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Title: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 24, 2010, 07:39:06 PM
any one use these vr goggles?

if so, what are your opinions?

thanks!
http://www.edimensional.com/product_info.php?products_id=135
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Belial on December 24, 2010, 07:40:21 PM
Really surprised ace high was on the list
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Gaboon on December 24, 2010, 08:05:41 PM
I saw these being used in a video for a home built flight simulator. They took off the ear pieces and mounted the whole thing in a real pilots helmet. Track IR is supposed to be compatible with them also.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: TinmanX on December 24, 2010, 08:13:30 PM
Really surprised ace high was on the list
Why?
Aces High plays really well in 3D. Mainly it's just the cockpit you notice.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 24, 2010, 08:20:21 PM
well, i was thinking of a trackir, but then the though hit me.....if i got that, it'd be to try for a little more immersion...i suck bad enough that nothing's gonna help me....but to be able to "look around" rather than push a button.......the trackir i'd be only moving my head a little for the rearward look....i get the impression that with these, if i want to look up/back, that i really do look up/back?  THAT would be awesome stuff.......
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Dichotomy on December 24, 2010, 08:30:30 PM
pretty much the way TIR works for me Laverne
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Gaboon on December 24, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
No these are totally different than track IR these actually work as you move your head totally around to look back over your shoulder, up or down.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 24, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
No these are totally different than track IR these actually work as you move your head totally around to look back over your shoulder, up or down.

that's what i was hoping......so if i'm flying, and want to look down part the trailing edge of my wing, i'd really move my head like that, right?
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 24, 2010, 08:38:07 PM
pretty much the way TIR works for me Laverne
but if you turn your head all the way around, how do you know what you're missing on the monitor in front of ya?
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Gaboon on December 24, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
What your looking thru is the moniter. The set is equal to looking at a 62 inch moniter at 9 feet distance. The big set back is the resolution is only 640X480 16 million color.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: The Fugitive on December 24, 2010, 09:57:58 PM
Vulcan uses a set of those. CHECK OUT THESE LINKS (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=search2;params=YWR2YW5jZWR8J3wwfCJ8YnJkfCd8MTEsNjIsNDYxLDEwLDUwNCwxMywxOTUsOSw0MTIsMTcsMjg3LDQ0LDE4LDUxNiw3Nyw3MSwxMiw2MSw0MDYsNDEwLDE1LDEzNCw1MjMsNTIwLDQ0MCwxMzMsMTM1LDYwLDI3OCw0NTAsNDUyLDE5LDM2NCwzOTksNDM0fCJ8c2hvd19jb21wbGV0ZXwnfHwifHN1YmplY3Rfb25seXwnfHwifHNvcnR8J3xyZWxldmFuY2V8Inxzb3J0X2RpcnwnfGRlc2N8InxzZWFyY2h8J3xWUjkyMA==)
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 24, 2010, 11:16:48 PM
thank ya sir. i've been reading through some of the links.

 now here's another question.

 when one uses trakir, i presume that the user can only turn his head so far, and maintain sight of the monitor. so for instance, you may set it up so that if you move your head 15 degrees left, then you are looking over your left shoulder. is this correct?

 well.....now, take this thing, and disable its tracking ability, and use the trakir with it. since the monitor is now attached to your face(technically speaking), can the trakir now be set up in such a way as you can actually look over your shoulder to look over your shoulder?

 if vulcan happens upon this thread, any additional light he can shed would be awesome. i WISH i could justify spending the money on the set he has...but i'm still a poor guy.

 once i get past this, i'll probably try for the moving sim pit that i saw in a video linked into one of those threads........
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Scotch on December 24, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
I use my AoM issued beer goggles...
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Lusche on December 24, 2010, 11:21:48 PM
now here's another question.

 when one uses trakir, i presume that the user can only turn his head so far, and maintain sight of the monitor. so for instance, you may set it up so that if you move your head 15 degrees left, then you are looking over your left shoulder. is this correct?

 well.....now, take this thing, and disable its tracking ability, and use the trakir with it. since the monitor is now attached to your face(technically speaking), can the trakir now be set up in such a way as you can actually look over your shoulder to look over your shoulder?

You probably couldn't do that, because the TrackIr camera would lose track of the reflectors or clip. But why would you chose not to use the built in tracking ability of VR glasses?
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 24, 2010, 11:45:44 PM
You probably couldn't do that, because the TrackIr camera would lose track of the reflectors or clip. But why would you chose not to use the built in tracking ability of VR glasses?

the ones i linked in the thread apparently don't work all that well. at least not according to what i read in most of the links.

 when it comes down to it, i could possibly find a way to afford the ones vulcan uses, but i'm not sure i can justify them in my own mind right now.......not for that price.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: oakranger on December 25, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
So there is something like that out there.  i was wondering if where possible to play with a 3D headset
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: CAP1 on December 25, 2010, 11:58:16 AM
So there is something like that out there.  i was wondering if where possible to play with a 3D headset

this video was linked in another thread i looked at thanks to fugi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdwciVwKKDk

i noticed a vr-1440 mentioned, and vulcan mentioned a 3DOF system being older.....that they have a 6DOF....but i haven't been able to find that on the website....either of them.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: Dichotomy on December 25, 2010, 12:50:38 PM
but if you turn your head all the way around, how do you know what you're missing on the monitor in front of ya?


I don't.. it takes a bit to get used to but it became more natural over time.  I can turn my head about 15 degrees righ left up or down and see out the back.  I've also programmed my mini stick so I can slide left / right and or zoom forward / backward. 

Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: oakranger on December 25, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
this video was linked in another thread i looked at thanks to fugi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdwciVwKKDk

i noticed a vr-1440 mentioned, and vulcan mentioned a 3DOF system being older.....that they have a 6DOF....but i haven't been able to find that on the website....either of them.

Yea, i seen that before.  I give it 5-10 years before it gets better.
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: bcadoo on December 25, 2010, 02:03:12 PM
I'm thinking one of these will work well with Track IR

(http://images.gizmag.com/hero/toob-dome-screen-1.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone use these?
Post by: SectorNine50 on December 25, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
I was almost about to pull the trigger on a set of these (or the Wrap 920's by Vuzix), but the resolution made me delay with the rumors that the Wrap 920's would have HD resolutions.  Turns out the specs changed on release of the Wraps, I guess they couldn't get the cost down enough.

The COOLEST thing I've seen is their "Augmented Reality" line, or AR for short.

http://www.vuzix.com/consumer/products_wrap920ar.html

They reference use with Autodesk, and I'm sure you can imagine how cool this will be in the future.