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Title: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: jolly22 on December 25, 2010, 09:05:46 PM
I got one!! YAY:D

Now, anyone have:
1. fifa 2010
2. test drive unlimited (awesome game)
3. ace comabt 6?  (lots of controls to do, but i like it.)

I plan on getting black ops and then xbox live after the year, so maybe we can hook up and play some?
Title: Re: New Xbox 260 for christmas!
Post by: 321BAR on December 25, 2010, 09:06:18 PM
worse than the 360 then? :rofl
Title: Re: New Xbox 260 for christmas!
Post by: jolly22 on December 25, 2010, 09:07:18 PM
worse than the 360 then? :rofl

fixed :noid noob....
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 25, 2010, 09:24:50 PM
I got one!! YAY:D

Now, anyone have:
1. fifa 2010
2. test drive unlimited (awesome game)
3. ace comabt 6?  (lots of controls to do, but i like it.)

I plan on getting black ops and then xbox live after the year, so maybe we can hook up and play some?

should of got a ps3 instead, we got a HUGE line of new exclusive games coming out in 2011. and its overall the better console. could sell your 360 and get enough for a 160gb ps3 :)
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 25, 2010, 09:26:19 PM
should of got a ps3 instead, we got a HUGE line of new exclusive games coming out in 2011. and its overall the better console. could sell your 360 and get enough for a 160gb ps3 :)

Thems fighting words
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 25, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Thems fighting words

fighting words that the ps3 can easily back up.  :t
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: JOACH1M on December 25, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Good choice ps3 controllers are crap, and there network shutsdown sometimes
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 25, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
Good choice ps3 controllers are crap, and there network shutsdown sometimes

 how are they crap? 360s controllers are fat and clumsy, and psn doesnt "shutdown". what are you talking about?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 25, 2010, 09:57:41 PM
fighting words that the ps3 can easily back up.  :t

I've got both, and I'd choose the xbox every time
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Bodhi on December 25, 2010, 09:58:36 PM
fighting words that the ps3 can easily back up.  :t

I own both and while the PS3 has some prettier graphics, I far prefer the game play and XBox Live to Sony's game play and network.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 25, 2010, 10:00:19 PM
I've got both, and I'd choose the xbox every time
i owned 2 360s before i owned my ps3, both crashed. one to red ring, the other just stoped working. finally got a ps3 and its easily the better gaming system. corrently i have a "supercharged" 500gb ps3 that will kick the snot out of any failbox that tries to stand with it. :rock
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: fbWldcat on December 25, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
Xbox has better games while the PS3 has better graphics. Both have network failures at times, but both are still fun. PS3 controllers take some getting used to but once they are mastered, you are unbeatable :P (except by another of the PS3 clan). I've found the Xbox controllers to be much more resilient than the Playstation DualShock controllers (I hated losing, ah, those dents in the walls bring back fond memories of times past).

(This is highly opinionated and not based on data whatsoever).
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 25, 2010, 10:21:22 PM
i owned 2 360s before i owned my ps3, both crashed. one to red ring, the other just stoped working. finally got a ps3 and its easily the better gaming system. corrently i have a "supercharged" 500gb ps3 that will kick the snot out of any failbox that tries to stand with it. :rock

What do you need 500gigs of memory for? I've got a 250, and have all my music and have used about 20 gigs of space. Both of our responses are biased, and we wont ever agree, but they both have their ups and downs.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 25, 2010, 10:24:01 PM
Xbox has better games while the PS3 has better graphics. Both have network failures at times, but both are still fun. PS3 controllers take some getting used to but once they are mastered, you are unbeatable :P (except by another of the PS3 clan). I've found the Xbox controllers to be much more resilient than the Playstation DualShock controllers (I hated losing, ah, those dents in the walls bring back fond memories of times past).

(This is highly opinionated and not based on data whatsoever).

actually, the PS3 has more exclusives than 360 does. which all of them are ether rated within the same level or higher then 360's 3 exclusive games.

what sucks tho is that the ps3 suffers on multi-platform games because of the 360's lack of ability. game developers have constantly said that the reason why the games are coded on the 360 and ported to ps3 is because the 360 cant support the level of design or coding the ps3 has.

only way i see that the 360 was succesful is because its a cheap console, and microsoft has shelled out major $$$ in advertisement deals, etc to put the 360 in the limelight.

and recently its been exposed that microsoft has been paying companies to sabotage ps3 games when it comes to mutli-plats. the first developers to come forward and expose this was the former infinity ward. who stated that activision took huge payoffs from microsoft to make the ps3 versions of COD's online have lag problems/matchmaking issues, and other nagging annoyances. otherwise the 360 version is "perfect".
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Dichotomy on December 25, 2010, 10:26:37 PM
There are games other than AH  :headscratch:
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: fbWldcat on December 25, 2010, 10:27:08 PM
There are games other than AH  :headscratch:

Just one or two. Nothing to write home about.

Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: JOACH1M on December 25, 2010, 11:05:06 PM
how are they crap? 360s controllers are fat and clumsy, and psn doesnt "shutdown". what are you talking about?  :headscratch:
I have both and ps3 controllers always break, and they are odd to hold, not to long ago psn shutdown for like a day
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 25, 2010, 11:54:30 PM
I have both and ps3 controllers always break, and they are odd to hold, not to long ago psn shutdown for like a day

it shut down for a major update, and it was only for like 3 hrs. it shut down so it could upload hulu to its inventory along with netflix, and to come out with a whole new design.

and ive had the same ps3 controller for 4 yrs now, doesnt even have a scratch on it.

and they feel more comfortable to hold for a longer period of time than those fat failbox controllers.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: mcboi on December 26, 2010, 09:37:35 AM
shoulda gotten a wii  :noid
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 26, 2010, 10:25:05 AM
Seems to me that there is such a following of each system. That if everybody stopped making "exclusive" games. Both gaming platforms would benefit.
My son just got the 360 to replace the one that was stolen from his college apartment last year. He was on the fence between the two over which one he wanted and would have been just as happy with either one. The only differences were that has still has his 360 games cause they only stole the system. And PS3 has blue ray.

Well. We dont have any blueray disks. So that really wasnt an issue. In the end it came down to which was going to get the most use. Well he already had all those games And he ended up getting the 360 originally over the PS3 because it had the longest list of games that he wanted to play. Which really should be THE determining factor to purchasing any gaming system.

And he has enough of friends with the PS3 that they bring their systems over each others homes so they can play the games that the other doesn't support.

"This one" is better "That one" is better is all a load of cr@p. They both play games. They both have ups and downs. If the parent companies of these systems relly felt so strongly that their system was better. Both would stop making "exclusive" games and let the chips fall where they may. Though in the end they, and the companies that make the games themselves would all benefit.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 26, 2010, 10:26:22 AM
shoulda gotten a wii  :noid

LMAO Wife picked up a wii a year or so ago. that remained interesting for about 3 months. Now it just sits collecting dust along side the TV
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 26, 2010, 10:52:56 AM
it shut down for a major update, and it was only for like 3 hrs. it shut down so it could upload hulu to its inventory along with netflix, and to come out with a whole new design.

and ive had the same ps3 controller for 4 yrs now, doesnt even have a scratch on it.

and they feel more comfortable to hold for a longer period of time than those fat failbox controllers.

I've got big hands, and the xbox controller is slot more comfortable o hold for me.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: fbWldcat on December 26, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
LMAO Wife picked up a wii a year or so ago. that remained interesting for about 3 months. Now it just sits collecting dust along side the TV

Mine lasted two days... poor thing, I always think it is staring at me with that big red dot of longing... as I blast away zombies and mutants... on my PS3... :)
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 26, 2010, 12:41:40 PM
I wouldn't pay for any box stuffed with several years old technology and pita style controllers.  :devil
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: bagrat on December 26, 2010, 12:43:20 PM
shoulda gotten a wii  :noid

I got a wii for christmas :noid I think of exchanging it for a 360, but I've had one before and it broke. I have yet to hear anybody say they were very amused by wii, actually anyone I know to even have one only uses it as a paper weight. 
 Anybody else have one and know any great games to play on it?

1 good thing is a new zelda comes out in 2011 woop woop!  
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Dichotomy on December 26, 2010, 12:59:41 PM
Nintendo is still filling the market for the 12 and under crowd imo. 
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Motherland on December 26, 2010, 01:01:20 PM
In all side-to-side comparisons I've seen, the Xbox 360's graphics trump the PS3's by a fairly pathetic margin.
I don't get involved in console wars generally because they're even more stupid than OS wars, but from what I understand the PS3 has a bunch complex, impressive sounding hardware that in reality is nearly useless, which is why the Xbox 360, in practice, generally produces better results.

From personal experience, the online experience is better on the 360- almost no one has a PS3, and, after all, the only point to having a console is to play with your friends, as console games are crap.
Also, the Playstation controller is way too small and the joystick positioning is terrible.

Wii may as well be the best option due to the fact that there's more 'party' games that are fun to play with multiple people that are physically together, also due to all of the just-plain-fun Nintendo games available for it.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 26, 2010, 01:27:10 PM
Wii definitely has more family games then 360 and PS3. If you have kids, then a Wii is probably the best.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: JOACH1M on December 26, 2010, 02:04:10 PM
Nintendo is still filling the market for the 12 and under crowd imo. 
DS and DSI, my little cousins can't get off those things, next to there iPod touches
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: mcboi on December 26, 2010, 02:35:39 PM
no one amused by the wii? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? have you ever plated wii resort totally wasted. it is the only reason i even play the thing lmao plus i got the kids goldeneye for x-mas so i can wear em out on there  :rock
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Melvin on December 26, 2010, 02:45:35 PM
Got the kids (9 and 6) a wii for Christmas. I figured Mario Kart was more appropriate than a zombie massacre.  :lol

They're loving it, but does anybody know of any titles that a grown-up might enjoy? I figure on getting Goldeneye (always had a soft spot for that one) I saw Black Ops is out for the wii as well. Any reviews on that one?

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 26, 2010, 02:52:02 PM
I played CoD 4 on the Wii and I wasnt impressed. Wii sports seems to be pretty popular with everyone, my dad is 60 and he loves to play sports resort.

(also you might enjoy Mario kart, it's really addicting.)
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Melvin on December 26, 2010, 02:57:37 PM
Yeah I've been having some fun w/ Mario Kart too. In fact, the wife is on her way home with another controller and steering wheel set-up.  :lol

Time for some head-to-head action this afternoon.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 26, 2010, 03:14:43 PM
Just keep the strap on the wiimote on, my friend put one through his brand new 42" samsung. He was NOT happy
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 26, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
In all side-to-side comparisons I've seen, the Xbox 360's graphics trump the PS3's by a fairly pathetic margin.
I don't get involved in console wars generally because they're even more stupid than OS wars, but from what I understand the PS3 has a bunch complex, impressive sounding hardware that in reality is nearly useless, which is why the Xbox 360, in practice, generally produces better results.

From personal experience, the online experience is better on the 360- almost no one has a PS3, and, after all, the only point to having a console is to play with your friends, as console games are crap.
Also, the Playstation controller is way too small and the joystick positioning is terrible.

Wii may as well be the best option due to the fact that there's more 'party' games that are fun to play with multiple people that are physically together, also due to all of the just-plain-fun Nintendo games available for it.

LOL dear god please tell me you did not just say the 360 has better graphics than ps3. if you did, all credibility of that whole paragraph just got flushed down the toilet. all of it.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 26, 2010, 05:12:34 PM
LOL dear god please tell me you did not just say the 360 has better graphics than ps3. if you did, all credibility of that whole paragraph just got flushed down the toilet. all of it.

Killzone 2 definitely had the best graphics I had ever seen on a game, and Killzone 3 is the reason I kept my ps3.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: JOACH1M on December 26, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
LOL dear god please tell me you did not just say the 360 has better graphics than ps3. if you did, all credibility of that whole paragraph just got flushed down the toilet. all of it.
Dude xbox DOES have better graphics considering I have both, I only got a ps3 to watch movies off Netflix and because it's jailbroken so I can do challenge and derank lobbies in CoD
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Motherland on December 26, 2010, 07:01:21 PM
LOL dear god please tell me you did not just say the 360 has better graphics than ps3. if you did, all credibility of that whole paragraph just got flushed down the toilet. all of it.
For the most part, they're nearly indistinguishable, on some games the PS3 does better and on some the Xbox 360 does better.
On some, the Xbox 360 blows the PS3 out of the water. I've noticed that most of the time the PS3 seems to use lower resolution bitmaps. Just look at Gran Turismo 5.

If you'd like to post evidence to the contrary, you're welcome to.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 12:23:06 AM
For the most part, they're nearly indistinguishable, on some games the PS3 does better and on some the Xbox 360 does better.
On some, the Xbox 360 blows the PS3 out of the water. I've noticed that most of the time the PS3 seems to use lower resolution bitmaps. Just look at Gran Turismo 5.

If you'd like to post evidence to the contrary, you're welcome to.
god, you are so wrong. if your talking about multi-platform games, then yes the 360's graphics are better in that department and ive allready stated why. look at red dead redemption for example, on 360 it could go to 1080p, but on ps3 it was only for 720p. the reason for this is because of what i stated before, the 360 cannot support the type of graphics ps3 can, so pretty much 360's 1080p graphics would look like 720p on ps3, but if you were to take EXCLUSIVES, and compare them 1v1, the ps3 would come out ontop. like say, halo3 vs resistance 2. or gears vs killzone 3. or forza vs gran turismo 5. or better yet, all the 360 exclusives vs uncharted2. uncharted 2 truly symbolizes the ps3's potential in graphics. and we're still getting BETTER graphics. like i said the only thing the 360 has over ps3 is multi-platform gaming. other than that the ps3 is the better machine hands down.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 12:24:41 AM
Dude xbox DOES have better graphics considering I have both, I only got a ps3 to watch movies off Netflix and because it's jailbroken so I can do challenge and derank lobbies in CoD
glad you mentioned call of duty.

remember way back when modern warfare came out? infinity ward released a statement which outraged the failbox fanboys and made me laugh. they flat out said the ps3 had more potential,better graphics, more coding space, and was more reliable than the xbox360. you can find the article on gamestop if you dont believe me.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 27, 2010, 07:34:08 AM
glad you mentioned call of duty.

remember way back when modern warfare came out? infinity ward released a statement which outraged the failbox fanboys and made me laugh. they flat out said the ps3 had more potential,better graphics, more coding space, and was more reliable than the xbox360. you can find the article on gamestop if you dont believe me.

Why is it so important to you for one gaming system to be better then the other?. You collecting a paycheck from Sony?
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: mcboi on December 27, 2010, 08:55:17 AM
Ahhh after all the defending of the PS3 i came across tyrannis's picture on the net

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a17/mcboi85/PS3-guy.jpg)
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 01:29:20 PM
Why is it so important to you for one gaming system to be better then the other?. You collecting a paycheck from Sony?

i have a passionint hate for the failbox after i was foolish enough to buy 2 of them, with which both became a total waste of money do to being a crappy machine. (one got red ring 2 months after playing, the other i bought to replace the first, but it died from "overheating" a weak after i got it!)
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 27, 2010, 01:31:14 PM
i have a passionint hate for the failbox after i was foolish enough to buy 2 of them, with which both became a total waste of money do to being a crappy machine. (one got red ring 2 months after playing, the other i bought to replace the first, but it died from "overheating" a weak after i got it!)

I've had mine for 2 years, and have never had a problem
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: fbWldcat on December 27, 2010, 01:44:09 PM
I have a passionate hate for the failbox after I was foolish enough to buy 2 of them, both of them proved to be crappy machines. (One got the red ring 2 months after playing, the other I bought to replace the first, but it died from "overheating" a week after I got it!)

Fixed. People might listen to your arguments more if you improved your spelling. That is true for a forum or a resume' for your job. Just a heads up... (Grammar Nazi here).

Anyway, both problems are fixable. The RROD is fixable by overheating the Xbox. You simply wrap a ton of towels over it and make it run. You can also take the machine apart and add new heat sinks, which is what I believe I heard causes the RROD. Overheating... Just let it cool off? :headscratch:

There shouldn't be any damage to either machine and they should still run fine.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Dichotomy on December 27, 2010, 01:46:42 PM
I've purchased a total of at least three over the years.  Never a single problem with one
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: fbWldcat on December 27, 2010, 01:50:48 PM
I can go ahead and post a reference video just in case someone has the problem. The towel method is proven, but there is also the penny trick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsz0lNJ6JrQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsz0lNJ6JrQ) This is pretty much step-by-step.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 02:06:13 PM
Fixed. People might listen to your arguments more if you improved your spelling. That is true for a forum or a resume' for your job. Just a heads up... (Grammar Nazi here).

Anyway, both problems are fixable. The RROD is fixable by overheating the Xbox. You simply wrap a ton of towels over it and make it run. You can also take the machine apart and add new heat sinks, which is what I believe I heard causes the RROD. Overheating... Just let it cool off? :headscratch:

There shouldn't be any damage to either machine and they should still run fine.
thats not the point, the point is m$ was in such a rush to push the 360 out before the ps3 that they sold a crappy machine with many problems. lets count them down.

-red ring of death.
-overheating problems
-if you sit your 360 sideways, it can scratch your disk(they were sued over this)
-chose hi-def instead of blu-ray.
-still has an actual popout disc holder. LOL.
-pay for online
-no web browser(like the ps3 has)
-some people reported the overheating problem was so bad there 360s were catching on fire

all these problems lead to m$ giving the failbox a 2 yr warrenty. TWO YEARS.

i'll name off the ps3 problems too, just so ppl dont scream "your biased!"

ps3 problems were only

-the blue light on the ps3 which signifys the "blu ray" is working would sometimes not come on. this was fixed with a simple hardware update.
- older model "phat" ps3s couldnt connect to the internet due to a clock bug. this was fixed 2 days after it began occuring with a simple systems update downloaded via internet.


and you say the 360 is the better machine?  :headscratch:


Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 27, 2010, 02:19:32 PM
They will sell you a separate 3 year warranty on top of the 2 year manufactures (spelling?) warranty.

In 2013, it's time for me to buy a new xbox.

Also: kinect is 100 times cooler than move.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 02:26:49 PM
They will sell you a separate 3 year warranty on top of the 2 year manufactures (spelling?) warranty.

In 2013, it's time for me to buy a new xbox.

Also: kinect is 100 times cooler than move.
not really, kinect is huge and clumbersome.

i love how m$ has kinect in the limelight like its the most advanced motion control on earth, yet the eyetoy from sony was out for the ps2 and the playstation eye for ps3 before xbox(and nintendo) even got into the motion capturing business.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: spitfreak01 on December 27, 2010, 03:02:52 PM
SCREW THAT!

i play games! not consoles!
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: redman555 on December 27, 2010, 03:10:03 PM
Bet you 100 bucks your C***Box will break within 1 year.


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tupac on December 27, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
Bet you 100 bucks your C***Box will break within 1 year.


-BigBOBCH

I've had it for 2 without a complaint,  and if it does break its under warranty
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: jolly22 on December 27, 2010, 05:06:52 PM
Well back to the topic....If you dont have Ace combat 6, you should really get it, It's pretty fun in multiplayer...

Add me: JRjolly1
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Motherland on December 27, 2010, 07:34:00 PM
forza vs gran turismo 5
GT5 looks like arse compared to Forza 3, and Forza 3 is much older.
My Xbox 360 has lasted me at least a year now, and it doesn't show any signs of degradation.
Don't understand the hostility over the consoles, though.

>-still has an actual popout disc holder. LOL.
How in the world is this a 'problem'?!
Better let PC manufacturers know.
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 07:43:54 PM
GT5 looks like arse compared to Forza 3, and Forza 3 is much older.
My Xbox 360 has lasted me at least a year now, and it doesn't show any signs of degradation.
Don't understand the hostility over the consoles, though.

>-still has an actual popout disc holder. LOL.
How in the world is this a 'problem'?!
Better let PC manufacturers know.

opinion=/=fact

and good for you, your one of the few lucky ones, buts its been recorded and widely known the problems of the failbox,

and its problem because consoles are supposed to be ADVANCING and becoming better and better. ps3 and wii dont use pop out disk holders, they got rid of those. but xbox360 does, and we're supposed to consider this failbox "high-tech"? nope. playstation 3 is the future :)
Title: Re: New Xbox 360 for christmas!
Post by: Motherland on December 27, 2010, 07:45:09 PM
and its problem because consoles are supposed to be ADVANCING and becoming better and better. ps3 and wii dont use pop out disk holders, they got rid of those. but xbox360 does, and we're supposed to consider this failbox "high-tech"? nope. playstation 3 is the future :)
How is a diskless tray more high-tech than a disk tray?
Nintendo consoles never had a disk tray, the Gamecube was a pop-open deal.

Also, I don't see how you could say GT5 looks better than Forza III.
GT5
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6746/gt5p.png)

Forza III
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7971/forza3.png)

Some of the car detailing looks better on GT5, but the rest of it is crap. This isn't really the Playstation's fault, though.
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/503/gt5standard.jpg)