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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dadsguns on December 10, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
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After many years of hearing of my Active duty Brethren die each year to fatalities that could have been avoided during the Christmas season, I feel compelled to pass along to you some advice, before you get behind the wheel this Holiday Season, take a moment to think about the consequences of not only your life but the lives of the ones you will effect when you Gamble behind the wheel after you have consumed alcohol.
This is a powerful but graphic depiction of what can happen. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
Have a Safe Holiday period.
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I lost my older bro because of dwi. and another but not dwi alcohol related.
condolences to everyone who lost a loved one to this preventable cowardness.
this is why marijuana shud be legal n alcohol illegal. what is it 30 million people affected by alcohol related accidents every year?.
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what is it 30 million people affected by alcohol related accidents every year?.
Possibly.... if you include accidents that are alcohol related but not caused by it. Even when an accident is not caused by the one drinking, it is still considered alcohol related.
Alot of accidents caused by cell phone use, eating, and putting on makeup too.
I lost a Cousin to a DWI. Drunk guy in a van hit them head-on. Happened just a couple of days before him and his girl were to be married. He was buried on the day his wedding was to happen.
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this is why marijuana shud be legal n alcohol illegal. what is it 30 million people affected by alcohol related accidents every year?.
Well, just to let you know, even if weed was legalized it would still be DWI ...
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Well, just to let you know, even if weed was legalized it would still be DWI ...
In addition to being just as negligent and stupid. Quite a few folks can't drive worth a darn totally sober, imagine them driving hammered, by anything. Remember you have to drive on the same roads with them.
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Main thing is... be careful through out the Christmas Season as there will always be folks who will drive when they shouldn't. Even if you are not drinking watch for those who are.
Dadsguns was just reminding us all to be aware. :salute Dadsguns to you and yours.
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u guys ever get calls from the MADD? I wish more people would support them. got a kids magazine thru them.
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Good thing I don't drink :huh
I agree with greens
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After many years of hearing of my Active duty Brethren die each year to fatalities that could have been avoided during the Christmas season, I feel compelled to pass along to you some advice, before you get behind the wheel this Holiday Season, take a moment to think about the consequences of not only your life but the lives of the ones you will effect when you Gamble behind the wheel after you have consumed alcohol.
This is a powerful but graphic depiction of what can happen. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
Have a Safe Holiday period.
good post....and merry christmas to you too sir.
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Selfish and dumb to party without a safe way home.
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I know a cop who has had to do go tell the familys that their relative had died in a car accident, he said the hardest part was staying strong for those who had lost,
he also told me he hardest one is one where he arrived first, and had a 16 year old boy die while he was trying to keep him alive...
and telling the boys family that their son died in his arms was the hardest thing he has ever done...
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I know a cop who has had to do go tell the familys that their relative had died in a car accident, he said the hardest part was staying strong for those who had lost,
he also told me he hardest one is one where he arrived first, and had a 16 year old boy die while he was trying to keep him alive...
and telling the boys family that their son died in his arms was the hardest thing he has ever done...
that is a good point. everyone seems to think that cops aren't people, when in fact they are people just like the rest of us.....and they can hurt inside, just like the rest of us.
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I live in a tourist town, and apparently people cant have fun without drinking alcohol, because our little town has one of the highest %'s of alcohol related accidents every year.
I honestly wish a DWI was a minimum of a 1 year prison sentence for first offenders, and going up from there.
Everyone knows someone who has lost someone, or knows someone who has been affected by it.
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Perhaps a slightly less Draconian system would work better:
First time, car impounded for twelve months and liscence suspended for thirty-six months
Second time, twice what you got the first time
Third time, twice what you got the second time, plus one year of prison
Fourth time, twice what you got the third time
Then it goes on and on and on
-Penguin
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Draconian works for me.
1st offence- car is crushed and 1 year in prison + fine
2nd offence- permanent driving ban and 5 years in prison
Nobody puts a gun to their head and makes drinkers get into cars
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Draconian works for me.
1st offence- car is crushed and 1 year in prison + fine
2nd offence- permanent driving ban and 5 years in prison
Nobody puts a gun to their head and makes drinkers get into cars
nah......don't crush it. sell it to help pay for the offenders prison term.
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This is a serious message and it really needed to be said. I'm a young driver, and I as well as everyone else needs to be driving defensively this season. :salute
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Why you bringing everybody down Chief?
I only gamble with one thing..... My life..... But I only do it sober.
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oh sh*t at 2:20!
noticed some of you think prison time is the only way to go for offenders, have you considered the type of person they will become after 1 or 5 years in prison? Rather than any attempt at education, let's just throw them into a hostile environment where they will learn to be more violent and then release them back out on society....sounds good to me.
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Why you bringing everybody down Chief?
Not sure how this message brings anyone down, it hopefully will give a person a moment to think when the time comes before they act on an impulse that could effect them for the rest of their lives.
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<------ At the airport drinking :D But don't fret, I'm not the Captain. :aok
Not sure how this message brings anyone down, it hopefully will give a person a moment to think when the time comes before they act on an impulse that could effect them for the rest of their lives.
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Your good to go until you get to your destination, you wont be driving when you get feet dry will you?
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Negative sir........ I may be stupid, but I'm not that stupid!!! :cheers:
Your good to go until you get to your destination, you wont be driving when you get feet dry will you?
Plus the flight is 8 hours....... Would be plenty of time to sober if I had to. :salute
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oh sh*t at 2:20!
noticed some of you think prison time is the only way to go for offenders, have you considered the type of person they will become after 1 or 5 years in prison? Rather than any attempt at education, let's just throw them into a hostile environment where they will learn to be more violent and then release them back out on society....sounds good to me.
well Bag i am in a particularly strange position to answer your question.
first, i have spent 14 years of my life incarcerated for various acts of youthful foolishness and stubbornness, so i am fully aware of what a person is likely to encounter while in prison
second i have lost 1 extremely special person to DWI and have lost 4 other casual friends to it, so i understand the loss of the innocence claimed by the act of DWI
third and finally i have been a Tow Truck Operator for the past 10 years and have been called to clean up the mess left behind by more than one DWI who "was OK to drive"
my perspective is simple, go look in the eyes of a child and tell them that their mother/father/brother/sister wont be coming home ever again, go look into the room of a burn victim screaming in agony, go talk to a young man confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life, go look in the mirror and ask yourself which of your children your willing to give up or which motor function you can live without and sacrifice to the gods of fate today because your second/third/fourth time DWI offender finally gets the brass ring and hits someone.........
if you have never had to bear the burden of being robbed of a loved one or been personally victimised by DWI then your judgment of what is fair is out of line here.
prison is based on boredom, don't watch TV and think you know what its like cause you'll be completely wrong. imagine boot camp without the enforced PT and you pretty much have it. the violence in most general population prisons (where a DWI offender would find himself) is in general no more than the violence you will encouter at your local redneck bar. the biggest trick to being in prison is this "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS", so its really not very difficult. additionally it doesn't create a criminal if one didn't exist within the person to begin with. if your not a rapist or murderer then prison wont make you one. its not like they sit around holding classes on the criminal acts.
All of my friends, even in my criminal days, understood/understand that if you are arrested call me and i will do anything i can to help.....unless you have been arrested on any type of rape or DWI, if you have then P*&S off.
DWI's are one of the lowest forms of scum that i can think of. how would you like someone playing Russian roulette with your family members? would you be so quick to be lenient knowing that in 90 days they get their gun back? or understanding that just because they took the carriers permit away from the offender that he/she can still just go get a gun and play again and again?
suffer loss first then judge the punishment against the pain.
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well Bag i am in a particularly strange position to answer your question.
first, i have spent 14 years of my life incarcerated for various acts of youthful foolishness and stubbornness, so i am fully aware of what a person is likely to encounter while in prison
second i have lost 1 extremely special person to DWI and have lost 4 other casual friends to it, so i understand the loss of the innocence claimed by the act of DWI
third and finally i have been a Tow Truck Operator for the past 10 years and have been called to clean up the mess left behind by more than one DWI who "was OK to drive"
my perspective is simple, go look in the eyes of a child and tell them that their mother/father/brother/sister wont be coming home ever again, go look into the room of a burn victim screaming in agony, go talk to a young man confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life, go look in the mirror and ask yourself which of your children your willing to give up or which motor function you can live without and sacrifice to the gods of fate today because your second/third/fourth time DWI offender finally gets the brass ring and hits someone.........
if you have never had to bear the burden of being robbed of a loved one or been personally victimised by DWI then your judgment of what is fair is out of line here.
prison is based on boredom, don't watch TV and think you know what its like cause you'll be completely wrong. imagine boot camp without the enforced PT and you pretty much have it. the violence in most general population prisons (where a DWI offender would find himself) is in general no more than the violence you will encouter at your local redneck bar. the biggest trick to being in prison is this "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS", so its really not very difficult. additionally it doesn't create a criminal if one didn't exist within the person to begin with. if your not a rapist or murderer then prison wont make you one. its not like they sit around holding classes on the criminal acts.
All of my friends, even in my criminal days, understood/understand that if you are arrested call me and i will do anything i can to help.....unless you have been arrested on any type of rape or DWI, if you have then P*&S off.
DWI's are one of the lowest forms of scum that i can think of. how would you like someone playing Russian roulette with your family members? would you be so quick to be lenient knowing that in 90 days they get their gun back? or understanding that just because they took the carriers permit away from the offender that he/she can still just go get a gun and play again and again?
suffer loss first then judge the punishment against the pain.
Very well said Flot...... :salute
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yup thought about it...cant really argue with that.
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well Bag i am in a particularly strange position to answer your question.
first, i have spent 14 years of my life incarcerated for various acts of youthful foolishness and stubbornness, so i am fully aware of what a person is likely to encounter while in prison
second i have lost 1 extremely special person to DWI and have lost 4 other casual friends to it, so i understand the loss of the innocence claimed by the act of DWI
third and finally i have been a Tow Truck Operator for the past 10 years and have been called to clean up the mess left behind by more than one DWI who "was OK to drive"
my perspective is simple, go look in the eyes of a child and tell them that their mother/father/brother/sister wont be coming home ever again, go look into the room of a burn victim screaming in agony, go talk to a young man confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life, go look in the mirror and ask yourself which of your children your willing to give up or which motor function you can live without and sacrifice to the gods of fate today because your second/third/fourth time DWI offender finally gets the brass ring and hits someone.........
if you have never had to bear the burden of being robbed of a loved one or been personally victimised by DWI then your judgment of what is fair is out of line here.
prison is based on boredom, don't watch TV and think you know what its like cause you'll be completely wrong. imagine boot camp without the enforced PT and you pretty much have it. the violence in most general population prisons (where a DWI offender would find himself) is in general no more than the violence you will encouter at your local redneck bar. the biggest trick to being in prison is this "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS", so its really not very difficult. additionally it doesn't create a criminal if one didn't exist within the person to begin with. if your not a rapist or murderer then prison wont make you one. its not like they sit around holding classes on the criminal acts.
All of my friends, even in my criminal days, understood/understand that if you are arrested call me and i will do anything i can to help.....unless you have been arrested on any type of rape or DWI, if you have then P*&S off.
DWI's are one of the lowest forms of scum that i can think of. how would you like someone playing Russian roulette with your family members? would you be so quick to be lenient knowing that in 90 days they get their gun back? or understanding that just because they took the carriers permit away from the offender that he/she can still just go get a gun and play again and again?
suffer loss first then judge the punishment against the pain.
i used to be a light drinker.....like light enough to be drunk from 3 to 4 beers........i didn't drive. now that i got my ppl, i don't touch alcohol except on new years eve.
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Wow! That was an eye opener.. Thanks for posting this. If it helps one person avoid drinking and driving it would be worth it...
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http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Drunk-driver-confused-by-traffic-barricades/vIxbFntmVESgISIZ9suXLQ.cspx
This happened this morning in San Antonio
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I haven't watched the video. I see enough of the mayhem caused by thoughtless boneheads without seeing video after video.
By far the accident that affected me the most was one where I had to move a child's dead parents out of the way to get to them.
As so many other times before the offender was walking around without a scratch.
Trust me after a call like that all you want to do is go home and hug your child to the point they are begging to be let go.
The thing is I used to do stupid stuff like this. I can't even count the number of times that I don't remember the drive home and sometimes they were over an hour long drives. These took place in my younger days and through the years I realized just how stupid it was and that the least thing I needed to worry about was getting stopped. I realized that I could not live with myself if I killed someone due to my stupidity.
Yes don't drive once you've started drinking. There are so many other ways to get home and always someone willing to help out. If it is a friend that is drunk then save a life yank his keys. Imagine taking a little one's parents away from them just because you were too proud to let someone drive you home.
BTW I think they need to go back to showing graphic movies for the new drivers again. Let them see the disaster they cause when they don't follow the rules.
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dfk they still show graphic movies.
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I won't fly my 38 during the holidays because of the drunken Bish that cross the center line and ho me constantly........ Getting trampled underfoot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X40Lr0WZYWc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X40Lr0WZYWc) by a drunken Bish peelot is a holiday nightmare...
Another reason to keep out of a fine plane like the 38 during the holidays is to avoid an inebriated Rook trying to get close to me ( who can blame them? ), and ramming me in the 6 which causes one of us to find out it is our time to die. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Ebs8K9TjI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Ebs8K9TjI) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb6pJlrS9DA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb6pJlrS9DA)
Stay safe over the holidays all of you no matter which cult you belong to. :devil
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dfk they still show graphic movies.
Maybe in some places but I know there was a huge movement here to "protect" our children from such graphic movies being shown in driver's ed. Though many of the schools in my area have done away with the Driver's Education all together.