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Title: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: GreenEagle43 on December 04, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
my wish is that i would like to see trees blown up if the wear hit by a tanker exposing the tank hiding between the tree's. and being able to drive through a bush with my tank instead of stopping dead. or salvo rounds going through a bush and hitting a tank.as far a the tree's blowing up.make it come apart a little at a time exposing the tank to hit. or make the tanker want to make his move and find a nother place to hid because the tree's around him are getting blown up.

what do you the aces high family? and hitec.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: DERK13 on December 04, 2010, 11:59:20 PM
good thought i like it, to an extent. i can remeber when 1000lbers were stopped by trees, man was that fun.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2010, 01:12:41 AM
Not technically feasible.  Too many trees for the game to track damage on and submit a destroyed/not destroyed flag to each FE that comes in range of it.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: LLogann on December 05, 2010, 02:03:56 AM
Sadly...... My Mossie brother speaks the truth.   :frown:

Not technically feasible.  Too many trees for the game to track damage on and submit a destroyed/not destroyed flag to each FE that comes in range of it.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Tyrannis on December 05, 2010, 03:34:43 AM
Not technically feasible.  Too many trees for the game to track damage on and submit a destroyed/not destroyed flag to each FE that comes in range of it.

ya know, this can be all avoided if they added napalm in the game, and gave it the ability when droped, it could burn down the trees/bushes and clear a path for the tank ppl, they can make it so trees "pop"
 like buildings, just every 10 mins
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: caldera on December 05, 2010, 08:22:46 AM
Why not just make it so trees are transparent (not visually, just lack the proper word) to tank rounds? 
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: 100goon on December 05, 2010, 08:34:39 AM
ya know, this can be all avoided if they added napalm in the game, and gave it the ability when droped, it could burn down the trees/bushes and clear a path for the tank ppl, they can make it so trees "pop"
 like buildings, just every 10 mins

no napalm. end of discussion. lock it now.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Tyrannis on December 05, 2010, 09:01:07 AM
no napalm. end of discussion. lock it now.

why not? its a good idea. give napalm the ability to only burn down bushes/trees and you avoid most of the problems ppl whine about. (like the whole "napalm the map room so no troops can get in")


stop being selfish, and saying no to something just because YOU yourself dont like it.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: thndregg on December 05, 2010, 10:45:06 AM
stop being selfish, and saying no to something just because YOU yourself dont like it.

LOL!! Demanding & presumptuous, aren't we? Welcome to the world of diverse opinions. Be sure to redifine the laws of physics because the last we checked, the world does not revolve around you.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Tyrannis on December 05, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
did i say it revolved around me? no, i didnt, i didnt DEMAND napalm be put in just because it was ME who said it.

therefore, the hell are you talking about? :huh
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: oakranger on December 05, 2010, 12:01:24 PM
SAVE THE TREES! KILL THE GV'S!
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2010, 12:17:58 PM
why not? its a good idea. give napalm the ability to only burn down bushes/trees and you avoid most of the problems ppl whine about. (like the whole "napalm the map room so no troops can get in")
Being able to destroy trees would be a nice feature, it isn't that us naysayers don't want it.

The problem is that there are too many trees for the server to track a destroyed/not destroyed flag for them.  It is a technical limitation.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Saxman on December 05, 2010, 12:53:29 PM
Being able to destroy trees would be a nice feature, it isn't that us naysayers don't want it.

The problem is that there are too many trees for the server to track a destroyed/not destroyed flag for them.  It is a technical limitation.
ya know, this can be all avoided if they added napalm in the game, and gave it the ability when droped, it could burn down the trees/bushes and clear a path for the tank ppl, they can make it so trees "pop"
 like buildings, just every 10 mins

As Karnak says. It has nothing to do with HOW they are destroyed. It's just the fact that they ARE.

Every building that gets blown up in town or on a base has to be tracked by the server, and then that information relayed to every player in visual range. This can be done because there's a relatively small number of buildings (and part of why the new cities can have such a big performance impact).

There are FAR more trees in a given 1 mile x 1 mile terrain tile than there are on an airfield or town. Multiply THAT but your current visual range. That's how many trees would have to be tracked as destroyed or intact by the server.

For example, let's say your visual range in all directions is 25 miles. If I did the circle area calculation right, that means your visual area encompasses a circle of about ~1962 sq. miles. If each 1 sq. mile terrain tile has 30 trees, that's nearly 60,000 TREES that the server would need to track whether or not they were destroyed. And that's JUST for you. Now consider there may be 20-30 people in the air and on the ground that ALL need to be updated with that information.

Can you say lag?
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: 321BAR on December 05, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
Track the tree clumps in blocks by any chance? just an idea...
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: Saxman on December 05, 2010, 09:06:10 PM
That would look pretty bad, though, one shell taking down an entire grove of trees (HE round or a 1000lb bomb might, but a small bomb or AP shell?). Further, even if you break those 30 trees per sq. mile down to 5-6 blocks of trees, you're still looking at a MASSIVE number of objects to track the status of.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: EskimoJoe on December 05, 2010, 09:41:43 PM
That would look pretty bad, though, one shell taking down an entire grove of trees (HE round or a 1000lb bomb might, but a small bomb or AP shell?). Further, even if you break those 30 trees per sq. mile down to 5-6 blocks of trees, you're still looking at a MASSIVE number of objects to track the status of.

What if we had 2-3 designated "Tanker" areas of the map? This way, we don't have to track ALL of the trees on a map, just 10-15 groups per area, around where fights would take place?

Just throwing an idea out there.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: 321BAR on December 05, 2010, 10:32:54 PM
What if we had 2-3 designated "Tanker" areas of the map? This way, we don't have to track ALL of the trees on a map, just 10-15 groups per area, around where fights would take place?

Just throwing an idea out there.
would work...
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: LLogann on December 05, 2010, 11:34:23 PM
Karnak speaks the truth boobs........... Think about it....... Even if we had the infrastructure for managing trees.......Day 5 of the same map, all the trees would be gone. 

Being able to destroy trees would be a nice feature, it isn't that us naysayers don't want it.

The problem is that there are too many trees for the server to track a destroyed/not destroyed flag for them.  It is a technical limitation.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: GreenEagle43 on December 09, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
i see where karnak is comming from. well it was just a wish. :pray
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: B4Buster on December 09, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
I can see it now...     
SYSTEM: Tyrannis destroyed 137 trees in a P-47D-40
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: dirtdart on December 09, 2010, 11:10:47 AM
Hey, I like a component of this thread.  Transparency.  Why can field guns shoot through trees and hit me when I cant even see much less fire back at them.  the only thing that will stop me from being hit by a auto gun is a mound.  I suppose though, if they were "transparent to weapons" they would probably have to be to the data that is your vehicle and you would have guys driving full bore through forrests instead of being canalized by the trees.... thoughts?
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: B4Buster on December 09, 2010, 11:21:27 AM
I like my bushes well trimmed anyway.
Title: Re: my wish(tree's and bushes)
Post by: dirtdart on December 09, 2010, 11:26:20 AM
I like my bushes well trimmed anyway.

That way the single oak stands proud...  :neener: