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Title: Tron Legacy
Post by: AKKuya on December 17, 2010, 05:11:42 PM
Just watched the fim.  Totally awesome job on improving the original 1982 concept designs.  They were great for the limited capability of the early 1980's for a kid to see virtual reality on the big screen.  2010 CGI capability really immerses yourself withing the grid world. :aok
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 18, 2010, 04:06:06 AM
The Rope-A-Dope was cool, even told my fiance that they should go vertical against those light jets.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Gh0stFT on December 18, 2010, 02:08:53 PM
cant wait to watch it, unfortunately it opens 27.1.2011 here in europe :( so i have to wait *sigh*
i'm a big Tron and especialy Jeff Bridges Fan! I allready have the Soundtrack (made by Daft Punk)
and this is sounds great!! I cant wait to see it in 3D, because at home i'm a 3D fanatic, if possible
i watch everything availible in 3D, its so much better!

R
Gh0stFT
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 18, 2010, 02:16:17 PM
cant wait to watch it, unfortunately it opens 27.1.2011 here in europe :( so i have to wait *sigh*
i'm a big Tron and especialy Jeff Bridges Fan! I allready have the Soundtrack (made by Daft Punk)
and this is sounds great!! I cant wait to see it in 3D, because at home i'm a 3D fanatic, if possible
i watch everything availible in 3D, its so much better!

R
Gh0stFT

It is awesome in 3D. 

Since I am such a dick, I am going to spoil the ending.  Jeff Bridges isn't his father...


ack-ack
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 18, 2010, 02:32:17 PM
It is awesome in 3D. 

Since I am such a dick, I am going to spoil the ending.  Jeff Bridges isn't his father...


ack-ack

I think "The Dude" is his father.



wrongway
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: AKKuya on December 18, 2010, 03:46:42 PM
I think "The Dude" is his father.



wrongway

Are you sure it's not the Mapmaker with the little silver balls of light that's the father?  Green means go, red means stop, and yellow means go FAST!!!
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Tupac on December 18, 2010, 04:34:13 PM
I think "The Dude" is his father.



wrongway

"The Dude" abides........
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Wildcat1 on December 18, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
saw it last night at the nightcap showing, thought it was fantastic.

never saw the original tron, but from what i've heard about it, this film was a HUGE improvement. couldn't believe it was a disney film
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: maddafinga on December 18, 2010, 04:58:49 PM
"The Dude" abides........

Indeed.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Saxman on December 18, 2010, 11:11:46 PM
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GREAT movie. Although the original played the whole "Trapped in a Computer" thing with typical late-70s/early-80s cheese (but in a good way. I mean come on, you HAVE to agree that was all part of the fun of it!) Legacy was MUCH darker. I enjoyed the prophetic dialog of the original (IE, Dumont's concern that the more computers think, the less the people themselves will) but Legacy turned to something far more grim, touching on everything from the war of the big software conglomerates vs. open source, to genocidal despotism. And it worked. Unlike the Pirates sequels, which got progressively more bloated and overblown as they went along, Legacy used the story itself to create something more epic and generate higher stakes. The Master Control Program may have been bent on world domination by controlling the world's computers (a development which is hinted at early in the film, but largely forgotten) but Clu's plans are far more insidious. Master Control thought he could do a better job running the place,. However it's made clear that Clu doesn't just want to run the world, his plans are for outright conquest. The implications of a being desiring absolute perfection being unleashed on the imperfect, real, world are never far from the forefront of the plot. This is where Legacy's story greatly improved on the original; Tron largely set aside the darker and wider-ranging plans of Master Control, and focused its attention on the efforts of Tron and Flynn to bring freedom to the Grid. Legacy never lets you forget that Clu's plans put humanity ITSELF at risk.

That's not to say it was absolutely perfect, as some elements of the plot became obvious. After a certain point it was pretty clear who Rinzler REALLY was, and Quorra's secret could be seen coming as well. However it was still just FUN watching these events unfold.

Bridges in particular played a great dual role as Kevin Flynn and Clu. It was interesting seeing the grown-up Flynn. He was no longer the guy Lora Banes (played by Cindy Morgan in the original Tron) described as all his friends being fourteen years old. Bridges gave him just the right touch of Dudish daffiness, but tempered it with much more maturity. You could BELIEVE the awe that Programs--even Clu's own minions--held for him as their creator. As for Clu himself, there was a menace to him that the Master Control utterly lacked. Bridges practically radiated the instability and rage of a disillusioned zealot married to a dangerous charisma, making Flynn's flippant "Greetings, Programs!" something altogether more sinister. He was a being who thought he was betrayed, who believed wholeheartedly in something only to think he was seeing it taken away from him, and was determined to take what he thought was his rightful place in the world. There was certainly a touch of the Third Reich in Clu's ambitions, right down to the genocide of the ISOs, for which he laid the blame for destroying the perfection of what he was attempting to create.

Garrett Hedlund did a respectable job as Flynn's son Sam, paralleling his father's initial arrival on the Grid with the same sense of disbelief. Hedlund also did well early in the film projecting the same immaturity Bridges brought to Flynn in the original, and he matured well over the course of the film from the directionless rebel into a warrior and a man ready to take responsibility in his life. Olivia Wilde, meanwhile, seems to be one of those polarizing actors that people either love her hate (although I suspect most of the "Hate" crowd is due to her taking over the role of the resident hot doctor from Jennifer Morrison on House). Personally, I greatly enjoyed the childlike qualities of Quorra, and the wonder she expressed when asking Sam about things so simple we take for granted in the real world, such as the sun, and her mistaken belief that author Jules Verne was still alive when Sam mentions "knowing" Verne (in reference to his writings). Wilde also proved apt at handling the physical demands of her role, and I had no problems believing her as a badass warrior chick.

Special props to Michael Sheen as the eccentric Program, Castor, who for a relatively small role may have had one of the film's most charismatic and memorable performances.

The visuals were INCREDIBLE, updated to the 21st century while still remaining true to their origins. The first look at the updated Recognizers blew me away, and the new lightcycles were very nicely done. The little hints to the original film with the tanks visible at times in the background, and the appearance of the classic lightcycle further helped tie the look in to the first film. I GREATLY enjoyed the lightjet fight (and my first thought when Quorra said they needed to get their heavier ship behind the lighter jets was that rope. I'm sure the SAPP guys are grinning ear to ear on that) and this was a great addition to the universe of Tron. Also, the effects crew did an EXCEPTIONAL job on the age-regression work on Jeff Bridges for Clu, as well as the brief look at Boxleitner as Tron in the flashback sequences. This could open up new ground in film-making.

Critics haven't been particularly kind to it. However from time to time there are movies that the critics just don't seem to get, and I firmly believe that this is one of them. The movie ultimately does what it sets out to do.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Muzzy on December 18, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
All I can say if she can pull a rope maneuver like that, I'll gun for Olivia Wilde any day of the week.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Plawranc on December 18, 2010, 11:37:54 PM
When I saw that Rope, I laughed so loud the Movie police shone the torch of death at me  :D
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Karnak on December 19, 2010, 01:12:44 AM
The Rope-A-Dope was cool, even told my fiance that they should go vertical against those light jets.

ack-ack
I leaned over and told the co-worker I saw it with that it was a rope-a-dope.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Saxman on December 19, 2010, 11:17:08 AM
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Thinking about the end of this movie, they DEFINITELY left it open for another sequel. The Grid is backed up, Tron's ultimate fate is not definitively clear, and Flynn's commentary on the ISOs indicated there are serious ramifications to Quorra's presence in the real world and her implied budding relationship with Sam (I dug the little smile he gave when he watched Sam and Quorra bonding on the solar sailor). The question is, do they start on it right away or wait another 20 years? ;)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Wildcat1 on December 19, 2010, 12:28:33 PM
I leaned over and told the co-worker I saw it with that it was a rope-a-dope.

same here :lol
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Kermit de frog on December 19, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Indeed.

 :lol  I think I'll watch that old film.

Daft Punk's music was the perfect choice to compose the soundtrack for this film.  The more I listen to the soundtrack, the more I want to watch the film!  I am definitely looking forward to watching this film, so I do appreciate the spoiler alert warnings.  :)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Sabre on December 20, 2010, 01:59:29 PM
Saw it yesterday.  I very much enjoyed it, both for the nostagia factor and as a good movie in its own right.  My kids, who've never seen the original, also really enjoyed it, which says a lot in my opinion.  Good visuals, good story, decent acting.  I give it :aok :aok
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: IamSalem on December 23, 2010, 04:11:50 PM
I enjoyed it alot. Never saw the original, but this was really really cool. And I think I am in love...

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/IamSalem/580quorra.jpg)




/Drool...
Title: Re: Tron Legacy
Post by: Saxman on December 23, 2010, 10:40:41 PM
Olivia Wilde was REALLY hot in this. Also dug the Sirens.