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Title: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: xtyger on January 25, 2011, 04:44:15 PM
Ok. I have had enough. They made the towns too easy to capture. This has created poor game play conditions in the Mid War arena, as far as I'm concerned. The problem being the strategic play squadrons that just want to capture bases and roll the map. This makes it too easy for them and reduces fighting time for everyone else.

It got worse when the Joker's Jokers Squadron decided to start playing Midwar. They horde bases, thus game play mostly amounts to seeing how far down the runway you can get before they vulch you. Two strat squadrons are too much for any arena.

My suggestion is to have two Midwar Arenas and, hopefully, have one arena with the old damage system where towns would be harder to capture. That way, the strat squadrons would tend to go to the easy capture arena and vulch, capture and roll maps to their hearts content. The rest of us that prefer doing a bit more than that could play in the harder capture arena.

The only problem I see is Midwar often doesn't have enough people even for good play in one arena. Still, when the strat squadrons (Joker's Jokers in particular) show up, it doesn't make it worth staying in the arena anyway.

I also don't know if they could make one arena harder to make captures in than another, but they change settings in the AvA arena all the time so I'm guessing it's possible. Even if they had both arenas with easy capture, it would leave another arena for players to go to so they could avoid the pure strat players.

Seems to me the worst that could happen if this was done is one arena stays empty. Let the flaming begin!  :rock
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: DeadStik on January 25, 2011, 05:03:10 PM
You said it yourself. There aren't enough people to go around. You'd be flying in the arena alone.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: xtyger on January 25, 2011, 05:08:39 PM
Maybe, but I'd like to see how it would work. If everybody hung in one arena it certainly would be a failure but, since the Jokers showed up a week or two ago, I've had some of the dullest time in that arena since I've been playing it. I wonder how many others feel the same way?
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: 5PointOh on January 25, 2011, 05:13:02 PM
Which squad are you in and whats you callsign...just curious.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 25, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
Which squad are you in and whats you callsign...just curious.


He's xtyger in game as well and he can easily be identified as one of the loudest whiners in the MW arena.  He should do what I did the other day in the MW arena when the Jokers were trying to take A43, I upped and defended the base and after a couple of attacks the Jokers moved on. 

I guess for some people it's just easier to whine than to do something to resolve the issue.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: 5PointOh on January 25, 2011, 06:52:37 PM
Thats what I do not get sometimes about AH.  Its not terribly difficult to stop a base capture.  Even against overwhelming odds.  They rather complain then try to stop it.

Having 2 MW arenas would be pointless. Or would it.  Perhaps everytime there is opposition, HTC should create a new arena. This way we all have our own little sandbox. 
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: Chilli on January 25, 2011, 07:55:56 PM
I feel your pain.  So, I will suggest some alternatives.  For me, it means that I try other arenas.  Today's Battle of the Bulge was interesting.  I found it wasn't my cup of tea, for some very small reasons, that mostly involve my own attention deficit.  It couldn't hurt to slip into one of the LW arenas and try and help a few guys take up a mission.  Go to the Dueling Arena and practice one pass hangar bangers in a Pony.  Go to the Training arena and just gain some great advice about ACM.  You could even go to the Axis versus Allies Arena and practice the manual bomb sight calibration to be used in an upcoming Special Event.  I do like the WWI airplanes, but I again have a limited attention span, so after a couple of rounds it is on to the next thing for me.

Base capture is not the problem.  The fact that base capture interferes with what you or your countrymen want to do, contradicts what the purpose of the capture system is supposed to accomplish.  Your complaint (and it is legitimate, I know I was there also today, and saw exactly what you described here), "someone is taking bases and they have too many people involved in taking the base" leaves this question.  Why don't more folks get together to take bases from the base takers?  It is just simple math for me. 

I can't tell you how to spend your time, but I do see a lot of this  :bhead < expecting different results.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: ImADot on January 25, 2011, 07:58:35 PM
Perhaps everytime there is opposition, HTC should create a new arena. This way we all have our own little sandbox

We already do...it's called "offline".  :D
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: 1Cane on January 25, 2011, 08:39:22 PM
Yep we rolled nit bases ,So what!
Took 1 Rook base and bogged down at A35 and were stopped their, Squadies went  to chow or drifted off the game balanced itself!Once you build momentum others join the fight!Would have liked to have taken A35 but met with stiff fighting and isn"t that what the game is about. As for Vulching thats one way of controlling the field so we could grt troops in
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: MachFly on January 26, 2011, 02:03:36 AM
-1, you explained why.

The only problem I see is Midwar often doesn't have enough people even for good play in one arena.


 :ahand
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: Yeager on January 26, 2011, 08:47:46 AM
I've enjoyed the Jokers last few forays into MW and hope they continue.  More targets = better gameplay.  IMO  :banana:
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: Debrody on January 26, 2011, 08:58:04 AM
If they are really superior in numbers, the ENY will limit their strenght. Then it will be fun to hunt down a horde of inferior planes. If they arent limited by the ENY, that means they arent really hording  ;)
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: ImADot on January 26, 2011, 09:00:42 AM
I've split my evenings into mapmaking sessions (just DL'd the Terrain Editor last week) and flying sessions.  Had lots of fun in MW last night.  Didn't pay attention to squad names, but helped defend some airbase against what seemed like the entire personnel of whatever side was attacking whatever side I was flying for*...until they got an LVT and three goons to town.

*Have I ever mentioned I switch sides all the time to find fights?   :D
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: grumpy37 on January 26, 2011, 09:25:30 AM

you side switcher you!  I think the Jokers have come in, at NKL5's request, to help fight the usual nit horde which is almost entirely VF-15 Playmates.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: xtyger on January 26, 2011, 09:38:57 AM
One of the Jokers pm'ed me yesterday when I asked why they started coming to MidWar and said they were just there to hassle Satan's Sissies, VF 15. Seemed ok to me, except when the Knights got low numbers and I switched to Knight. Then there wasn't much fight to be had except trying to get off the runway.

One thing about the Sissies, despite being a strat horde type squadron, they usually take the town down and then cap the field. The Jokers seem to go for the airfield vulch first.

While Yaeger may enjoy the Jokers being in MidWar, the first day I noticed them there was one of the most boring days I've spent in the arena. I spent probably two hours there with only one kill and an assist to show for it.

I was either on the Jokers' side while they shut down bases and vulched or, after I switched to the knights to look for more action, they started attacking the knights. That meant, of course, starting out by shutting down the airfield and vulching uppers from the start.

I abandoned that field and went looking for a fight somewhere without success, only finding myself with a couple guys from the VF15 attacking an undefended base. At that point I logged off right after seeing Joker land something like 8 kills he got hitting folks on the runway.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: xtyger on January 26, 2011, 09:42:38 AM
Thats what I do not get sometimes about AH.  Its not terribly difficult to stop a base capture.  Even against overwhelming odds.  They rather complain then try to stop it.

I'm not the only one who thinks base capture has been made too easy. I even heard one of the guys who hangs with Satan's Sissies- them being a base capture, map roll squadron- comment that it was too easy to take bases now.

I wouldn't mind the easy capture if it was only on certain crappy maps, like Mesa, Mesa View and that baby s**t green vehicle base map, but we lose the good maps too easy.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: R 105 on January 26, 2011, 10:01:42 AM
 I see people complain about hoarders taking bases all the time. If I pull up the clip board and check the base status I see the ords are still up at the base being used by the attacking country. Here is a clue to defending your base. GO PORK THERE ORDS. No ords and no troops = no base capture it is just that simple. Instead of whining get off you dead butts an do something to slow or stop them. Killing there assets at the base of operations is a good start. One guy in a plane like the P-51B can pork all four ords at a large field and fly away, I do it all the time.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: waystin2 on January 26, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: morgee256 on January 27, 2011, 01:20:22 AM
Its actually very funny cos now when the playmates realise the jokers are on, they all log off. Infact yesterday they all logged off 8 minutes after the jokers took their first base. They ate more content to wine on the forums than give us a real fight!!!!
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: Chilli on January 27, 2011, 05:25:15 AM
 :headscratch: Why was this arena created again?

I have to laugh at what Imadot said about offline practice.  :D Folks asked for arenas where they weren't attacked by Me262s and got one, errr 3 new ones when they updated. 

What is more perplexing, most folks have not figured out that easing base taking, works both ways.  I spam about it on country all the time.  Why meet the horde head on, unless you have a reasonable chance of stopping the assault, that includes destroying their ords, getting defenders up in time, getting ground vehicles to the town, etc.  This is a lot of effort for one base.  Possibly could take 2 or 3 bases with the same amount of effort.

Still, is stinks when someone wizzes in your sandbox.  Stinks even more when two or more are trying to mark their territory.   :eek:
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: shermanjr on January 28, 2011, 03:46:56 PM
i hear ya xtiger funny these ppls cominin in  mid war when no opposition is on and take evrything
Title: Re: A Second Mid War Arena
Post by: flatiron1 on January 28, 2011, 06:15:57 PM
Don't leave xtigger, I like killing you.