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Title: Perceptions
Post by: thndregg on December 12, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Simple question on a topic that will most likely degenerate into something worth locking instead of cruising on a plane of acceptable intelligence & courtesy:

In the Late War Main Arenas, which side seems (as in simple non-factual perception) more resource-adept at keeping their bases from being overrun- as in, which side has a better understanding of the cause & effect relationship of the various base strat objects (or lack thereof when they are porked)?

I have noticed that defense is thought of a lot more often than "stopping the drain"- as in getting at the source of the troops (the barracks), getting at the source of the bombs (the ord bunkers), etc...
Key word is "source". Defense alone does not work unless the source of the problem can be destroyed.

Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: StokesAk on December 12, 2010, 10:10:08 PM
I will have to say rooks, always someone porking ors or troops at the base im rolling from.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: curry1 on December 12, 2010, 10:49:01 PM
Bish suck at this as you know egg.  Rooks are always seem to be more strategically vigilant.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: sky25 on December 12, 2010, 11:42:34 PM
As a Bish, I would have to say Rooks.. They are always porking...
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: EskimoJoe on December 13, 2010, 12:27:00 AM
I'm a Rook. Rook's suck, terribly, but we do always seem to have someone hitting troops/ords.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Slash27 on December 13, 2010, 12:51:18 AM
All three are the same.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: guncrasher on December 13, 2010, 01:18:33 AM


one thing i find hilarious about the bishops

they will have 20 and 30 plane high altitude missions which take players out of the game for hours while they lose bases.  yesterday they lost 8 bases.  while they accomplished to bomb the rook factories.  i think all buffs made it back, some landed as few as 1200 points for a 2 hour flight.  they slap each other on the back about the great mission they just accomplished.

as for bombing hq, it takes about 5 min to resupply it from nearest base.

semp
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Lusche on December 13, 2010, 01:42:15 AM
When you switch sides a lot, you will learn on every country channel that "we" suck, that "we" do not pork, and that "they" show us what organization really means while "we" are just furballing.

Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Max6 on December 13, 2010, 01:50:40 AM

one thing i find hilarious about the bishops

they will have 20 and 30 plane high altitude missions which take players out of the game for hours while they lose bases.  yesterday they lost 8 bases.  while they accomplished to bomb the rook factories.  i think all buffs made it back, some landed as few as 1200 points for a 2 hour flight.  they slap each other on the back about the great mission they just accomplished.

as for bombing hq, it takes about 5 min to resupply it from nearest base.

semp
So, the factories were bombed....
Instead of bombing the bases that attacks came from?   :uhoh

Must take the evil at its roots :lol

HQ is only a lure for those who want to bomb ..... They probably think that the bombing HQ will make the enemy vulnerable .... ? :x
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Lusche on December 13, 2010, 02:00:57 AM

one thing i find hilarious about the bishops

they will have 20 and 30 plane high altitude missions which take players out of the game for hours while they lose bases.  yesterday they lost 8 bases.  while they accomplished to bomb the rook factories.  i think all buffs made it back, some landed as few as 1200 points for a 2 hour flight.  they slap each other on the back about the great mission they just accomplished.

as for bombing hq, it takes about 5 min to resupply it from nearest base.

semp


So you think you should always play for maximum impact on the war and never just for having maximum fun? Maybe the guys in this mission didn't care about the lost bases? Maybe their mission was fun & great & a success?
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: oTRALFZo on December 13, 2010, 04:03:08 AM
Porking is a very valuable strategy. It stops a horde right in its tracks.

Squad MO is to gather everyone up and usually our first runs are our "toolshedding" ones. Best we did recently was 5 ponies and shut down ords/barracks on 3 small feilds and a medium feild on the same sortie.

Result: It keeps them "honest". Now you are free to roam and kill bad guys. Now even if its for 40 minutes, the bad are guys are on their heels trying to regroup and usually that gives you enough time to do the same.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: oTRALFZo on December 13, 2010, 04:11:16 AM

So you think you should always play for maximum impact on the war and never just for having maximum fun? Maybe the guys in this mission didn't care about the lost bases? Maybe their mission was fun & great & a success?
+ 1.  I saw people greifing the 91st the other day about this on 200. People thinking that missions need to have a tactical value in order to be fun. I hope ThundrEgg and the 91st will keep doing what hes doing and wish EVERYONE will follow and see more of it. :salute
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: uptown on December 13, 2010, 06:38:44 AM
All three are the same.
I agree.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Knite on December 13, 2010, 06:52:45 AM
All 3 are the same, except for the one that isn't.
 :huh
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Dadsguns on December 13, 2010, 07:10:06 AM
What you mean to say is "all three are the same,,,,, but different"
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: waystin2 on December 13, 2010, 07:18:22 AM
Putting aside all the typical "all the same" hyperbole and myth's my honest opinion is the Rooks seem better at the above mentioned skills/tasks.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: LCADolby on December 13, 2010, 07:47:00 AM
Someone once said to me "The Rooks are just... chaos... it's just chaos at all hours." But I prefer chaos over order.. It's more organised. :rock
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: thndregg on December 13, 2010, 07:47:40 AM

one thing i find hilarious about the bishops

they will have 20 and 30 plane high altitude missions which take players out of the game for hours while they lose bases.  yesterday they lost 8 bases.  while they accomplished to bomb the rook factories.  i think all buffs made it back, some landed as few as 1200 points for a 2 hour flight.  they slap each other on the back about the great mission they just accomplished.

as for bombing hq, it takes about 5 min to resupply it from nearest base.

semp

As opposed to what? :huh That was the 91st BG and 20th FG you observed having some change-of-pace fun. Would you rather promote us into doing exclusive (furball-killing) hangar banging instead? I guarantee your current opinion would be far overshadowed be those that value a good low knockdown-dragout fight.

Basically it was a run I put together since we've got the upcoming scenario fresh on our minds & we wanted to do something on that line in the main & get out of the drudgery. The 20th <<S>> was expert as usual in escorting us and knocking Rooks out of the stratosphere. :)

Base taking is fine & dandy, and losing consecutive bases gets wearing. I don't treat it like real money. It's a game, and my lowly opinion was the map was very stale.



Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: thndregg on December 13, 2010, 07:50:48 AM
+ 1.  I saw people greifing the 91st the other day about this on 200. People thinking that missions need to have a tactical value in order to be fun. I hope ThundrEgg and the 91st will keep doing what hes doing and wish EVERYONE will follow and see more of it. :salute

 :) I just saw this as I was responding. Thank you, Tralf! You are correct. We had a damn good time.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Vudak on December 13, 2010, 10:06:28 AM

one thing i find hilarious about the bishops

they will have 20 and 30 plane high altitude missions which take players out of the game for hours while they lose bases.  yesterday they lost 8 bases.  while they accomplished to bomb the rook factories.  i think all buffs made it back, some landed as few as 1200 points for a 2 hour flight.  they slap each other on the back about the great mission they just accomplished.

as for bombing hq, it takes about 5 min to resupply it from nearest base.

semp

I wish more people would do these kind of missions.  How can you be a world war II airplane junkie and not appreciate an escorted bombing raid deep behind enemy lines, or the chance to intercept it?
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Dadsguns on December 13, 2010, 10:24:42 AM
I wish more people would do these kind of missions.  How can you be a world war II airplane junkie and not appreciate an escorted bombing raid deep behind enemy lines, or the chance to intercept it?

Absolutely, they are fun to fly as well as fight.  They only suk when you find them noe nothing about that can be appreciated.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: R 105 on December 13, 2010, 11:56:39 AM
It always surprised how few players will pork ords and troops. They will lose base after base because ords are up at the attacking air field. No matter how many times I type go kill ords. It seams to me I am one of the very few who will take down ords. I pretty much saved A56 the other day just by porking the ords at the attacking field. Even out numbers as we were we held A56.

This is a simple tactic that works and yes they can resupply the base,but I guarantee the other side will get tired of driving M-3s with supplies before I do bombing them back down. Plus if they are driving M-3s with supplies all day, They ain't attacking you.

Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: SuperDud on December 13, 2010, 01:25:02 PM
Lemmings are lemmings, country is unimportant.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Shuffler on December 13, 2010, 01:26:42 PM
This question must be for the win the warzz types. :)
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: LLogann on December 13, 2010, 01:39:47 PM
All of my spies say this very thing!!!   :aok

When you switch sides a lot, you will learn on every country channel that "we" suck, that "we" do not pork, and that "they" show us what organization really means while "we" are just furballing.


Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 13, 2010, 01:44:27 PM
Porking is useful, but boooring.


wrongway
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: kvuo75 on December 13, 2010, 05:09:54 PM
Porking is useful, but boooring.


wrongway

you are correct!


i spent my first 2 years in this game porking ords and troops. I've done my share!

plus, on the flipside, you take out ords, they quit bringing bombers. I like shooting down bombers.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: VonKost on December 13, 2010, 05:14:14 PM
We fly missions to hit strats because it's what the big birds did. I know the impact can not be that big, but it really does not matter. If we need supplies or GV's or something, the 444th will help out, but bombing is the main deal for us whether it's winning the map or whatever.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: SunBat on December 13, 2010, 05:22:09 PM
I hope ThundrEgg and the 91st will keep doing what hes doing and wish EVERYONE will follow and see more of it. :salute

+1

 :salute Thndregg and the 91st.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: newz on December 14, 2010, 03:11:38 AM
Plus if they are driving M-3s with supplies all day, They ain't attacking you.
Where's the fun in that? I like when they are attacking.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: R 105 on December 14, 2010, 11:48:28 AM
Poking ords and resupplying a base to get it back up is boring. However it is like driving a garbage truck, No one wants to do it but it needs done. porking works out well for me as I have very low frame rate plus it helps out the guys I and with at the time.