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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 18, 2010, 04:43:15 PM
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http://www.davidpalermo.com/data/slideshow/4/index.html (http://www.davidpalermo.com/data/slideshow/4/index.html)
Looks pretty good.
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Wow.. That's the coolest thing I've seen all day.. :aok
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Wow.. That's the coolest thing I've seen all day.. :aok
+1 This :aok
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what is the piping on the roof? O2?
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I hit my page up button to try and get a better look at the #1 engine... :confused:
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I hit my page up button to try and get a better look at the #1 engine... :confused:
I had to resist my impulse to try to move my head position around to get better views.
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Very nice, thanks for sharing. :D
A lot of cockpit space in that B-29. :banana:
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what is the piping on the roof? O2?
I believe it is.
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Swing around to the right to see the Flight Engineers station. All of the engine controls are back there.
How did the pilot adjust power?
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B29=ugly
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Swing around to the right to see the Flight Engineers station. All of the engine controls are back there.
How did the pilot adjust power?
By giving orders to the Flight Engineer.
But I guess the big levers labeled "throttles" to the left of the pilots seat did work too...
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what is the piping on the roof? O2?
I believe the larger overhead lines are actually for heated air, to keep the windows clear. With a pressuized cabin, window condinsation and frosting were a common problem.
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By giving orders to the Flight Engineer.
But I guess the big levers labeled "throttles" to the left of the pilots seat did work too...
D'oh. I was looking for throttles on the center console.
Still, the engineer station appears to have all three power controls (throttle, prop pitch and ...?). What was the pilot controlling?
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D'oh. I was looking for throttles on the center console.
Still, the engineer station appears to have all three power controls (throttle, prop pitch and ...?). What was the pilot controlling?
Trim, elevaters, airlerons and so on. The FE was indeed responsible for the engines. I hope someone can chime in with the exact procedures.
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Hooked me all the way from the couch, saw it on my phone and came to the computer to see em. Nice. :mad:
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Baumer you are correct being a pressurized hull the wind screens needed to be heated at high altitude. I actually got to sit in the Enola Gay's Pilot seat when it was in WP AFB Ohio. The wings were still in crates next to the main hull which was open to the public at the time the year was 1964.
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Wasn't there a hand operated gunsight for the bombardier?
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Heh, Me too Karnak. My head was bobbing all over the place trying to get views. Dang TrackIR!
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I had to resist my impulse to try to move my head position around to get better views.
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Does anyone else believe that there will be lots of PW dealt out, especially in a HO attack vs the B29's? :)
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B-29 had 4 remote controlled turrets carrying 50 cals and a manned tail position with 2 50 cals and a 20MM. The forward top turret had up to 4 50 cals all other turrets had 2 50's each
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Does anyone else believe that there will be lots of PW dealt out, especially in a HO attack vs the B29's? :)
On the same note.. Anyone know what the result of loosing cabin pressure was back then? :headscratch:
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On the same note.. Anyone know what the result of loosing cabin pressure was back then? :headscratch:
Didn't happen in combat they let the pressure out prior to bomb run for safety purposes.
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Does anyone else believe that there will be lots of PW dealt out, especially in a HO attack vs the B29's? :)
Yes :aok The Japanese seemed to think it was the smart way to attack a B29.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks1.jpg)
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks.jpg)
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Baumer you are correct being a pressurized hull the wind screens needed to be heated at high altitude. I actually got to sit in the Enola Gay's Pilot seat when it was in WP AFB Ohio. The wings were still in crates next to the main hull which was open to the public at the time the year was 1964.
Enola Gay was never at WPAFB. I think you are talking about Bockscar.
http://www.gthunt.com/smith1.htm
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B-29 had 4 remote controlled turrets carrying 50 cals and a manned tail position with 2 50 cals and a 20MM. The forward top turret had up to 4 50 cals all other turrets had 2 50's each
The 20mm Package I believe was only on the later models that had only the tail guns for defence. Not 100% sure on that one though.
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Didn't happen in combat they let the pressure out prior to bomb run for safety purposes.
Ahhhhhh.. Thank you sir.. :salute
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By giving orders to the Flight Engineer.
But I guess the big levers labeled "throttles" to the left of the pilots seat did work too...
:rofl :rofl :rofl "
That's one heck of an elevator trim wheel. Can anyone read the "Flaps must be extended before ? takeoff " Can't make out next to last word.
<S> Oz
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Yes :aok The Japanese seemed to think it was the smart way to attack a B29.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks1.jpg)
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B29Attacks.jpg)
LOL.
Seems the real pilots were much smarter than our AH ones. The AH version of that diagram would look much different.
This tour I'm flying a lot, and I guess about 80% of all attacks on me came from the rear quarter, even if the fighter had the chance to get into a much better position.
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Very cool. :aok
Anyone know how many B29's we lost in the Pacific?
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Very cool. :aok
Anyone know how many B29's we lost in the Pacific?
400 or so
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That was cool. :aok
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Dat is a sexy plane, doesnt look too comfortable though :rofl :cheers:
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Iv'e been there. It's in the Udvar-Hazey Center, A branch of The National Air and Space Museum, just outside of Washington, D.C.
The B-29 is the Enola Gay. If you love aviation, you have to come here. It is amazing. Here are some of their main attratcions:
A Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird spyplane
A Concorde super-sonic airliner
A Northrop P-61C Blackwidow
A Vought F4U-1D Corsair
A Lockheed P-38J Lightning
An Arado Ar234 Blitz Bomber
And many others. Here is their website: http://www.nasm.si.edu/museum/udvarhazy/ (http://www.nasm.si.edu/museum/udvarhazy/)
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Wow all that room for blenders. :D
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Trim, elevaters, airlerons and so on. The FE was indeed responsible for the engines. I hope someone can chime in with the exact procedures.
I'm not sure of a B29, but my experience of 3 crew four engine heavy props are something like:-
FE controls start, and checks, under command from P1
Handling Pilot adjusts power during taxi.
FE checks mags, sets props, mixture, and cowl flaps, "E" handles if necessary etc.
Handling pilot sets take of power.
Engineer guards throttles, and trims take off power. Handling Pilot responsible for abort.
Climb, and cruise power set by Engineer at command of handling pilot.
Descent power reduced, and set by handling pilot.
Descent power trimmed by FE, and changes called by Handling Pilot to FE.
Approach, landing, and taxi power set by handling pilot.
NB:- Looks like enough room for a football match in there...! LOL
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Just doesn't compare to sitting in the real cockpit in person or speaking to a pilot for an hour about flying 'em :)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143232.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143233.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143231.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143230.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143229.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143228.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143227.jpg)
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:aok cool thread
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Just doesn't compare to sitting in the real cockpit in person or speaking to a pilot for an hour about flying 'em :)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143232.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143233.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143231.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143230.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143229.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143228.jpg)
(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/23510941/394143227.jpg)
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Frenchy, great photos.
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I may be wrong - but I think the fe's leavers are for increacing or decreacing the air cooler flaps and intakes for the engines - on teh ground they would have to be full open and as you climbed higher they would be closed to maintain optimal engine temp. . . but thats my guess.
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D'oh. I was looking for throttles on the center console.
Still, the engineer station appears to have all three power controls (throttle, prop pitch and ...?). What was the pilot controlling?
The pilots had throttles. For normal power changes the FE could do them but for critical situations, such as landing and takeoff, the pilot needs to have throttles in hand to make timely, precise power adjustments.