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Title: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: FiLtH on January 01, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
   Alot of games out there start you off at level 1 and you have basic tools to use, eventually thru time in game alone advancing thru more levels increasing your "skill". This isnt skill at all, simply an increase of hit points ,armor values, and weapons power that you acquire by playing ALOT.

   The beauty of Aces High is, everyone from DAY 1, to DAY 5000 is starting on an even playing field. Everyone has the same tools. It is actual skill that is developed over time that makes you better. Those other games arent played with how well you parry a blow, simply how many spell cast points you have. It doesnt matter is you if you can place a well aimed sword, just how much that sword does in damage per second.

   In Aces high you may start off being next to worthless, but over time you improve, but the tools remain the same as when you started. Thats the thing I like best about this game. The game doesnt control the ability of your character...you do.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: bcadoo on January 02, 2011, 12:18:36 AM
Unless you want to fly a 262
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: IrishOne on January 02, 2011, 12:22:48 AM
   Alot of games out there start you off at level 1 and you have basic tools to use, eventually thru time in game alone advancing thru more levels increasing your "skill". This isnt skill at all, simply an increase of hit points ,armor values, and weapons power that you acquire by playing ALOT.

   The beauty of Aces High is, everyone from DAY 1, to DAY 5000 is starting on an even playing field. Everyone has the same tools. It is actual skill that is developed over time that makes you better. Those other games arent played with how well you parry a blow, simply how many spell cast points you have. It doesnt matter is you if you can place a well aimed sword, just how much that sword does in damage per second.

   In Aces high you may start off being next to worthless, but over time you improve, but the tools remain the same as when you started. Thats the thing I like best about this game. The game doesnt control the ability of your character...you do.

+ a bazillion
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: grizz441 on January 02, 2011, 01:08:59 AM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on January 02, 2011, 01:10:04 AM
also the same reason, you keep coming back even after a several month break.. the thrill of showing the rest what YOUR capable of. :airplane:
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on January 02, 2011, 01:10:57 AM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...
:D   shush you
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: FiLtH on January 02, 2011, 01:26:55 AM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...

  Ya I guess that is one drawback for the game. It is affected by the hardware you use. Then again Ive seen alot of folks spend alot of money on good setups, but it only carries so far.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Yarbles on January 02, 2011, 02:16:48 AM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...

Most noobs wouldn't get that much out of it and some have proved they can do well with just a mouse.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: grizz441 on January 02, 2011, 05:30:15 AM
  Ya I guess that is one drawback for the game. It is affected by the hardware you use. Then again Ive seen alot of folks spend alot of money on good setups, but it only carries so far.

True.  A $20 St290 can go a long way.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: pipz on January 02, 2011, 08:05:04 AM
Most noobs wouldn't get that much out of it and some have proved they can do well with just a mouse.

here here <G>
I've know a couple peeps who used the mouse and they were outstanding.

Good post Filth although I admit being a bit dissapointed. I thought the thread was going to be about Me  :D Muahhahahahhahahahahaha
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: DaCoon on January 02, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
As a noob(roughly 4-1/2 yrs ago) I started with a Logitech Attack 3 joystick that I got from Walmart for $20. No pedals and only my keyboard for rudder and throttle control. I have to say that my improvement was greatly enhanced by the addition of an X52 stick and CH pedals. Been flying with this setup for well over 3 yrs now and wouldn't change it for anything. I still use the # keypad for my views cuz I haven't made up my mind to invest in track IR yet. But just about everything else is mapped to my stick and throttle.   
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on January 02, 2011, 09:01:29 AM
As a noob(roughly 4-1/2 yrs ago) I started with a Logitech Attack 3 joystick that I got from Walmart for $20. No pedals and only my keyboard for rudder and throttle control. I have to say that my improvement was greatly enhanced by the addition of an X52 stick and CH pedals. Been flying with this setup for well over 3 yrs now and wouldn't change it for anything. I still use the # keypad for my views cuz I haven't made up my mind to invest in track IR yet. But just about everything else is mapped to my stick and throttle.   


why don't you try out the "VR920" and give us a review?     and yes peddles really do help verses a twisty stick, oh boy I can hear it already... :bolt:
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: R 105 on January 02, 2011, 10:18:01 AM
 I started out with a used ST-290 Pro stick by Saitek about 5 yrs ago off line and I still have the same stick. I was in an auto accident in 2004 that left me with a head injury. This caused me to have a stroke in 05. Our neighbor kid gave me this ST-290 and set up AH off line for me. I was home with nothing to do and could only leave the house if the wife drove me. I was not much interested in the game and had never played a video game on line.

 Well I started playing off line and one day my wife set me up on line and to my surprise I liked the game and started playing 6 or 7 hrs a day. At the time I was going to all kinds of rehab for reading speaking and hand eye coordination. I found that AH was better for my rehab than all the crap they had me doing. I got to talk with real people without leaving the house and the forum has spell check.

 I still am at home with not much to do but there is always AH and on a fixed income this is a lot of fun for $14.95 a month. Now when I win the lotto (any day now lol) I will buy a real computer and a new stick but until then it is my ST-290 and a frame rate in the teens.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: TwinBoom on January 02, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
  Ya I guess that is one drawback for the game. It is affected by the hardware you use. Then again Ive seen alot of folks spend alot of money on good setups, but it only carries so far.

<---Still carrying the Sidewinder twisty Torch!
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Kazaa on January 02, 2011, 11:15:15 AM
  Alot of games out there start you off at level 1 and you have basic tools to use, eventually thru time in game alone advancing thru more levels increasing your "skill". This isnt skill at all, simply an increase of hit points ,armor values, and weapons power that you acquire by playing ALOT.

   The beauty of Aces High is, everyone from DAY 1, to DAY 5000 is starting on an even playing field. Everyone has the same tools. It is actual skill that is developed over time that makes you better. Those other games arent played with how well you parry a blow, simply how many spell cast points you have. It doesnt matter is you if you can place a well aimed sword, just how much that sword does in damage per second.

   In Aces high you may start off being next to worthless, but over time you improve, but the tools remain the same as when you started. Thats the thing I like best about this game. The game doesnt control the ability of your character...you do.

Did you play a bit of WoW recently? :D
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: pervert on January 02, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Aces High is cool because because its what you know that matters, not who you know.  :rock
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: mechanic on January 02, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
<---Still carrying the Sidewinder twisty Torch!


Yes mate!  Started nearly 7 years ago on a sidewinder and still using one today. I would like pedals, but it's a pipe dream. The anticipation of one day getting pedals is more fun than actualy getting them, I expect.

great post Filth S!
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: jamdive on January 02, 2011, 11:58:24 AM
<---Still carrying the Sidewinder twisty Torch!

Just bought another sidewinder twisty.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: bj229r on January 02, 2011, 12:30:18 PM
True.  A $20 St290 can go a long way.
about 43 days, on the average, when I used em :lol
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: JUGgler on January 02, 2011, 12:38:18 PM
   Alot of games out there start you off at level 1 and you have basic tools to use, eventually thru time in game alone advancing thru more levels increasing your "skill". This isnt skill at all, simply an increase of hit points ,armor values, and weapons power that you acquire by playing ALOT.

   The beauty of Aces High is, everyone from DAY 1, to DAY 5000 is starting on an even playing field. Everyone has the same tools. It is actual skill  that is developed over time that makes you better. Those other games arent played with how well you parry a blow, simply how many spell cast points you have. It doesnt matter is you if you can place a well aimed sword, just how much that sword does in damage per second.

   In Aces high you may start off being next to worthless, but over time you improve, but the tools remain the same as when you started. Thats the thing I like best about this game. The game doesnt control the ability of your character...you do.

Skill is nothing more than experience and repitition! On average the peeps who have played the longest are the best, not everytime but I would say OVERWHELMINGLY so!


JUGgler
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: MarineUS on January 02, 2011, 02:33:06 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Becinhu on January 02, 2011, 02:37:46 PM
Skill is nothing more than experience and repitition! On average the peeps who have played the longest are the best, not everytime but I would say OVERWHELMINGLY so!


JUGgler
I have had the AH addiction for going on ten years. I still suck as much as the day I started. I just learned to hit a hanger with bombs in that time.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 02, 2011, 03:00:48 PM
I always thought they should start people out with 150 perk points or so.  That way ALL of the perked rides would be available (all but the 262) from teh start, and the 262 not too long after words.

Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: JUGgler on January 02, 2011, 03:27:18 PM
I have had the AH addiction for going on ten years. I still suck as much as the day I started. I just learned to hit a hanger with bombs in that time.

There are a few other peeps who also suffer from "false humility" Those who continue to announce they are "knocking off the rust" or just always saying how "terrible" they are.

Some advice, If you are good please OWN your goodness and we all know YOU are good!

For the few others who have this same "I'm not good" sentiment when you know you are please stop. It smells of need for VALIDATION a truely adolescent way of being  :aok :aok :aok :aok


JUGgler
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Spikes on January 02, 2011, 03:31:17 PM
about 43 days, on the average, when I used em :lol
Mine lasted me 4 or 5 years. It still works, just the Hat switch doesn't work as well. Hell I won a race with it in the racing league a few months back. :)
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Lusche on January 02, 2011, 03:39:39 PM
Some advice, If you are good please OWN your goodness and we all know YOU are good!

When is someone good? 
It depends all on the scale you are using to measure, to compare to.

I guess there are maybe 100-150 players in AH that can constantly & consistently kick my butt in about any situation, and I'm not even thinking about that few ACM gods we have. I'm not getting even remotely close in skill level to be an annoyance for them. So am I really good? Do I suck?
On the other hand that leaves about 4000 players that rarely do have a chance against me. Does this makes me great then? Who knows... and who cares  ;)

(And I always prefer some humility over the blazing EGO's that do populate CH 200  :))

Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: CAP1 on January 02, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
also the same reason, you keep coming back even after a several month break.. the thrill of showing the rest what YOUR capable of. :airplane:

personally, i don't care what the "rest" think i can or can't do. i come in to fly with my friends, squaddies, and to have fun.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Becinhu on January 02, 2011, 04:26:43 PM
There are a few other peeps who also suffer from "false humility" Those who continue to announce they are "knocking off the rust" or just always saying how "terrible" they are.

Some advice, If you are good please OWN your goodness and we all know YOU are good!

For the few others who have this same "I'm not good" sentiment when you know you are please stop. It smells of need for VALIDATION a truely adolescent way of being  :aok :aok :aok :aok


JUGgler

Trust me Jug, I get my butt handed to me on a regular basis. From other long term vets to 2-week noobs I lose...alot. I'm lucky to post a k/d over 2 and thats on a good month. I don't have enough perks for a 262 (partly due to my tempest addiction). It's not false humility, it's fact.


Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: ink on January 02, 2011, 05:05:37 PM
Haha     I found AH when my landlord was playing one day in 04,   he explained he was fighting real people, I was wow I can kill people and not go to prison... oh hell ya...but then as time went on i found some pretty damn cool people and now absolutly enjoy AH for those reasons, the peeps, my squadies are some of the greatest people ive met....and there are a few who are not in my squad that i feel the same about,  this is by far the greatest game out there and  well worth it.              as far as skill goes well I am one of the few that just took to it, I was getting kills my first day, was called a cheater my first month playing lol  yet I am still learning the ins and outs of a 'dogfight' and get my butt handed to me, I dont care about being the best there is, I just want to be the best I can be.        ive been called a cheater... hell so many times ive forgotten, but ive had way more compliments, so ya I feel im good, but in my mind I want to be great, the best I can be.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Scotch on January 02, 2011, 05:07:23 PM
Who was your landlord?

I wanna DA for free rent.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: REVRAND on January 02, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...


........but they should
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: JUGgler on January 02, 2011, 05:34:46 PM
When is someone good? 
It depends all on the scale you are using to measure, to compare to.

I guess there are maybe 100-150 players in AH that can constantly & consistently kick my butt in about any situation, and I'm not even thinking about that few ACM gods we have. I'm not getting even remotely close in skill level to be an annoyance for them. So am I really good? Do I suck?
On the other hand that leaves about 4000 players that rarely do have a chance against me. Does this makes me great then? Who knows... and who cares  ;)

(And I always prefer some humility over the blazing EGO's that do populate CH 200  :))



No insult intended in my post, although if you think you are in the top 200 as your post infers, then you are good and you know it  :aok :aok :aok


JUGgler
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: GreenEagle43 on January 02, 2011, 11:09:24 PM
its the bomb. I'm an aces high junkie  :joystick:
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: FiLtH on January 03, 2011, 12:13:11 AM
 No Kazaa, I havent played WoW, and I wont. I have close squaddies who do, but Im too afraid my addictive habits would suck me in. :)

Other than AH, its been Hitman, Fallout, and SilentHunter.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: SPKmes on January 03, 2011, 12:47:29 AM
For me it's the community....in game  and here and everything that goes with it )ho's whines, vulches, whines, brewsters, whines, gangers, 200  etc etc).....yes there are buffoon times had by all but overall, time and again the people win...whether it be an offer of a joystick because yours is all but dead to the prays and thoughts sent to those in need...heck look what you guys did for a person who is a part of this community by the old 2° of separation...they got themselves a computer for Christmas...<S>  AH'ers

Edit:
Sorry I know it's of the board a bit but I just carried on from the title
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: ink on January 03, 2011, 02:22:32 AM
Scotch.....it was Jozepi a 38 nut, within a month id smoke him easy...lol i remeber flying on his system he yells at me ...you cant do that....watching me dogfight, hehe, he is a great dood.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Plawranc on January 03, 2011, 03:29:39 PM
As a noob(roughly 4-1/2 yrs ago) I started with a Logitech Attack 3 joystick that I got from Walmart for $20. No pedals and only my keyboard for rudder and throttle control. I have to say that my improvement was greatly enhanced by the addition of an X52 stick and CH pedals. Been flying with this setup for well over 3 yrs now and wouldn't change it for anything. I still use the # keypad for my views cuz I haven't made up my mind to invest in track IR yet. But just about everything else is mapped to my stick and throttle.   

I use an attack 3, and I can beat 85% of pilots in AH2 in my favourite aircraft type (Spitfire of all variants) without too much trouble. I can beat 10% of the really good sticks in a pitched hardcore fight. And the 5% left (Grizz, Bruv, Batfink, Niros, etc..) blast me out of the sky like I was a sparrow in a falcons nest.

It depends almost solely on skill and the mastery of your virtual machine. And that is what I love about this game, the way it embodies skill and experience instead of points gained and extra perks you bought in the online store.


Plus, this game has the best community by such a huge margin it defies belief.
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: Changeup on January 03, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...

No, but they should because I've been in for 3 years now and I STILL don't have one!!!

No full CH setup = embrace your suckage

Changeup
Title: Re: The really cool thing about Aces High
Post by: SunBat on January 03, 2011, 04:38:27 PM
I don't think most noobs start off with full CH setup...

U don't have one sew what's you're point?