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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Klam on January 12, 2011, 10:48:50 AM
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This is EW. Not much a guy can do with this.
Yeah I could go MW or LW. I like the planeset in EW and it used to be good.
I'm in London so I don't know if it's a time thing. Or if it gets better later on.
Anyway, it's thier money....... :lol
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz331/Onan_photos/EW.jpg)
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This is EW. Not much a guy can do with this.
Yeah I could go MW or LW. I like the planeset in EW and it used to be good.
I'm in London so I don't know if it's a time thing. Or if it gets better later on.
Anyway, it's thier money....... :lol
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz331/Onan_photos/EW.jpg)
looks like your biggest issue is 20 fps while in the tower :(
JUGgler
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Lots of targets.
I'm friends with most all of the Blacksheep. You can ask a couple of them to meet you elsewhere and get some fights if defending the base from them all gets to be too much. Even though their squad is large and they operate as a glob, at least they like to fight. Many are willing to go aside and fight alone if you ask. I usually see many of them on when I come home from work...they jump between EW and MW.
As far as the rest in the arena...apparently they like to join the horde and are hoping for the cherished 25 perkies for being on the side to "win teh warz".
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If you are attracted to the early plane set then give Mid War a try. More peeps on average plus ALL the early war rides are still competent and deadly in MW if handled well.
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They get the perks in there to use in the LWA's. They sure as hell won't fight either.
The EWA should be deep 6'd because of them.
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looks like your biggest issue is 20 fps while in the tower :(
JUGgler
Not an issue really, it jumps to 30 in flight. It used to be 15-20 so I'm happy. :aokLots of targets.
I'm friends with most all of the Blacksheep. You can ask a couple of them to meet you elsewhere and get some fights if defending the base from them all gets to be too much. Even though their squad is large and they operate as a glob, at least they like to fight. Many are willing to go aside and fight alone if you ask. I usually see many of them on when I come home from work...they jump between EW and MW.
As far as the rest in the arena...apparently they like to join the horde and are hoping for the cherished 25 perkies for being on the side to "win teh warz".
I think most of the guys in there are ok, just don't understand why 2 or 3 squads are on the same side.
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They sure as hell won't fight either.
The EWA should be deep 6'd because of them.
the 337th blacksheep?
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This is EW. Not much a guy can do with this.
Yeah I could go MW or LW. I like the planeset in EW and it used to be good.
I'm in London so I don't know if it's a time thing. Or if it gets better later on.
Anyway, it's thier money....... :lol
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz331/Onan_photos/EW.jpg)
lol. why'd you block out names? no need to. im the "5th sfg" guy.
best time ive seen in EW was back during the summer, you had S.O.A.R, the ironhorsemen,the 337th,and a couple of other squads all in there duking it out. was very fun, and very competitive. but i guess after awhile the limited plane set starts to get annoying. (in EW, you'll most likely encounter more spits/hurricanes than all the other planes,and zekes too).and the action in there can stop just as suddenly as it began. it CAN be VERY fun, it just isent right now because everyones duking it out in LW.
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just don't understand why 2 or 3 squads are on the same side.
Score-potatoing! :aok
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A prime example of the age old struggle of man against buildings and auto-ack.These brave souls are valiantly fighting for our very existence and should be praised for their sacrifice.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jAH3Mz8KFxo/SCBt7-1W5XI/AAAAAAAAAYc/13AD-iqvamY/s320/Benny.gif)
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The state is even worse than than it seems.
As many of you know, I'm currently compiling the datat for the annual AH Stats thread. While still focusing on LW, This year I wanted to include the other arenas too. Unfortunately the EW stats for the planes are being next to unusable. For example the P-40B had suddenly a supreme K/D in 2010, placing it just behind the highly perked 190. Not because one or two ACM experts did pick that plane as their main ride for a year, but mainly by shade/squaddie vulching respectively proxy kills to boost the score. For example, thanks to several members of Kommando Nowotny the P-40B suddenly became one of the top killers of the T-34... amazing thing for a plane that does not carry any bombs. :rolleyes:
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Guess I never thought score was that important. Heck I've been missing something all along. geeeez
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See? See! This is why you don't intentionally mess with score, it makes the Snail all mad! No we gotta go find some new slime lubricant, all the frustration dries him out! Hope you're happy, Snail killers.
:P
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The state is even worse than than it seems.
As many of you know, I'm currently compiling the datat for the annual AH Stats thread. While still focusing on LW, This year I wanted to include the other arenas too. Unfortunately the EW stats for the planes are being next to unusable. For example the P-40B had suddenly a supreme K/D in 2010, placing it just behind the highly perked 190. Not because one or two ACM experts did pick that plane as their main ride for a year, but mainly by shade/squaddie vulching respectively proxy kills to boost the score. For example, thanks to several members of Kommando Nowotny the P-40B suddenly became one of the top killers of the T-34... amazing thing for a plane that does not carry any bombs. :rolleyes:
not everyone who goes in EW are "score hoars"...
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The state is even worse than than it seems.
As many of you know, I'm currently compiling the datat for the annual AH Stats thread. While still focusing on LW, This year I wanted to include the other arenas too. Unfortunately the EW stats for the planes are being next to unusable. For example the P-40B had suddenly a supreme K/D in 2010, placing it just behind the highly perked 190. Not because one or two ACM experts did pick that plane as their main ride for a year, but mainly by shade/squaddie vulching respectively proxy kills to boost the score. For example, thanks to several members of Kommando Nowotny the P-40B suddenly became one of the top killers of the T-34... amazing thing for a plane that does not carry any bombs. :rolleyes:
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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This is EW. Not much a guy can do with this.
Yeah I could go MW or LW. I like the planeset in EW and it used to be good.
I'm in London so I don't know if it's a time thing. Or if it gets better later on.
Anyway, it's thier money....... :lol
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz331/Onan_photos/EW.jpg)
Yup... it's a shame but some like the airport aspect of the game. MW can get like that at times.
At least sometimes they are good.
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You're complaining about a 5.0 perk bonus? :headscratch:
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thanks to several members of Kommando Nowotny the P-40B suddenly became one of the top killers of the T-34... amazing thing for a plane that does not carry any bombs. :rolleyes:
It's a shame they don't make arena-specific perks. Make people use them where they earn them; that would stop a lot of this BS. Having a low-populated arena full of shade/squaddie killers just for farming perkies to use on jets in LW is absolutely no fun for the people who like playing in that arena, since those perk farmers will stop upping or just log out if you even get close to them. Not to mention giving the arena the bad rep it has gotten.
not everyone who goes in EW are "score hoars"...
:aok
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It'd probably help to change it back to the original setup of early war planes being only available in the early war arena. Mid war planes only in the midwar arena and late war planes only in the late war arena. That way a person must choose the appropriate arena to fly a particular plane.
That way you wouldn't have people flying early war planes in other arenas. If they wanted their early war plane fix they'd have to go to the early war arena where they belong and that would pump up the numbers there. Same for mid war.
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Why? That would take away those who enjoy the challenge of the mid and early war planes in the MA. I think at that point the MidWar would become the popular arena.
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It'd probably help to change it back to the original setup of early war planes being only available in the early war arena. Mid war planes only in the midwar arena and late war planes only in the late war arena. That way a person must choose the appropriate arena to fly a particular plane.
That way you wouldn't have people flying early war planes in other arenas. If they wanted their early war plane fix they'd have to go to the early war arena where they belong and that would pump up the numbers there. Same for mid war.
That would absolutely suck. One main reason to fly an early war plane in LW is not to get a fix on any specific plane, but the challenge to fly a Hurri I or A6M2 in a combat environment with much more capable planes. And it would hardly increase EW population at all, because there are more problems with that arena than just a redundant plane set.
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QFT.......... Except replace those crappy rides with the luster of a Mossie or E4 or P40!
That would absolutely suck. One main reason to fly an early war plane in LW is not to get a fix on any specific plane, but the challenge to fly a Hurri I or A6M2 in a combat environment with much more capable planes. And it would hardly increase EW population at all, because there are more problems with that arena than just a redundant plane set.
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Score-potatoing! :aok
^^^^ came for this
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curious question...does EW/MD/LW all have the same hardness settings/etc?
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As far as I know, the only difference is the plane set. All objects carry the same hardness.
curious question...does EW/MD/LW all have the same hardness settings/etc?
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As far as I know, the only difference is the plane set. All objects carry the same hardness.
maybe that could be the problem...some objects take more bombloads to down/etc. in EW the bombers are b25s/ju88s/etc(lanc with perkies). people are used to upping 24s-17s with there massive bombloads to take out things with just 1 sorite. but in EW it'll take 1-2 or even 3 sorties to down something entirely just because you cant carry enough bombs for it due to the fact that its set to LW standards.
i think the settings should be based off what period of planes are in the room,instead of all 3 rooms having the same settings.
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And the perks for those Lancs are ridiculous........ :D
You make an interesting point that might be worth discussing!!!
+1 on Tyrannis!
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maybe that could be the problem...
Yes it is. The settings are tailored to the LW environment, with swarms of heavy 110G's and F4U-D's
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And the perks for those Lancs are ridiculous........ :D
You make an interesting point that might be worth discussing!!!
+1 on Tyrannis!
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maybe that could be the problem...some objects take more bombloads to down/etc. in EW the bombers are b25s/ju88s/etc(lanc with perkies). people are used to upping 24s-17s with there massive bombloads to take out things with just 1 sorite. but in EW it'll take 1-2 or even 3 sorties to down something entirely just because you cant carry enough bombs for it due to the fact that its set to LW standards.
i think the settings should be based off what period of planes are in the room,instead of all 3 rooms having the same settings.
Could you please give me a reason to be in the EW if all you are looking for is to bomb buildings? I can understand flying the planes but bombing the buildings? Why even go in that arena for that? Maybe HT should model EW buildings? :lol
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Could you please give me a reason to be in the EW if all you are looking for is to bomb buildings? I can understand flying the planes but bombing the buildings? Why even go in that arena for that? Maybe HT should model EW buildings? :lol
you missed the point... you have to bomb the town in every arena, to take the field, but the hardness/settings are all set to resist massive bombloads that b17s-b24s-lancs etc carry in LW, for town buildings/FH/ord/everything is set to a hardness that helps them resist LW fighters with massive ord options or LW bombers with there massive bombloads. but in EW, you cant do with a b25 what you can with a b24, and most fighters can only carry 1-2 bombs, (i think the perked p38G is the only plane that carries rockets except for the TBM, but thats a bomber). do you see what im trying to get at? most ppl get frustrated trying to deal with LW settings using limited EW planes, and this is most likely why they dont want to stick around, too much time waisted with such little gain.
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Ya lets make it easier to earn them perk points, and reset those maps! :rolleyes:
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Could you please give me a reason to be in the EW if all you are looking for is to bomb buildings? I can understand flying the planes but bombing the buildings? Why even go in that arena for that? Maybe HT should model EW buildings? :lol
That "blow things up and capture bases" is in Ah to promote combat. And for the most part, it works. After we got the new towns, the number of kills made (=combat & activity) in fell through the floor in EW. Now that the towns have the flag and 50% rule, it's not only that players came back - the combat came back too (even EW is still much about milkrunning - but to some degree that's just a result of low numbers)
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Ya lets make it easier to earn them perk points, and reset those maps! :rolleyes:
...-sigh- if you make EW planes more capable of performing on there level, casual players wouldnt get so frustrated by lack of results like they are now and therefore go running off to stay in the LW to get better results, they might wish to stick around in EW then, then when people see a decent number of folks in the EW, more will come to check it out,and find out its no longer a bunch of work for such poor results. it may not get up to the status that LW is, but it could possably make it to how MW is right now, which would be fine.
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That would absolutely suck. One main reason to fly an early war plane in LW is not to get a fix on any specific plane, but the challenge to fly a Hurri I or A6M2 in a combat environment with much more capable planes. And it would hardly increase EW population at all, because there are more problems with that arena than just a redundant plane set.
It wouldn't suck and you know it! It'd spread the population out between the different arenas the way they should be instead of everybody being bunched up in the LW arenas! What's the purpose of having an Early and Mid war arena if nobody goes there? Yup....score whoring and perk farming. Just the things this thread was posted about. The only reason to fly a Hurri I or a A6M2 in LW is to perk farm too! Push those planes and pilots into their own arenas where they belong!
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It wouldn't suck and you know it! It'd spread the population out between the different arenas the way they should be instead of everybody being bunched up in the LW arenas!
It will absolutely not.
. The only reason to fly a Hurri I or a A6M2 in LW is to perk farm too!
Nonsense. Mid- ENY planes are much more effective perk farmers. I fly Hurri I Spit V or I-16 for fun. And the most fun is to kill a F4U or SPit 16 in them. And don't forget the show-off factor when landing 8 kills in a Hurri I in LW ;)
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That's a tad shortsighted, no? The argument has far less to do with perks than it does fairness.... Early war "objects" were def not as reinforced as they were in late war. As with the technology evolving in ordinance, so with reinforcement.
Ya lets make it easier to earn them perk points, and reset those maps! :rolleyes:
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you missed the point... you have to bomb the town in every arena, to take the field, but the hardness/settings are all set to resist massive bombloads that b17s-b24s-lancs etc carry in LW, for town buildings/FH/ord/everything is set to a hardness that helps them resist LW fighters with massive ord options or LW bombers with there massive bombloads. but in EW, you cant do with a b25 what you can with a b24, and most fighters can only carry 1-2 bombs, (i think the perked p38G is the only plane that carries rockets except for the TBM, but thats a bomber). do you see what im trying to get at? most ppl get frustrated trying to deal with LW settings using limited EW planes, and this is most likely why they dont want to stick around, too much time waisted with such little gain.
Yeah, I got that. What I am saying is why go to the EW to shoot at buildings? You can do that in the MA. EW is for the planes, that is what is different. If you look at the image of the OP you will see what I am talking about. Why are they there fighting buildings? Why pay for that and not do it off line?
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That's a tad shortsighted, no? The argument has far less to do with perks than it does fairness.... Early war "objects" were def not as reinforced as they were in late war. As with the technology evolving in ordinance, so with reinforcement.
Seeing as the game parallels a WWII scenario you saying that early in the war they had weaker buildings (cause they are bombing towns here, no need to hit FH or VHs as nobody is upping against them) and such and as the war progressed they reinforced all those builds and that is why the strength of the ordnance was increased, I seeeee :O A 250lb bomb is a 250lb bomb
I know, I know, this is a game, not the war :D However the premise of the early war arena is the equipment is weaker than the late war arena. The planes carried less ordinance, and small values. The EW arena is a milk run arena already, by making it easier to to take out buildings and such your not going to increase the population in the arena, all your going to do is have the milk runners resetting the maps faster.
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I should point out that I do not think 250lb objects should be changed, just hangers. A 250gp bomb IRL, may or may not have taken down a whole building in a town, so no need to make the buildings any weaker.
How that (softer hangers) plays into the EW gameplay I am unsure, I do not visit all that often but it certainly seems "fair."
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A screenshot of a screenshot!
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It's a shame they don't make arena-specific perks. Make people use them where they earn them; that would stop a lot of this BS.
It would probably stop ALL of it. unless they really think they are really fighting a war in there.. :rolleyes: too hard to take a base in LW with maybe some defense? No prob, we can do it in EW with zero defenders! WTG WTG WTG! "lets keep this rolling" - "I'll bring the goon!" WTG WTG WTG! :rofl
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A moment or picture in time does not always tell the entire story. Klam I remember a nice battle for a port the day you were there and you were not alone at the time.
Hope you make it back some time or try Mid War.
Someone has to plant the seed so I encourage all you late war types to give EW a try. I promise if you show up and I am there you will at least have a target.
Oh and check my stats and you will see I have no need for late war perks. EW/MW only here.
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EW should get the axe. Just my opinion.
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EW should get the axe. Just my opinion.
But why Bi-Polar
How about coming up with some ideas to make it better or more populated.
How about this. FSO and scenarios are popular. EW is a good places to come practice those plane sets in context.
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One guy can really throw a wrench in the works of the overpopulated side, especially if you're sneaky about it.
I almost forgot all the fun I had chasing base taking squads around in the EW. Great fun!!
The battles I had for the most part were easy to find and very low.
No wasting time climbing to ridiculous alts.
Hunting the goons, porking troops and ord etc.
Jeeeez, those were the days.
Apparently its still going on, I WILL be going in very soon to join the festivities!! :banana:
Great arena for guys complaining about not being able to find a fight.
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DO we care how fast the maps get reset in EW or MW???DO we care how many perks someone gets milkrunning??
I dont,why do you? Is someone resetting maps in an arena cutting into your $15 a month FUN? If it is,then go and do what boner is talking about,go in and HAVE FUN shooting them down,I mean,if you dont ever go in there WHY CARE??????
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EW arena is simply worthless.
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EW arena is simply worthless.
LOL more negativity with no worth while input.
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But why Bi-Polar
How about coming up with some ideas to make it better or more populated.
How about this. FSO and scenarios are popular. EW is a good places to come practice those plane sets in context.
#1 it is Bipolar. One word no dash
#2 HTC or you pays me money. Then I will invest the time to think. And sell you my ideas.
#3 Why practice in EW when you can get the same planes and more players in LW?
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EW arena is simply worthless.
98% of the planes available in LW are worthless. Let's just have 2 planes, 2 GV's and one arena with one map and only one side people can be on. Choice is a bad thing. :rolleyes:
When is the last time you spent any time anywhere other than your vaunted Late War Orange arena? How would anything that happens anywhere else in the game affect you?
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98% of the planes available in LW are worthless. Let's just have 2 planes, 2 GV's and one arena with one map and only one side people can be on. Choice is a bad thing. :rolleyes:
When is the last time you spent any time anywhere other than your vaunted Late War Orange arena? How would anything that happens anywhere else in the game affect you?
What is the fun in hording a base that has no defenders? And the chance of it having one are about 0.000001%.
Bet you WTG yourselves after each take don't ya?
Its hard work killing buildings isn't it?
You EW boys stay there cause you cant hang in LW.
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I first started out in the off line arena about five years ago. I then went on line in the old big map system. Then HTC spit the arenas about that time. I went to the EW arena because it was slower paced than the LW arena. For me it was a great place to learn the game. I liked the fact that there was a limited set of planes all pretty much on the same footing in performance. Even the FW190A5 can be handled with the 109-F4 and the right pilot. I liked the folks I met there and we had a better turn out in EW at that time.
Later as I got the hang of things I went to the LW arena just for more action and a bigger set of tanks to pick from. As for using EW for a perk farm. I have a combined total of near 20.000 perk points save up. It they were S&H green stamps I could have got a new car buy now. The fact is I almost never use perk points because I just don't fly perk planes and only lately with the perking on the M4A3/76 do I use GV perks. So when I drop into MW or EW it is not about perks or bombing towns. It is too bad the arena is not used more maybe we need a EW night once a month where only EW is available and do the same with MW. Then see how your skill is with a P40-B a Hurri 1 or the F4 because it is a new ball game then.
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Woo 2 bites in 40 minutes.
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Woo 2 bites in 40 minutes.
Can you imagine all the bites you would get if you said the spit was worthless? wow
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98% of the planes available in LW are worthless. Let's just have 2 planes, 2 GV's and one arena with one map and only one side people can be on. Choice is a bad thing. :rolleyes:
When is the last time you spent any time anywhere other than your vaunted Late War Orange arena? How would anything that happens anywhere else in the game affect you?
Whenever I go in there there is always 5 squads hording 1 or 2 players. whats the point of even defending? Upping your skills in a 15v1 dogfight? Though I always enjoy a good dogfight, I'd rather fight a battle where I have a minimal chance of me getting out alive.
A typical 'mission' in the EW:
T34s roll to a town, Ju88s or Lancs up, Hurri IICs up and both attack the base. WTG's all around the arena. They freak out when one con ups. I think I went in there a couple other times to burn some perks since the 234 wasn't working for me.
Can you imagine all the bites you would get if you said the spit was worthless? wow
LOL! We could try that some time.
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What is the fun in hording a base that has no defenders? And the chance of it having one are about 0.000001%.
Bet you WTG yourselves after each take don't ya?
Its hard work killing buildings isn't it?
You EW boys stay there cause you cant hang in LW.
I'm mostly defense.
Hordes provide me with lots of targets.
I enjoy flying EW planes.
I enjoy not having to fly up to 20k+ to find a fight and hope I'm at least co-alt at the start.
I can hang in LW just fine, but choose to stay away because of the constant BS attitudes, chest thumping and elitist comments like what you've provided here.
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I can hang in LW just fine, but choose to stay away because of the constant BS attitudes, chest thumping and elitist comments like what you've provided here.
Heh, this is funny, but true. Odd to think of LW flyers thinking of themselves as "elitist" though.
I get out of the AvA arena once a month or so. Very late one night last weekend I went into EW. The sides were fairly well balanced in numbers, everyone was flying fighters in aerial combat, I saw lots of talent. Could have been a Twilight Zone aberration, I suppose, but it was certainly not what the OP's snapshot captured.
I think it's sad that all of the people I met picked the most uber of the available planes, but they do that in LW arenas too.
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not everyone who goes in EW are "score hoars"...
A lot of of the P40 kills of late are just blatant. Take off in plane fly out to awaiting P40 Dead wash rinse & repeat.
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But why Bi-Polar
How about coming up with some ideas to make it better or more populated.
How about this. FSO and scenarios are popular. EW is a good places to come practice those plane sets in context.
You mean to milkrun bases. One idea jumping out at us is looking at the 8 vs 1. But then again, if you switched sides, you couldn't get the reset perks as easy.
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"A moment or picture in time does not always tell the entire story. Klam I remember a nice battle for a port the day you were there and you were not alone at the time."
What part of this did you not understand Masherbum?
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What is the fun in hording a base that has no defenders? And the chance of it having one are about 0.000001%.
Bet you WTG yourselves after each take don't ya?
Its hard work killing buildings isn't it?
You EW boys stay there cause you cant hang in LW.
If they are having fun working alone as a team defeating the AI and taking the base why should you care anyway? fun police at work Im afraid.
The "cant hang in LW" is a retarded thing to say.
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"A moment or picture in time does not always tell the entire story. Klam I remember a nice battle for a port the day you were there and you were not alone at the time."
What part of this did you not understand Masherbum?
2 (Sabreone and myself) vs 8. Keep the misspellings up, it gets me laughing. You roll bases to use the perks in the LWA's.
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Odd to think of LW flyers thinking of themselves as "elitist" though.
Really? Almost every post I see regarding any arena other than the [most popular] of the two LW arenas basically smacks of looking down their nose and saying things like this shining example:
You EW boys stay there cause you cant hang in LW.
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Wondering where the KN guys are to explain that P40B/T34 bit? They normally like to join threads like this :)
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You roll bases to use the perks in the LWA's.
Who cares? :rolleyes:
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not everyone who goes in EW are "score hoars"...
True, the "Rowdy Rebels" squad member is Rook, 94.9% of the time in EW, same with the 337th members. I have never seen the 527th FBS member as anything other than a Rook. The 66th FG member I have never seen before. HOWEVER, the lone SOAR member in there I have never not seen as a Bish, until now. My point being that the only one I see positively engaging in score hoaring, beyond a reasonable doubt, is YOU!
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True, the "Rowdy Rebels" squad member is Rook, 94.9% of the time in EW, same with the 337th members. I have never seen the 527th FBS member as anything other than a Rook. The 66th FG member I have never seen before. HOWEVER, the lone SOAR member in there I have never not seen as a Bish, until now. My point being that the only one I see positively engaging in score hoaring, beyond a reasonable doubt, is YOU!
SOAR changed from bish to rooks along time ago, i just dont go into EW much anymore,yesterday was the first time i'd been in there this month. thats why it was your first time seeing me as a rook in there.
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But why Bi-Polar
Because you can't fix people.
How about coming up with some ideas to make it better or more populated.
kill it so that maybe the MW or AvA can get a couple of more tool shed fighters
How about this. FSO and scenarios are popular. EW is a good places to come practice those plane sets in context.
They can practice in the DA, TA, MW, LW. That place is not used for practice as you would easily see if you tried it a few times.
That been said, I can see why BP said to kill it. I don;t think it hurts having it, but definitely no gains there either.
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I see guys post stuff about SOAR and EW that I know never even came to EW back 2 or 3 yrs ago when that squad played EW a lot. It is hear say they have been told by other guys that came to that arena to teach SOAR a lesson and got spanked. The SOAR stories are like some old Indian folklore that gets pass from generation to generation. There is only two SOAR members that still play regularly. Nether play EW and have not for many moons. I stay in SOAR just because of the whines I see and hear like in the BBS.
It is not the fault an any particular squad if no one comes to an arena that a group of people like to play in. I think people don't like EW because of the plane set. If they can't get a 262 to go shoot down a goon with they don,t want to play. The people who did fly EW learned to make do with less
and got better doing it and a good time was had by all. After all it is their $14.95.
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I see guys post stuff about SOAR and EW that I know never even came to EW back 2 or 3 yrs ago when that squad played EW a lot. It is hear say they have been told by other guys that came to that arena to teach SOAR a lesson and got spanked. The SOAR stories are like some old Indian folklore that gets pass from generation to generation. There is only two SOAR members that still play regularly. Nether play EW and have not for many moons. I stay in SOAR just because of the whines I see and hear like in the BBS.
It is not the fault an any particular squad if no one comes to an arena that a group of people like to play in. I think people don't like EW because of the plane set. If they can't get a 262 to go shoot down a goon with they don,t want to play. The people who did fly EW learned to make do with less
and got better doing it and a good time was had by all. After all it is their $14.95.
sad to say it, but it looks like SOAR is pretty much done, our CO hasent been on in over a month, and we dont rly do much else but fly in the MA scattered. kind of sad. we had some great teamwork going on during the summer in EW. :(
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I see guys post stuff about SOAR and EW that I know never even came to EW back 2 or 3 yrs ago when that squad played EW a lot. It is hear say they have been told by other guys that came to that arena to teach SOAR a lesson and got spanked. The SOAR stories are like some old Indian folklore that gets pass from generation to generation. There is only two SOAR members that still play regularly. Nether play EW and have not for many moons. I stay in SOAR just because of the whines I see and hear like in the BBS.
Who?
It is not the fault an any particular squad if no one comes to an arena that a group of people like to play in. I think people don't like EW because of the plane set. If they can't get a 262 to go shoot down a goon with they don,t want to play. The people who did fly EW learned to make do with less
and got better doing it and a good time was had by all. After all it is their $14.95.
Very true. All I see in the MW and LW is 262s chasing goons :noid
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nice new map in EW right now.
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That's a tad shortsighted, no? The argument has far less to do with perks than it does fairness.... Early war "objects" were def not as reinforced as they were in late war. As with the technology evolving in ordinance, so with reinforcement.
Come on ... a building in the 30s was weaker than the same build in the 40s ? :huh
Buildings get stronger as they get older ? :huh
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I see guys post stuff about SOAR and EW that I know never even came to EW back 2 or 3 yrs ago when that squad played EW a lot. It is hear say they have been told by other guys that came to that arena to teach SOAR a lesson and got spanked. The SOAR stories are like some old Indian folklore that gets pass from generation to generation. There is only two SOAR members that still play regularly. Nether play EW and have not for many moons. I stay in SOAR just because of the whines I see and hear like in the BBS.
It is not the fault an any particular squad if no one comes to an arena that a group of people like to play in. I think people don't like EW because of the plane set. If they can't get a 262 to go shoot down a goon with they don,t want to play. The people who did fly EW learned to make do with less
and got better doing it and a good time was had by all. After all it is their $14.95.
I know at one time, the SOARS came into MW thinking that they would reek havoc like they were in EW ... it didn't work out well for them.
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Come on ... a building in the 30s was weaker than the same build in the 40s ? :huh
Buildings get stronger as they get older ? :huh
its not really an argument of how strong the buildings are, just how much reinforced they are (represented by there hardness scale).
at the begining of the war, buildings werent as heavily fortified because not every country knew what the other was truly capable of, as bomb raids, etc commenced through the war buildings were more heavily fortified to try to withstand the massive bombloads that later bombers could carry.
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its not really an argument of how strong the buildings are, just how much reinforced they are (represented by there hardness scale).
at the begining of the war, buildings werent as heavily fortified because not every country knew what the other was truly capable of, as bomb raids, etc commenced through the war buildings were more heavily fortified to try to withstand the massive bombloads that later bombers could carry.
Um, nop, houses were not fortified. However, it is clear that you go to the EW to fight buildings. The correct approach would be to ask HT to perk the town buildings since they seem too be putting up such a fight. Maybe an ENY of 5 for the church and ENY of 6 for the houses? Replace the ack with 303 guns also? I mean, buildings should not be able to put up such a good fight against elite fighter pilot squads :old:
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Um, nop, houses were not fortified. However, it is clear that you go to the EW to fight buildings. The correct approach would be to ask HT to perk the town buildings since they seem too be putting up such a fight. Maybe an ENY of 5 for the church and ENY of 6 for the houses? Replace the ack with 303 guns also? I mean, buildings should not be able to put up such a good fight against elite fighter pilot squads :old:
your missing what i mean, and your sarcasm is stale.
when i say buildings, im not JUST talking about the town, i mean the field buildings as well, fh,bh,vh, etc.
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To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?
By making EWA free-access i think it will lure more people in the game. Once you get the new players lured & hooked they'll be motivated to subscribe in order to gain access to bigger, faster, stronger and much more lethal warbirds and tanks in mid and late war arenas :aok
Then if early war free play is implemented I think non-subscribers should be bombarded with pop-up-ads everytime the player logs in and logs out
for example:
- catchy Flash-based video ad and/or "propaganda"-style pictoral ad encouraging new people and non-subs to pay.
- ads for PC parts and joysticks...imagine HTC partnering with newegg for PC parts ad, HTC and Thrustmaster for joystick ad
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You foolish man... :uhoh Even in your first sentence therein lies history misleading you... Throughout all parts of Europe, from the start of the war, some civilian occupations granted the common folk certain privileges; one such being that masons, civil engineers and even one case of an architect, destroying his home when he poured concrete down into the open space between interior and exterior walls. ......He told us he wanted to add some protection for his family....... But I'm not talking about making town buildings softer, personally........
Um, nop, houses were not fortified. However, it is clear that you go to the EW to fight buildings. The correct approach would be to ask HT to perk the town buildings since they seem too be putting up such a fight. Maybe an ENY of 5 for the church and ENY of 6 for the houses? Replace the ack with 303 guns also? I mean, buildings should not be able to put up such a good fight against elite fighter pilot squads :old:
Like I've said before...... :old:
I should point out that I do not think 250lb objects should be changed, just hangers. A 250gp bomb IRL, may or may not have taken down a whole building in a town, so no need to make the buildings any weaker.
How that (softer hangers) plays into the EW gameplay I am unsure, I do not visit all that often but it certainly seems "fair."
You smart man! (shhh, leave it at that!) :aok
i mean the field buildings as well, fh,bh,vh, etc.
This thought has merit! :salute
To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?
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our CO hasent been on in over a month
That is because he is playing WoT.
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That is because he is playing WoT.
yea, i figured.
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To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?
By making EWA free-access i think it will lure more people in the game. Once you get the new players lured & hooked they'll be motivated to subscribe in order to gain access to bigger, faster, stronger and much more lethal warbirds and tanks in mid and late war arenas :aok
Then if early war free play is implemented I think non-subscribers should be bombarded with pop-up-ads everytime the player logs in and logs out
for example:
- catchy Flash-based video ad and/or "propaganda"-style pictoral ad encouraging new people and non-subs to pay.
- ads for PC parts and joysticks...imagine HTC partnering with newegg for PC parts ad, HTC and Thrustmaster for joystick ad
Every arena is already a free play arena...for the first two weeks of coming online. How would making EW permanently "free" help anything...especially if you spam potential subscribers with stupid ads and pleas to pay up.
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To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?
By making EWA free-access i think it will lure more people in the game. Once you get the new players lured & hooked they'll be motivated to subscribe in order to gain access to bigger, faster, stronger and much more lethal warbirds and tanks in mid and late war arenas :aok
Then if early war free play is implemented I think non-subscribers should be bombarded with pop-up-ads everytime the player logs in and logs out
for example:
- catchy Flash-based video ad and/or "propaganda"-style pictoral ad encouraging new people and non-subs to pay.
- ads for PC parts and joysticks...imagine HTC partnering with newegg for PC parts ad, HTC and Thrustmaster for joystick ad
only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.
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only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.
This statement is leaving me speechless in so many ways...
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only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.
You all stay on the same side and "fight" town ack to capture bases. You couldn't train a puppy.
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You all stay on the same side and "fight" town ack to capture bases. You couldn't train a puppy.
that town ack is the only ones brave enough to put up a fight against us in there.
why not come into EW and join the war? show us all how inferior you think we are.
unless of course, your used to LW EZ mode.... :rolleyes:
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To rejuvenate Early War Arena, how about HTC turn that arena into free play arena?
When I first read this I thought, "Hey, that just might work!"
But then I thought some more.
First: Coming from an arena which many players have condemned over the years, I am sensitive when people who don't fly in an arena suggest that it should be changed. All arenas - EW, MW, AvA, WWI, dueling and training - have fewer players at any given time than the LW arenas. Why pick EW as the arena to be sacrificed?
Second: Early war planes are, IMHO, the most difficult to fly well, mainly because they do not have the virtually unlimited engine power and colossal firepower of the late war planes. We point new players at Spitfires for good reasons; the Spit I, however, does not hold the same advantages for the new player as the later models, nor does any other EW plane (with the IIC being a possible exception).
If we were going to dedicate an existing arena to new players, it seems to me that the logical choice would be the dueling arena or one of the late war arenas. Creation of a new arena, for new players only, like AW had, has been discussed on these pages several times over the years. The consensus each time was that it's a bad idea.
- oldman
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You all stay on the same side and "fight" town ack to capture bases. You couldn't train a puppy.
I assume you are Karaya in game. If so in the past 5 tours in the main arenas you have registered 18 kills total and apparently killed some buildings also. So why are you so concerned about EW and what others are doing?
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I assume you are Karaya in game. If so in the past 5 tours in the main arenas you have registered 18 kills total and apparently killed some buildings also. So why are you so concerned about EW and what others are doing?
Thanks for looking up my scores. I've been burned out on AH after over 8.5 years of playing it. But I still pay my $14.95. Actually, under WMKaraya you'll notice more kills, but then again you're the smart one.
As for your last question we both know the answer to it, only you're afraid to admit it. :lol
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that town ack is the only ones brave enough to put up a fight against us in there.
why not come into EW and join the war? show us all how inferior you think we are.
unless of course, your used to LW EZ mode.... :rolleyes:
I did, you hid in the 5" guns. You realize the other night I shot you down in the DA and had bombs still attached to my plane? You have poor SA and need to use less vertical rolls. Keep practicing though.
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You foolish man... :uhoh Even in your first sentence therein lies history misleading you... Throughout all parts of Europe, from the start of the war, some civilian occupations granted the common folk certain privileges; one such being that masons, civil engineers and even one case of an architect, destroying his home when he poured concrete down into the open space between interior and exterior walls. ......He told us he wanted to add some protection for his family....... But I'm not talking about making town buildings softer, personally........
Like I've said before...... :old:
You smart man! (shhh, leave it at that!) :aok
This thought has merit! :salute
Take the hook out of your mouth LLogan. Dedalos is being sarcastic, :rofl
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I did, you hid in the 5" guns. You realize the other night I shot you down in the DA and had bombs still attached to my plane? You have poor SA and need to use less vertical rolls. Keep practicing though.
uh, no? i dont "realize" you did. because 1. there are not 5'inch guns in the DA. and two, why would you be carrying bombs in the DA?.
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only problem with this idea is that it could also kill any fun for the AH crowd that goes in there. some of us go there to actually have a fun "war". we use teamwork, etc to get things accomplished because we know what we're doing. now imagine if that room got swarmed by free people trying out aceshigh. the war would grind to a halt, there would be "noobs" everywheres that wouldnt know what they are doing,couldnt help us, and would most likely become cannon fire. and then we would prob become the new aces high training team, because the newbies would start asking us to help them once they found out we were "Veterens". and we'd be forced to if we wanted to get the war in there going again.
Must...not...post...facepalm. ..
(http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16363&stc=1&d=1265583144)
...sorry,couldn't resist the overwhelming fail of that statement.
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I actually enjoy the slow pace of EW to some extent. The low numbers tend to make the fights more "personal" and you get to learn to recognize your opponents by the tactics they use. The less powerful equipment with less powerful ammo makes combat more fun since you rarely kill anyone with one short burst. Fights last longer, and to me that's what it's all about - the fight and not the instant kills.
I also enjoy seeing new guys on their first day...full of excitement and energy. Sometimes too much energy and too many questions, but if I'm not busy fighting I'll give them the basics and answer what questions I can. I think what turns off more prospective subscribers than anything is the flippant remarks and "joke" answers that noobs get in most arenas. But, forcing them all into EW would be a detriment. I can see many score-and-perk-potato people lurking in there, knowing that it would be full of noobs for easy kills. If I were a two-weeker, getting killed the second my wheels go up, over and over and over, would turn me off the game forever.
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If I were a two-weeker, getting killed the second my wheels go up, over and over and over, would turn me off the game forever.
If that were true in my case I would have never made it past my first 20 minutes. My very first foray into online gaming found me at some airfield in WBs that was involved in an intense vultchfest. I think I died 24 times in a row before figuring out that I neededto spawn somewhere else. I loved it :)
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Well said Imadot. <S>
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your missing what i mean, and your sarcasm is stale.
when i say buildings, im not JUST talking about the town, i mean the field buildings as well, fh,bh,vh, etc.
How did I miss it? Once again, you state that your intent is to fight buildings. Does the name of them matter?
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I assume you are Karaya in game. If so in the past 5 tours in the main arenas you have registered 18 kills total and apparently killed some buildings also. So why are you so concerned about EW and what others are doing?
I know right? He needs at list 19 kills before having an opinion :noid
Why don't you use years of play as a stat? Maybe your opinion wont count then? :lol
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Anyone who plays in EW ever even seen this dedalos dude in there. If not then why is he such an expert on EW?
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I am done with this topic, have fun on the forum I am going to kill some buildings and gain perk points that I'll never use. Yall are welcome to come stop us.
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:rofl
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Anyone who plays in EW ever even seen this dedalos dude in there. If not then why is he such an expert on EW?
I am going off of what he said. Does not take an expert to read :D
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How did I miss it? Once again, you state that your intent is to fight buildings. Does the name of them matter?
buildings were placed in game to be destroyed. stop being such an obtuse holier than thou pufferstuffer :neener:
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Anyone who plays in EW ever even seen this dedalos dude in there. If not then why is he such an expert on EW?
he is just like the rest of us. nothing less, nothing more.
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Anyone who plays in EW ever even seen this dedalos dude in there. If not then why is he such an expert on EW?
Does it matter? If so, why?
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buildings were placed in game to be destroyed.
I agree. Its the guy that wants to kill them that seems to disagree :D
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Wow! All this attention. We have no motive for playing in EW just having some fun. Personally I don't fly that well
(check my stats). Just trying to take some bases and have fun.
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It is a lot of fun today. :aok
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Wow! All this attention. We have no motive for playing in EW just having some fun. Personally I don't fly that well
(check my stats). Just trying to take some bases and have fun.
But you're not having fun the way "they" think you're supposed to.
"They" think you're not having as much fun as they are.
"They" want to help you have as much fun as they are, by playing the way they want you to.
"They" look down on your kind of fun.
"Their" fun is superior to yours.