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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: BrokenArrow226 on December 30, 2010, 02:46:11 PM
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Hi All,
This is the third time I've subscribed to AH. I'm staying this time but I have some questions.
1, Why is it I'm so easy to kill and there so hard to shoot down? I've been on someones six emptied mags into an enemy plane at 500-600K and I know I can't be missing them but no Victory.
2, Why is it that when I engage another plane there flying circles around me and I'm stuck in ultra slow motion? When I see another plane, we turn into each other and he past me either right or left side, I try to do a 180 but it seems to take forever as he or maybe she turns on a dime and takes me out with what seems like less that 5 rounds.
3, Does the enemy have any ships? I never see any enemy aircraft carriers.
Can someone please help.
Thanks Bill S
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1. How do you know you "can't be missing"? It's actually not difficult to miss the enemy at 500-600... for the majority of players, this is already long range. Try to get considerably closer, also film your attacks and view them afterwards (very helpful not only to judge gunnery).
2. Could be several reasons, and it's not easy to identify them here on the BBS. The best way would be to hook up with a trainer or an experienced player in the Training Arena. They can quickly identify your main problems, ranging from less than perfect setup of your controllers up to still having stall limiter enabled (can be found under options, it limits your ability to turn)
3. Oh yes they do. It's just that they often are on the way from their port to their destination, which can take some while. Watch the country text channel for reports about enemy CV attacks.
What is your ingame id?
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Have you been to the training arena? spent some time with a trainer or experienced player I'm not sure how long you have played each time but as some others are about to tell you this has a steep learning curve...many of the guys getting on your six quickly have played for years...
Have you set convergence...just because you are hitting a plane doesn't mean you are hitting them in a concentrated area..you could have peppered the whole plane.
Throttle control for turns and also don't yank and bank as this will just slow you down...rudder also...and of course do you have the stall limiter off.
Many many things to take into consideration with this game/sim
as for the CV's yes all sides have them...you just can't see them on the map....just as the other sides can't see yours
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I will be in the Training Arena a lot more starting next month. Look me up, I'm willing to help you.
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Thanks for the help and I will go to the training area.
My on screen name is MrMag00..............
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Would be glad to go to the DA and play target drone for ya. I betcha it's just that you're not used to saddling up at D200 and sticking there like glue. A very fixable issue (that took me a long time to truly grasp). PM me if ya want to give it a go.
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Don't get frustrated, just do what you are doing and ask.
I am a geek for this stuff and when I signed up I thought I would be owning people left and right. I knew all the names, theories and tactics. I started reading about World War Two airplanes when I seven, F4U Corsair - that was over three decades ago. Yet, it took me months to figure it out. Even now I have a lot to learn. The neat thing is what I am learning has little to do with the game and the nuances of 'E', turn radius, strategy, etc.
On top of going to the DA I would spend most of your time in one plane. Most go with the Spit though the great pilots rarely fly the Spit on a regular basis. Most of the great pilots zoom and boom, which is how they fought in WW2. I would start with the P-51D, learn all about 'E', and grow from there.
Boo
Loose Deuce
PS You'll also note that the great pilots took Cpt Eric Hartmann's adivce, they mostly shoot at 200 yards or less. Hartmann spoke of waiting until the enemy filled your windscreen then shoot. You can kill at 600 yards but takes all your ammo.
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Thanks for the help and I will go to the training area.
My on screen name is MrMag00..............
With that info, I may now come back to the gunnery issue (a problem that many players have). I took the freedom to look up your current stats, and I discovered you have a hit % of only 0.53% In other words, only 1 out of 200 fired bullets does hit your target, which is almost as far away from "I know I'm not missing" as possible. No wonder your enemy isn't coming down at D600. An occasional hit or two at this range will rarely hurt him.
- Shoot only at close ranges. Consider D600 as long range not worthy of a shot. Many players do stop trying to get into a good position at this range and start to spray away. Don't do that. Strive to get really close (at least 400, preferably 200) before you start to fire. Restrain yourself at the trigger.
- Take short bursts. Observe & correct.
- Practice attacks against the offline drones. Make use of the lead computing crosshairs offline or in the TA (to use them against friendlies in the TA, hit ctrl-tab to allow "friendly lock", then use TAB to lock on the plane you are shooting at.)
- Don't try too hard. Relax.
- Until you really "have it", try to stick to one plane, or at least to planes with the same type of guns. Switching back and forth between weapons with different ballistics (for example 109K with 30mm and P-51D with .50 cal) can be quite confusing for your mental sight picture.
- Same goes for convergence. Do not fiddle around too much with it, do not use different convergence settings in different planes for the same weapon. Best would to leave it at default.
- You may have also some controller issues. Your stick may be too bouncy.
- As mentioned before, film your sorties. It's far easier to detect errors and identify problems from a film. You will note a lot of things you would never had in combat.
If you can't find a regular trainer but happen see me (Snailman) online, feel free to contact me for a few rounds of gunnery school in TA or DA :old:
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I know this is going to sound noobish but sometimes when I start getting into a slump in the aiming department I go to offline and shoot up some drones for a bit and get back used to the lead.
Try it out it does help. Also limit yourself to taking shots at 200 or less. It is frustrating at first when people seem to just own you but with practice and time you can become just as good.
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Would be glad to go to the DA and play target drone for ya. I betcha it's just that you're not used to saddling up at D200 and sticking there like glue. A very fixable issue (that took me a long time to truly grasp). PM me if ya want to give it a go.
+1, If ya see me on, and want someone to shoot at, send me a PM. Glad to be a target for ya :aok
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So many really good trainers out there magoo get stuck in put the time in with them and the results will come with practice.
Good Luck :salute
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1. Don't get discouraged. This game is hard for most people and should be. It's a constant series of challenges to get better and no matter how 'good' you get there's a guy out there that will clobber you every time you meet him. To me that makes it fun :D
2. Check ye olde ego at the door. See ex 1 and remember somedays you eat the bear somedays the bear eats you. I'm a horrible cartoon airplane pilot. I'm getting better but I have 4 to 5 years off and on in game. Learn to love to learn and love to laugh. It's a defense mechanism for getting killed over and over and over and over.
3. I'd venture to say that 98% of the guys and gals that fly this sim are really great people and would be happy to take you to DA or meet you in the TA to give you some practice.
4. READ READ READ!!! there are tons of sites that can give you little tips that will help you. Netaces.org is one of the most premiere but you can find links all over this site.
5. Most importantly set up a time with a trainer to get your legs under you. These guys are all great people and very patient. Don't be embarrassed by the fact that you can't get hits early on. You will get them if you apply yourself.
6. If there's a question you feel foolish about asking anybody you can pm me. I'm kind of the resident clown anyway but I won't mock you nor will I tell anybody you asked. If I don't know the answer I'll find somebody who does and share it with you.
In game name Dichodog and I'm usually in the Axis VS Allied arena Monday through Wed 5:30 CST to at least 6:30. If you pop in there and we're alone I'll fly drone for you sir. Keep plugging. The game aside this is, by far, the greatest group of people I've ever found online. They're worth becoming a part of. So it takes some people a little longer to become a 'great' pilot. Being accepted and even, grudgingly, respected around here is pretty freaking cool in my book.
Hang in there bro. :salute
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Respect is what AH is about; you could say the game was built around the chat function with the planes thrown in just for fun. :D
Being good at flying isn't what really matters, having fun trying to be is. Now with that said...
To really benefit from ACM training here you have to keep at it long enough to burn it into your instinct, because combat here moves too fast for you to have time to recite paragraphs from manuals. Another area where manuals can't help is gauging energy states. Learning relative speed can only be done by 'calibrating' your eyes to the game with experience.
To survive a fight you have to understand it at the core, and part of doing that requires you to have 'been there, and done that' about a million times before. It's a long, slow process, but believe me, the rewards are awesome to behold.
Good luck!
<<S>>
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- Practice attacks against the offline drones. Make use of the lead computing crosshairs offline or in the TA (to use them against friendlies in the TA, hit ctrl-tab to allow "friendly lock", then use TAB to lock on the plane you are shooting at.)
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How does one turn on the lead computing crosshairs?
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To survive a fight you have to understand it at the core, and part of doing that requires you to have 'been there, and done that' about a million times before. It's a long, slow process, but believe me, the rewards are awesome to behold.
the man speaks the truth!
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On the speed issue:
The first factor is type of aircraft. Some birds have a very wide turning radius, others can spin around quite easily.
The second factor is your speed. In general, the faster you're going, the wider your turns are going to be. If you need to get around in a hurry, slow down.
Something that frustrated me initially was the fact that I could never seem to gain top speed in an aircraft. What I didn't realize is that you have to level out after a climb and take a few minutes to let the aircraft accelerate. If I'm heading for a distant fight, I will climb to 10-12k and then stay level for a few minutes in order to pick up some speed.
Overall it sounds like you're having difficulty in what's known as the merge...or the moment when two planes spot each other and close in to engage. Merging is one of the most difficult parts of this game to learn, and perhaps the one that most requires practice in the Training Area. I'm not an expert by any means but like many others I am willing to help you train. Click 'roster' on your clipboard and look for my name and page me. Radio command .p Muzzy <message>
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How does one turn on the lead computing crosshairs?
They're only available in the Training Area. Hit control-tab and then use tab to lock on a target.
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Thanks Muzzy
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...The second factor is your speed. In general, the faster you're going, the wider your turns are going to be. If you need to get around in a hurry, slow down...
This is true if you're above your corner speed. If you're below corner speed you will turn faster when you go faster.
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What are some best turn speeds for given AC? Just to give us idea. I tend to fly the F6F and p47.
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What are some best turn speeds for given AC? Just to give us idea. I tend to fly the F6F and p47.
Two great sites to learn more about the game are......
Soda's Aircraft Evaluations (http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/models.htm) He has most of the planes in Aces High down with info on how to fight them, how to fight in them and so on.
NetAces (http://www.netaces.org/). Click on the site map and enjoy! Tons of info for flying in Aces High
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They're only available in the Training Area. Hit control-tab and then use tab to lock on a target.
you can turn them on in offline mode but I forgot how... somebody who knows could post it and help a ton of folks, myself included, they also work in the offline missions which makes is wayyy handy
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What is your frame rate? I have problems dog fighting because of frame rate issues.
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Can offline missions use computer-aided gunsight?
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you can turn them on in offline mode but I forgot how... somebody who knows could post it and help a ton of folks, myself included
Offline:
Options->Arena Setup->Environment->Arena Settings. Under "General", go to "Flight Mode Flags". Check the "Lead Computing Sight" box.
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Rats! Snailfeller beat me to it. :)
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I've been on someones six emptied mags into an enemy plane at 500-600K and I know I can't be missing them but no Victory.
At that range your only giving away your position.. I rarely open fire until I'm within 300 or less.. Finding someone or a squad to wind with would help you a great deal as well.. :joystick:
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1, Why is it I'm so easy to kill and there so hard to shoot down? I've been on someones six emptied mags into an enemy plane at 500-600K and I know I can't be missing them but no Victory.
Heya Broken Arrow or MrMagoo =)
I'd highly suggest that D500-D600 is way too far away to get good hits to take a plane down. The vast majority of time I can actually get a hit it is usually in the D200-D350 range. It seems very close, but any farther and the aircraft's guns tend to spread out too much to do damage. Usually if I try to estimate distance "by feel" I wait until the wingspan of the enemy aircraft is almost as wide as my crosshair circle ( + ) and that's usually a great time to fire, though, because of moving, lining the aircraft up DIRECTLY with the crosshairs almost never consitutes a hit.
2, Why is it that when I engage another plane there flying circles around me and I'm stuck in ultra slow motion? When I see another plane, we turn into each other and he past me either right or left side, I try to do a 180 but it seems to take forever as he or maybe she turns on a dime and takes me out with what seems like less that 5 rounds.
There's a LOT of reasons for this. I don't know how much you know about Air Combat, but a small bit of learning ACM (Advanced Combat Maneuvering) is a huge asset. There's a lot of good info here : http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/
I will say this though... sometimes what "feels" right is exactly WRONG, and it really is important to try to learn what you can about where you may have made a mistake in each fight, and sometimes that means either visiting the training arena, dueling arena, or sometimes even asking the guy who shot you down how they did it.
One word of advice... almost NEVER turn "flat", meaning never put your place 90 degrees to the horizon and pull back. That's one of the easiest types of turns to counteract. There ARE planes you can do that in, but not many, and even in those planes there are better ways to do it.
3, Does the enemy have any ships? I never see any enemy aircraft carriers.
Yep. They're out there. Lurking. Stalking. Fightening small children.
:uhoh
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Let try to change your nickname :) or buy some glasses :lol
Quincy Magoo (or simply Mr. Magoo) is a cartoon character created at the UPA animation studio in 1949. Voiced by Jim Backus, Quincy Magoo is a wealthy, short-statured retiree who gets into a series of sticky situations as a result of his nearsightedness, compounded by his stubborn refusal to admit the problem.
Affected people (or animals) consequently tend to think that he is a lunatic, rather than just being nearsighted. In later cartoons he is also an actor, and generally a competent one except for his visual impairment.
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Offline:
Options->Arena Setup->Environment->Arena Settings. Under "General", go to "Flight Mode Flags". Check the "Lead Computing Sight" box.
gracias Snail and you too Mars.. happy new year to ya both :salute
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See - this is where I get excited.
Everytime I see some magical ACM combo from a good pilot I fly against and lose (or win occationally) it makes me want to play more - not less.
As someone who has always managed to dominate every video game I have ever played at the MMO level in pvp - AH2 is the first and only game where I see a long future practising and mastering air combat. . . that prospect, and the lack of any kind of economic grind means its the perfect game. If this game were easy, I would get bored asap.
Add to that the great community, and I am basically here.
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This game really is a lot like golf. It's difficult to master and frustrating at the beginning, but even when you're having a bad day, you'll do something awesome that will make you want to come back.
I just passed the milestone of achieving a positive kill/death score (more kills than deaths in a single tour). Guess now I can start learning to fly properly.
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I recommend you do a few things.
One, do a ton of reading on ACM. Get a good grasp of what people like to think of as E-fighting and angles-fighting.
Two, get with a trainer. The ACM information will be necessary, but you probably won't be able to actually apply it very successfully without some guidance into why certain things work at certain times, and why they get you ripped to shreds in others. The absolute best maneuver for a situation will get you killed if you do it at slightly the wrong time, or angle, or speed in relation to your opponent, etc...
Then review the ACM info again. Now that you "know something", it'll make a whole lot more sense, and you'll grasp things you blew right by previously without even knowing you were blowing by them...
Also, get closer before you shoot. When the icon counter switches from D400 to D200, you're at 300yds, which is a great time to open fire. No matter how good you are at ACM and spacial use, you'll die if you can't hit your target hard, and quick. Good shooting can make up for some ACM flaws as well. For a little while at least, I'd even pay attention to your hit%, with the goal of actually seeing it improve. As mentioned, you're at roughly 1/2%. I think the game average is around 3 or 4%. Strive to reach 5% or more. If you can maintain 10% in fighter vs fighter type shooting, you'll be just plain deadly. I'd guess it'll take you a few years to hit that goal. Keep in mind that strafing ground targets will lower your hit% though, so to really track it you'd want to "fight" in fighter mode, and switch to attack mode when you plan to strafe ground targets, etc...
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I would like to thank you all for your help. Its the first day of the new year and I just came back from getting my but kicked continuously all morning. So with that said...I'm looking fwd to the training area. I gave up looking for my headset which is essential for the TA, I will buy a new one look fwd to some tr aiming.
Thanks again and Happy New Year to all.
Mag00
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Broken..I feel your pain. What has helped me lately is to stay in highly populated areas as to avoid alot of 1-1 or 1-2 contacts which i will lose 99% of the time. You can work on things a bit better when you are not the focus and have some fun at the same time. As you get more confidence you can escalate your encounters.
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Hey,
Do You play rook or knights? :headscratch:
That could be a problem. :joystick: :neener:
Visit Bishops side and try some their missions. :airplane:
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Hey,
Do You play rook or knights? :headscratch:
That could be a problem. :joystick: :neener:
Visit Bishops side and try some their missions. :airplane:
How do you find missions? Is there a place that lists all the current missions or do you have to go to each field and check the mission board?
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How do you find missions? Is there a place that lists all the current missions or do you have to go to each field and check the mission board?
Missions are usually advertised by their creators on the countrychannel. Most of them pretty much so.
Also the mission board is the same, regardless which field you are on.
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I am by no means a good pilot but approximately 6 months ago I decided to make 2 changes in my approach which helped me immensely. One, never dive into the pack. Even the best pilots will get gunned down when they engage in a furball on the deck at slow speeds. Put yourself in position where you have an advantage and then engage. Two, avoid a HO at all costs. I used to blame others for head-on collisions but came to realize it's my job alone to get out of the way. These changes are by no means revolutionary but my kills per sortie went from .50 to 1.2, thus making the game more enjoyable.
Hope this helps.
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How do you access your films??
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Broken..I feel your pain. What has helped me lately is to stay in highly populated areas as to avoid alot of 1-1 or 1-2 contacts which i will lose 99% of the time.
There's something to be said for that for sure. Especially for newer players. And it's fun, and great for learning SA. But finding yourself a 1v1 every odd sortie will go a long way to learning to dogfight 1v1, which for a lot of players is the most fun the game can be.
Throttle control for turns and also don't yank and bank as this will just slow you down...rudder also...and of course do you have the stall limiter off.
Best tip I ever got. Took me a long time to learn that keeping throttle firewalled was getting me shot down.
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How do you access your films??
AHfilm.exe is in your Aces High folder. Double click it, then File, Open. Defaults to ..\Aces Hich\films
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There's something to be said for that for sure. Especially for newer players. And it's fun, and great for learning SA. But finding yourself a 1v1 every odd sortie will go a long way to learning to dogfight 1v1, which for a lot of players is the most fun the game can be.
Best tip I ever got. Took me a long time to learn that keeping throttle firewalled was getting me shot down.
unfortunately, a disturbingly large % of the community takes the same view
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There's something to be said for that for sure. Especially for newer players. And it's fun, and great for learning SA. But finding yourself a 1v1 every odd sortie will go a long way to learning to dogfight 1v1, which for a lot of players is the most fun the game can be.
Best tip I ever got. Took me a long time to learn that keeping throttle firewalled was getting me shot down.
Hey, can you make a list of other things that are getting you shot down, and them PM them to me? I need to know what I can do to shoot you down :D
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Hey, can you make a list of other things that are getting you shot down, and them PM them to me? I need to know what I can do to shoot you down :D
For you just take up a K4 based on past experience :(
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For you just take up a K4 based on past experience :(
Well I don't know for sure about all that man. Always a great fight though Shiv! :salute
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Hey, can you make a list of other things that are getting you shot down, and them PM them to me? I need to know what I can do to shoot you down :D
I got him with my 38 last night.
well ok he was in B26s and I only got one of his, but I did shoot him down :P
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That was a pleasure to watch, some textbook attacks on buffs there Fugi. If it wasn't B26s you'd have got all three <<S>>
And <<S> madda, always epic battles.
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Hey, can you make a list of other things that are getting you shot down, and them PM them to me? I need to know what I can do to shoot you down :D
What gets me shot down 75% of the time, is me doing something stupid. The worst part is 90% of that time I even knew better. :lol
:salute
BigRat
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This game is like cranberry juice. You take a big sip, make a funny face, and put the bottle immediately back into the fridge.
Then within ten minutes, you're back at the fridge taking another sip, making another funny face...
And the cycle goes on.
... Or maybe I just don't have much of a selection of drinks :uhoh
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This game is like cranberry juice. You take a big sip, make a funny face, and put the bottle immediately back into the fridge.
Then within ten minutes, you're back at the fridge taking another sip, making another funny face...
And the cycle goes on.
... Or maybe I just don't have much of a selection of drinks :uhoh
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Actually, it's a lot like golf. When you first start playing it's hard to do anything right, but then you get a lucky drive, a decent putt, or a nice pitch out of a sand trap and it makes you want to keep going. Then there are days when you're landing birdies left right and center, and the next minute you're hitting every water hazard within a 1000 yard radius.
ACM...it's like Golf with cannons.
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Well I've been spending a lot of time with the drones. I was on for four hrs today in a P38. This was after getting my but kicked on line so I took my air rage out on the drones. I kicked butt though after my sixth or so rearm, I swear one of those things shot at me, I heard a hit and my left engine started smoking????. Anyway as soon as I break down and buy a mike and headset, I'll head to the training area. The more I got on there six , and the more I blew them out of the sky, I realized that they are a lot like me when on line....That's bad, I may change my onscreen name to DRONE or La Drone. LOL...
Bill S...AKA MrMag00
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The one thing I cant seem to find out is how to view my own films I save after each flight. I have about forty or so and would like to view them if I could find out how to do it............
Thanks MrMag00
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This thread should be stickied :rock :salute
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The one thing I cant seem to find out is how to view my own films I save after each flight. I have about forty or so and would like to view them if I could find out how to do it............
Thanks MrMag00
You didn't say what operating system you have, but I have XP and this is how you get it going in XP.
You first have to associate the ahf files with the film viewer. Go to start/programs/accessories/windows explorer. Use that to navigate to the HTC folder where the game is. On my computer it at C:\Program Files\HTC\Aces High II\films. double click on any of the films and it should open a window asking you what program you want to use to open the file. Click the "browse" button and in the Aces High II folder will be a file called "ahfilm.exe" click on it and this will associate the films to the film viewer. Before clicking OK, be sure to click the "always use this for this type of file" button.
I also right click on the "ahfilm.exe" file and click on the "create a shortcut" selection. Then I drag and drop the new shortcut to the desktop. This way when I want to watch films I have the short cut on the desktop, and the film viewer has a browse feature to find the films so you don't have to hunt them down everytime you want to play them.
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Is it relatively easy to take someone's canned, offline mission and plug in different planes? Lots better than target drone practice, I should think