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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Tarstar on January 15, 2011, 02:46:33 PM
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I was wondering if it would be possible to make Manual Bomber Calibration a selectable option in the Main Arenas.. As it stands, I think, the arena calibration mode can only be changed in the arena set up.. Could this be changed to a selectable option under preferences? I've come to prefer the manual method used in special events..
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Now that's the best wish I've seen in years!!!
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Have it under Stall Limiter. :aok
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Have it under Stall Limiter. :aok
Yeah exactly.. I'm hoping they'll consider it :cheers:
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Please explain further....how is it done manually? :salute
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Please explain further....how is it done manually? :salute
"Manual Calibration" Is simply a different method of calibrating the bomb sight.. It involves a couple more steps than the "Auto Calibration" method currently used in the Main arenas.. Some would say it's a bit more difficult than "Auto Calibration". The only time it is really used anymore is for certain special events and scenarios (It is my understanding that this was the original calibration method used in the game).. I know there is a more detailed thread on it somewhere, I'll try to dig it up at some point and post a link here..
Currently it is only enabled in the arena settings.. I'm asking HTC if they could make it an option from our personal settings in all arenas..
I'll try to post a link about it tomorrow. :salute
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Here's a link to a "Manual Calibration" Guide..
http://members.cox.net/srmalloy/AH/Bombing.html
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I was wondering if it would be possible to make Manual Bomber Calibration a selectable option in the Main Arenas.. As it stands, I think, the arena calibration mode can only be changed in the arena set up.. Could this be changed to a selectable option under preferences? I've come to prefer the manual method used in special events..
i dig it also, yess!
more complex, but quicker, if you're good at it :)
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Skuzzy,
Would this be very difficult to do? Do you guys have a reason for not wishing to do it? :joystick:
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Stop by the AvA, it is set for manual calibration. :cheers: Totally tough to explain and a royal pain in the arse, but it can be fun every now and again. Several steps are needed for an accurate calibration.
Please explain further....how is it done manually? :salute
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i was bumbed when they took it out of the MA in favor of the lazer guided bombs we have now. Guess a few extra steps is to just to much for the gamers
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I believe the reason that manual calibration was dropped in MA was to level the playing field. The accuracy and functionality of a player's controller affected the calibration.
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I believe the reason that manual calibration was dropped in MA was to level the playing field. The accuracy and functionality of a player's controller affected the calibration.
I see.. Would be nice if it was added as an option for those who want an extra challenge.. :pray
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they should enable wind in the MA then, something to blow the bombs slightly off course, would make up for the push button bomb site we have now.
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they should enable wind in the MA then, something to blow the bombs slightly off course, would make up for the push button bomb site we have now.
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they should enable wind in the MA then, something to blow the bombs slightly off course, would make up for the push button bomb site we have now.
I agree.. But can we keep this thread on the calibration Question? I doubt you'll see wind in the MA.. But yeah I'd like to see it too.. :salute
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+1 for calibration option....
but please add wind in too.... We have it enabled in AvA and it adds a whole new level to the game.
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Frankly, I'd rather some sort of dot mode calibration (which should be really easy to do).
.calibrate alt 15000
.calibrate spd 255
and have the bombsight cross move to that angle regardless of what speed or altitude you are actually at.
I agree that WIND should be brought into the arenas to end the laser guided bomb effect. A dot mode calibration would actually be a lot more realistic, and you could also implement a windage system as well -
.calibrate wind -2 (a left or right windage angle).
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I believe some of you misunderstand how manual calibration works. Wind drift is factored into a good calibration, so you're going to miss the target if you're adding some additional adjustment by feel for the wind. Or, your speed has changed or the drop altitude was not set properly.
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That would make EasyMode, SUPER-EASYMODE.
Frankly, I'd rather some sort of dot mode calibration (which should be really easy to do).
.calibrate alt 15000
.calibrate spd 255
and have the bombsight cross move to that angle regardless of what speed or altitude you are actually at.
I agree that WIND should be brought into the arenas to end the laser guided bomb effect. A dot mode calibration would actually be a lot more realistic, and you could also implement a windage system as well -
.calibrate wind -2 (a left or right windage angle).
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"Manual" calibration was not the original form used in the game.
The system we have in use now was a derivation of it and a step back toward the original. Originally there was no calibration at all and it was a matter of just a matter of putting the cross on the target and it was a hit. That was very popular but was seen to be too simple with the increased firepower that the introduction of "drones" was to bring to the game. What you are calling manual was only used for a short time. It's biggest impact on the game was to drastically reduce the amount of people willing to fly bombers. Responding to the high level of unpopularity, HTC changed to a simpler form of the calibration system that essentially removes the direction aspect.
You are required to get solutions for height, speed and direction with "manual". You now are just calibrating to get solutions for height and speed, but not direction. "Originally" you were not required to calibrate solutions for any of these. Reductions in bomb blast radius and an increase in the randomness of speed calibration were brought in to balance the bombing power of the "trio".
The more complex calibration did make it much easier to sink ships. You simply calibrated on the moving object and it did all the lead sums for you. That was popular. It did however require you to keep your head inside the cockpit for lengthy periods of time. When you turned about to return to the target you had to start calibrating all over again. Since a fighter defence was usually active at this time, it normally meant that second and further calibrations weren't able to be done. It seemed that you never got more than one successful pass. Frustration abounded (and was expressed loudly and often).
People responded in a few different ways. The larger group gave up bombing entirely as it now brought poor results and chewed up a lot of time for very little impact. Others learnt the secret to making a game impact was to make only the first run and at bomb release, bail out, and get another trio on the way as fast as possible.
The other choice was to come in low and bomb everything from about 700 feet by eye. This became the most popular method in prime time. A small minority came in above 25k. Complaints by other players added to the noise coming from bomber drivers.
HTC, I suspect, will reintroduce "manual" calibration in the MA when they feel that their day is too long and boring and that dealing with a couple of thousand complaints from the community would be a great way to pass the time.
A system for handicapping yourself only would be acceptable of course. The problem, I'm guessing, is that it is a system setting currently set by a flag on the server requiring possibly a lot of work to change it to individual choice. I don't know. If it is difficult to do and requires a lot of work, then I'm guessing (again), that a great number of people would rather see them spending the time on introducing new bombing types instead. I know I would.
rgds
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I believe some of you misunderstand how manual calibration works. Wind drift is factored into a good calibration, so you're going to miss the target if you're adding some additional adjustment by feel for the wind. Or, your speed has changed or the drop altitude was not set properly.
I understand perfectly how manual calibration works, been doing it for almost 10 years. Im saying wind should affect the drop of the bombs with the current set up. The current calibration method is ridiculous if you ask me. Making the wind affect bomb drop would compensate for the easy mode calibration we have now.
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This would be a great option for the MA! I would love to see it.
Maybe a fraction of a perk bonus for doing it the "hard" way?
Big +1 for adding it as an option :aok
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I'm up for this. This would really keep the bombing game interesting. Go for it!!! :aok
I'm not sure if it would be best done by Keystroke or by "." command. But I like it.
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I've been following this and I see a lot of reference to the "old game". Problem is that some of us weren't there then. In and of itself that's fine. I'll learn from you guys. However, those of us that weren't there then have precious little opportunity (AvA) to practice what we are called upon to do in FSO and other special events. Trying to sharpen my skills!
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I've been following this and I see a lot of reference to the "old game". Problem is that some of us weren't there then. In and of itself that's fine. I'll learn from you guys. However, those of us that weren't there then have precious little opportunity (AvA) to practice what we are called upon to do in FSO and other special events. Trying to sharpen my skills!
The AvA is open for business every day! and to be honest the middle of the day would be the best time for you if you strictly want to just practice calibration as odds are no one will be in at the time to hassle you. Even if just a few were on most are respectful and just shoot a message saying your practicing manual calibration and odds are they will leave you alone, i know i would.
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I think that's a good idea. I know when it comes time to practice for scenarios, it's a pain to go to one of the other arenas or offline to do it.
Don't know if a perk bonus is warranted, all that would do is make Lancstukaing more profitable if they leave the bombsight they're not using on manual calibration.
Wiley.
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As far as 'super easy mode' goes, nothing beats the current system, and it really is very little different from calibrating with the angle with dot commands as I requested earlier. Once calibrated on the 'current' system (with joystick holding a point for a few seconds) you get an alt and speed setting. You can guarantee laser precision by just chopping your throttle down so that your speed matches the calibrated sight speed over your target and BOOM - laser precision hits every time.
The ONLY thing that is going to stop the ridiculous 'put it in the pickle barrel everytime' bombing accuracy is some having wind in the arena to make the bombs change course. If the bombardier does not know what the wind is between himself and the target on the ground, he cannot adjust for it. He can 'take a guess' and put a left / right windage setting into the bombsight, or set his speed up or down a few mph to account for headwind or tailwind.
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Don't know if a perk bonus is warranted, all that would do is make Lancstukaing more profitable if they leave the bombsight they're not using on manual calibration.
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As far as 'super easy mode' goes, nothing beats the current system, and it really is very little different from calibrating with the angle with dot commands as I requested earlier. Once calibrated on the 'current' system (with joystick holding a point for a few seconds) you get an alt and speed setting. You can guarantee laser precision by just chopping your throttle down so that your speed matches the calibrated sight speed over your target and BOOM - laser precision hits every time.
The ONLY thing that is going to stop the ridiculous 'put it in the pickle barrel everytime' bombing accuracy is some having wind in the arena to make the bombs change course. If the bombardier does not know what the wind is between himself and the target on the ground, he cannot adjust for it. He can 'take a guess' and put a left / right windage setting into the bombsight, or set his speed up or down a few mph to account for headwind or tailwind.
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you dont even have to use the joystick, you only have to hold the button down.......