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Title: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 03:31:10 AM
ive noticed that on allmost all my sorties in p47s or p40Es ive had atleast one gun shot out. my standing amount right now is 3 guns disabled in a p40E.


has anyone ever had there plane completly de-gunned?(have all guns shot out/disabled)
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Post by: Melvin on December 27, 2010, 03:44:38 AM
Nope.
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Post by: guncrasher on December 27, 2010, 04:12:27 AM
I had a spit9 with only 1 cannon left.  but  I've had buffs with no guns.

semp
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Post by: fbWldcat on December 27, 2010, 05:44:40 AM
Pretty hard to have all your guns knocked out without your wings flying off. In which case... in some craft... yes, I have had all my guns "removed" before.  :neener:
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Post by: 5PointOh on December 27, 2010, 06:08:02 AM
Had a 51B with all guns taken out...
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Post by: Strip on December 27, 2010, 07:43:14 AM
Had a 51B with all guns taken out...

X2

Strip
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: maddafinga on December 27, 2010, 07:48:03 AM
It happens sometimes in the K4 due to a really committed headon shooter or to getting a bad angle attacking a buff.  Usually you'll get oiled or a radiator hit along with having all your guns knocked out.  It's rare, usually you'll keep at least one bb shooter, but it does happen.  Only 3 guns and they're all grouped together.  I'd bet it happens to La5s and 7s also.
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: The Fugitive on December 27, 2010, 08:16:51 AM
Nope, but I avoid going head on with anyone. Learn some ACM's and never loose a gun
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Post by: infowars on December 27, 2010, 08:38:46 AM
My Yak only has two guns and on occasion I'll lose both...  Then I try to slice their tail section with my prop...lol
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Post by: Dr_Death8 on December 27, 2010, 11:47:23 AM
I usually end up losing guns in the LAs when I get hit in 'em. :salute
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Post by: fbWldcat on December 27, 2010, 12:54:58 PM
Nope, but I avoid going head on with anyone. Learn some ACM's and never loose a gun

But Fugi!!! All those poor newbies who can't hammerhead, snap roll or even a Chandelle!
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: maddafinga on December 27, 2010, 01:10:44 PM
Nope, but I avoid going head on with anyone. Learn some ACM's and never loose a gun

I don't chose to go headon with anyone, but you surely know as well as I do that a dedicated headon shooter will land some hits on you, no matter what.  You just can't avoid every single one.  It's way easier for them to yank into your nose and spray than it is for you to keep avoiding them just right every time.  I don't line up for headon shots by any means. 

I do know some acm by the way.
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Post by: AWwrgwy on December 27, 2010, 01:52:33 PM
My Yak only has two guns and on occasion I'll lose both...  Then I try to slice their tail section with my prop...lol

+1 on the Yak9T

And I have gotten a "maneuver" kill afterwards as well.



wrongway
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: DOUG on December 27, 2010, 03:14:39 PM
had 5 of 6 50s shot out in -1 hog, then ran outta ammo, wings held together :neener:
Nope, but I avoid going head on with anyone. Learn some ACM's and never loose a gun
   heh, wth does HO have to do with anything? Wasnt a single HO involved. What a weird statement :headscratch:
elfy
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: The Fugitive on December 27, 2010, 04:12:47 PM
I don't chose to go headon with anyone, but you surely know as well as I do that a dedicated headon shooter will land some hits on you, no matter what.  You just can't avoid every single one.  It's way easier for them to yank into your nose and spray than it is for you to keep avoiding them just right every time.  I don't line up for headon shots by any means. 

I do know some acm by the way.


All I was saying is that as long as you fight a fight, not just spray and pray, there is very little chance for anyone to land hits on you. Look at some of the top stick flying. Think back when you had a shot at them. They get skinny at just the right moment, the turn the right way to deny you the shot you were going for, and they work to force you into a spot that if you are not good at getting skinny they WILL fill you full of holes. 

A very large percent of the threads are kids asking naive questions...

total de-gunning.... ya it happens, mostly do to being stupid and getting yourself in the line of fire.

which plane do you shoot first..... the one in my sites! then move because 6 other bozo's are trying to jump your ass! It's call "target of opportunity"

which plane gives you fits.... anyone thats flown well! come on! The Spit16 is a great plane, but if 20 dweebs come at me the odds are still in my favor, but send just one of those "brits" that fly them all the time, I'm screwed.



To many kids in this game playing it like it's WoW. Don't get me wrong, there are some kids that know more of the history about WWII than I would have thought, and some of these kids are very good for the game. On the other hand, it's really starting to sound like a facebook page around here.
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Post by: SunBat on December 27, 2010, 05:31:27 PM
Nope, but I avoid going head on with anyone. Learn some ACM's and never loose a gun


All I was saying is that as long as you fight a fight, not just spray and pray, there is very little chance for anyone to land hits on you. Look at some of the top stick flying. Think back when you had a shot at them. They get skinny at just the right moment, the turn the right way to deny you the shot you were going for, and they work to force you into a spot that if you are not good at getting skinny they WILL fill you full of holes. 

A very large percent of the threads are kids asking naive questions...

total de-gunning.... ya it happens, mostly do to being stupid and getting yourself in the line of fire.

which plane do you shoot first..... the one in my sites! then move because 6 other bozo's are trying to jump your ass! It's call "target of opportunity"

which plane gives you fits.... anyone thats flown well! come on! The Spit16 is a great plane, but if 20 dweebs come at me the odds are still in my favor, but send just one of those "brits" that fly them all the time, I'm screwed.



To many kids in this game playing it like it's WoW. Don't get me wrong, there are some kids that know more of the history about WWII than I would have thought, and some of these kids are very good for the game. On the other hand, it's really starting to sound like a facebook page around here.

Nice troll.  Well done. 
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: maddafinga on December 27, 2010, 06:08:14 PM

All I was saying is that as long as you fight a fight, not just spray and pray, there is very little chance for anyone to land hits on you. Look at some of the top stick flying. Think back when you had a shot at them. They get skinny at just the right moment, the turn the right way to deny you the shot you were going for, and they work to force you into a spot that if you are not good at getting skinny they WILL fill you full of holes. 

A very large percent of the threads are kids asking naive questions...

total de-gunning.... ya it happens, mostly do to being stupid and getting yourself in the line of fire.

which plane do you shoot first..... the one in my sites! then move because 6 other bozo's are trying to jump your ass! It's call "target of opportunity"

which plane gives you fits.... anyone thats flown well! come on! The Spit16 is a great plane, but if 20 dweebs come at me the odds are still in my favor, but send just one of those "brits" that fly them all the time, I'm screwed.



To many kids in this game playing it like it's WoW. Don't get me wrong, there are some kids that know more of the history about WWII than I would have thought, and some of these kids are very good for the game. On the other hand, it's really starting to sound like a facebook page around here.

I actually fight a good number of the top sticks in the game fairly regularly, I know how they defend, and I know how to do that my own self too.  I'm not talking about duels though, I'm talking about the main arenas, and that's a whole different beast.  And in the main arenas, especially in furballs, you're just going to get some guys that line up and ho, over and over and over.  You can't always dodge those guys, so you will get shot in the face.  Sometimes you make a bad pass on a bomber, or it turns out you made an attack on 999000 and no matter what angle you come at you get hit, so you get shot in the face.  That's just how it is.  In a duel, that's an entirely different story. 
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: E25280 on December 27, 2010, 06:27:36 PM
Only time I have ever had it happen to me was in an IL-2.  Kind of hard to avoid HOing a Wirblewind.   :noid
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Post by: palef on December 28, 2010, 12:59:33 AM
Have lost all 8 303s in a Hurri 1 due to one pass on a B17 formation. Lost an aileron too.
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: Ctrl on December 28, 2010, 01:32:03 AM
ive noticed that on allmost all my sorties in p47s or p40Es ive had atleast one gun shot out. my standing amount right now is 3 guns disabled in a p40E.


has anyone ever had there plane completly de-gunned?(have all guns shot out/disabled)

Did someone shoot it out or did it just become disabled?
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: Tyrannis on December 28, 2010, 01:41:43 AM
Did someone shoot it out or did it just become disabled?

shot out
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: Ctrl on December 28, 2010, 01:43:13 AM
shot out

I've had a few sorties were some of my guns have been shot out. Was it like a few pings and there gone?
Title: Re: total de-gunning a plane?
Post by: stealth on December 28, 2010, 03:00:01 AM
De-gunned in all American fighter aircraft. Besides p39s and p38s.
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Post by: Scotch on December 28, 2010, 03:16:40 AM
Yes, I've also been shot from behind and taken a pw and lost my hub cannon before. :(