the Moresby raid?  Had to tell 75'a pilot that they had to junk her.  That was a P400
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on February 09, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
We almost have the first one in game already.  :)

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq209/Soulyss/AvA/attack.jpg)

Here is a nice shot of that plane.

Notice the tail, prophub, the thickness of the ring around the eye and the letter font.

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/80thFSp39-K-1.jpg?t=1297297662)

 :salute
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on February 09, 2011, 07:26:33 PM
Still have not heard anything
Wasn't 75 the one that Park got shot up in during the Moresby raid?  Had to tell 75'a pilot that they had to junk her.  That was a P400
I don't know. Park's.. Nanette was #74 or #76 I think.

What I was talking about with the white tail and Snumbers  41st P39n-5 #72 V 42-18815
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41st39n.jpg?t=1297300113)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41st39ntext.jpg?t=1297303533)


Here is profile of #95 S 42-18805
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41stp-39n5profiletoddyS.jpg?t=1297300316)
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on February 09, 2011, 07:37:04 PM
A nice shot of the Original post's 80thFS p-400 F
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/80thFSp39-F.jpg?t=1297301135)
This poor guy had bad malaria

 here is W as well
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/80thFSp39-W.jpg?t=1297301733)

 I like the different shark expressions
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Tyrannis on February 09, 2011, 07:41:42 PM
Still have not heard anything I don't know. Park's.. Nanette was #74 or #76 I think.

What I was talking about with the white tail and Snumbers  41st P39n-5 #72 V 42-18815
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41st39n.jpg?t=1297300113)

Here is profile of #95 S 42-18805
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41stp-39n5profiletoddyS.jpg?t=1297300316)

that other plane in the first picture...is that a peashooter? it has landing gear like a peashooter  :O
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: cactuskooler on February 09, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
Still have not heard anything I don't know. Park's.. Nanette was #74 or #76 I think.

What I was talking about with the white tail and Snumbers  41st P39n-5 #72 V 42-18815
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41st39n.jpg?t=1297300113)

Here is profile of #95 S 42-18805
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41stp-39n5profiletoddyS.jpg?t=1297300316)


Nanette was 74, but Park flew 75 one day and ended up getting it all shot up. SISU is a 400 and is supposed to be #75. Perhaps Kyro can thank Park for the end of his plane. :)

This one shows the edge of the 5 on Flying Finn.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/41st%20FS/Untitled-32.jpg)
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on February 09, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
Nanette was 74, but Park flew 75 one day and ended up getting it all shot up. SISU is a 400 and is supposed to be #75. Perhaps Kyro can thank Park for the end of his plane. :)

This one shows the edge of the 5 on Flying Finn.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/41st%20FS/Untitled-32.jpg)

Nice I'm sure he was happy he got a nice new shinny D Model :D....could ya make make it a D model  :old: :pray  lets see f-P <mumbles> AHHH!! 41-38494?
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41stp-39d2profile.jpg?t=1297304369)

I imagine the shirt is Shamrock or Kelly green, dark blue jeans and black shoes  :aok
 :salute
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: cactuskooler on February 09, 2011, 10:11:58 PM
Nice I'm sure he was happy he got a nice new shinny D Model :D....could ya make make it a D model  :old: :pray  
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/41stp-39d2profile.jpg?t=1297304369)

I imagine the shirt is Shamrock or Kelly green, dark blue jeans and black shoes  :aok
 :salute


Wish I could. I like the D better too, but I think a N model has to go on the Q.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: oboe on February 09, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
Wish I could. I like the D better too, but I think a N model has to go on the Q.

Are you sure about that, Cactus?   IIRC the N has same wing armament as the D; Q was the first switch to .50 cal underwing pods.  Not sure about all up weight changes or engine hp though.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on February 09, 2011, 11:11:18 PM
Wish I could. I like the D better too, but I think a N model has to go on the Q.

Don't ya know he just switched the door!! on his p-39's he had an L too.
 :cheers:

Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Guppy35 on February 09, 2011, 11:14:08 PM
Here is a nice shot of that plane.

Notice the tail, prophub, the thickness of the ring around the eye and the letter font.

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/80thFSp39-K-1.jpg?t=1297297662)

 :salute

LOL the danger of books with lousy proof readers.  Lt. Robert Rutt, is really Lt. Norbert Ruff :)  He had 4 kills in 38s.  His 38 was known as "Ruff Stuff" and while it was a 38G, it's the paint scheme on a restored P38L based in Minnesota.  Ruff was from Wisconsin and a friend of the guys restoring the 38 who did it in his honor.  He passed away a couple years ago.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: cactuskooler on February 09, 2011, 11:29:38 PM
Are you sure about that, Cactus?   IIRC the N has same wing armament as the D; Q was the first switch to .50 cal underwing pods.  Not sure about all up weight changes or engine hp though.

Not 100%. That's the impression I got after searching through some older threads.

I believe the N has the same engine as the Q, but the same armament as the earlier models. Kind of dead in between the D and the Q.

Anyone know for sure?

Don't ya know he just switched the door!! on his p-39's he had an L too.
 :cheers:

All I know is the link you posted says it's a N. http://www.aerothentic.com/photos/noseart/P39s/p39flyingfinn.htm (http://www.aerothentic.com/photos/noseart/P39s/p39flyingfinn.htm) I think I would need some more proof/pictures before I could submit it as something else.
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Krusty on February 09, 2011, 11:34:12 PM
The changes made in the N were incorporated into the Q. They're essentially the same plane with the same performance and capabilities. The only (major) difference being the outboard guns. But this doesn't matter much since most Soviet pilots had those removed anyways.


I'd love to see the .30 outboard guns on the P-39Q in-game, just to fill-in for the M/N models. That, and I'd love to ping the heck outta folks after my taters are gone!

 :t :devil
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Megalodon on February 09, 2011, 11:45:00 PM
Not 100%. That's the impression I got after searching through some older threads.

I believe the N has the same engine as the Q, but the same armament as the earlier models. Kind of dead in between the D and the Q.

Anyone know for sure?

All I know is the link you posted says it's a N. http://www.aerothentic.com/photos/noseart/P39s/p39flyingfinn.htm (http://www.aerothentic.com/photos/noseart/P39s/p39flyingfinn.htm) I think I would need some more proof/pictures before I could submit it as something else.
You are correct I will keep looking

LOL the danger of books with lousy proof readers.  Lt. Robert Rutt, is really Lt. Norbert Ruff :)  He had 4 kills in 38s.  His 38 was known as "Ruff Stuff" and while it was a 38G, it's the paint scheme on a restored P38L based in Minnesota.  Ruff was from Wisconsin and a friend of the guys restoring the 38 who did it in his honor.  He passed away a couple years ago.

All the same a nice shot of the plane its a p-400


The changes made in the N were incorporated into the Q. They're essentially the same plane with the same performance and capabilities. The only (major) difference being the outboard guns. But this doesn't matter much since most Soviet pilots had those removed anyways.


I'd love to see the .30 outboard guns on the P-39Q in-game, just to fill-in for the M/N models. That, and I'd love to ping the heck outta folks after my taters are gone!

 :t :devil
actually It would be the K, L and M  models. specifically K-5 which was a G that came from the D  :lol

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/P-39versions.jpg?t=1297316334)
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Krusty on February 10, 2011, 12:02:44 AM
I believe there were other minor differences that set the K apart (possible a different prop, different engine rating -- I'd have to check to be sure)
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Guppy35 on February 10, 2011, 01:07:44 AM
You are correct I will keep looking

All the same a nice shot of the plane its a p-400


Agreed.  It's a Norb Ruff photo :)

A bunch of them in his book and in Stanaway's "Attack & Conquer"
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Tyrannis on February 10, 2011, 01:46:03 AM
was there every a p39 model that had the performance of the Q model but had the 20mm gun option instead of the 37mm like the D model has?
Title: Re: new p-39 skins?
Post by: Krusty on February 10, 2011, 11:10:22 AM
Nope.