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Title: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Plawranc on December 29, 2010, 07:14:17 AM
An interesting Mockumentary, inspired by Ken Burns civil war.

What if the South won?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EViGaTSnqRw
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Dragon on December 29, 2010, 07:27:46 AM
I can't watch the video at work, but I'm guessINg, IN.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Heater on December 29, 2010, 11:33:51 AM
Yep IN
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: ariansworld on December 29, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
IN
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Motherland on December 29, 2010, 01:56:56 PM
I watched the first part of it the other day, it seemed incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Wildcat1 on December 29, 2010, 02:20:34 PM
INterestINg....
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: ROX on December 29, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
Sadly, I rarely ever get IN.


(I hear the ban stick being cleaned and sharpened)
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Bored123 on December 29, 2010, 02:55:49 PM
haha, I read a book once called "Guns of the South," basically some military guys come back in time and give the south AK47s and training etc.... funny book, but pretty stupid.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Rattler on December 29, 2010, 03:08:35 PM
I usually never say this but wow.... IN
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Tupac on December 29, 2010, 03:47:44 PM
"DO YOU LIKE HAVIN SPARKLIES ON YO TEEFUS?"

Oh yeah, I'm in.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: ROX on December 29, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
This thread still open?

Jeesh, poor Skuzzy must be busy.  Happy holidays Skuzzy.

Oh, and I always wanted to say this on an international medium...

BOOGER.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Melvin on December 29, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
This thread still open?

Jeesh, poor Skuzzy must be busy.  Happy holidays Skuzzy.

Oh, and I always wanted to say this on an international medium...

BOOGER.


Dr. Jonny Fever?  :lol

Oh and, IN
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: IrishOne on December 29, 2010, 04:58:10 PM
so frickIN out
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Tac on December 29, 2010, 05:52:59 PM
Since im studying anthropology I found this to be rather interesting. Without the IN part.

Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: SmokinLoon on December 29, 2010, 07:03:33 PM
Obviously, this is a bad attempt at humor.   :huh 

Slavery was a dieing entity.  All one has to do is look at the long line of events from pre-1776 to 1850-ish and see how little by little slavery was going to die.  It was only a matter of time and the bulk of the South knew that.  They just wanted to do it on their own whim, not by the stroke of a pen by someone not "of" them.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: ozrocker on December 29, 2010, 07:19:15 PM
IN


                                           <S> Oz
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 29, 2010, 07:50:32 PM
I dont see anything so far serious enough to get the thread locked over.
But  I dont see it surviving very long. If the subject matter doesnt get it locked. User reaction will.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: soda72 on December 29, 2010, 08:09:42 PM
They could have at least came up with a plausible scenario like Lincoln losing the 1964 election to McClellan thus dividing the Union. 

:headscratch:

Instead they go off in some direction that had no real chance of happening....

France and Britian fighting side by side the confederates to win at Gettysburg?   

 :rofl 

yeah right! 









Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: rogwar on December 29, 2010, 08:10:18 PM
Yeah same here...it's a mocumentary replay on an interesting crossroads in history. What's the big deal.

Thanks for the link. I'd like to watch them all when I have time.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Lusche on December 29, 2010, 08:28:32 PM
They could have at least came up with a plausible scenario like Lincoln losing the 1964 election to McClellan thus dividing the Union.  

Maybe I just lack imagination, but both Lincoln as well as McClellan living until 1964 doesn't sound very plausible to me...  :devil

On the OT I would like to comment too, but I don't want to have a BBS timeout right now ;)
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Tango on December 29, 2010, 09:15:58 PM
Well, if Jackson hadn't died, I think Gettysburg would have had a different ending.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Saxman on December 29, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
Well, if Jackson hadn't died, I think Gettysburg would have had a different ending.

If the strategies of both sides had been the same I highly doubt it. Although there were mistakes made at the corps and division level, ultimately Lee BADLY mismanaged his battle plan at Gettysburg. Had he listened to Longstreet and moved between Meade and Washington--forcing Meade to come down from the heights and attack--MAYBE. But even with Jackson leading the way there was no way the Confederates were driving the Union off that ridge.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Muzzy on December 29, 2010, 11:31:11 PM
The best case scenario would have Jackson pushing the disorganized Union forces off Cemetery Hill on the first day, before they had time to consolidate the position. Recent evidence suggests that even if Jackson had been there, he could not have organized an attack, mainly because the Confederates created a traffic jam when they flooded into the town that made it impossible to redeploy.

A win at Gettysburg wouldn't have won the war. Grant took Vicksburg and cut the Confederacy in two almost on the same day.  He would have still come east and employed the same tactics that eventually won the war.  The Army of Northern Virginia never had enough manpower to completely destroy the Army of the Potomac, or even cut their numbers down appreciably without suffering similar losses.  Even if the AoP had been cut down to half its size, it could still have fallen back on the Washington defenses, and the Union could replace its losses, while the ANV could not.

The whole issue of what would have happened if the South had won the war has been done to death.  Harry Turtledove (he's the guy that wrote the AK 47 story someone else mentioned, but that novel is not part of the series) explored the idea in a series that chronicled not only a second civil war, but both world wars and (I believe) the 50's and 60's as well.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: rpm on December 29, 2010, 11:45:34 PM
I watched this when it was on TV. Nothing remotely "IN" worthy about it. Interesting take on "what if?".
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Plawranc on December 30, 2010, 04:55:28 AM
I thought it was a tadge on the ridiculous side. But I do not think it deserves an "IN". I saw it on youtube and watched it, and seeing as I know the layout of AH2's player base I thought it might interest the forum users. Entertain or take serious, doesn't matter, its still a good watch.

I did not intend to offend, I was just posting it.
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: Masherbrum on December 30, 2010, 06:44:25 AM
IN!
Title: Re: CSA: Confederate States of America
Post by: canacka on December 30, 2010, 08:29:24 AM
I can see how this could get the "Nothing to see here, move along" stick.  But it is a movie that was made to pertray what life might have been like, although I believe greatly exaggerated.  But nonetheless, if this thread doesn't get locked for it's merit, it soon will be due to the fact that future posts are probably not going to be civil.