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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Dragon on January 27, 2011, 04:47:52 PM
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OK, so I am completely fed up with Vista. Can I run 7 on 2 comps that I own or will I HAVE to get 2 disks? Anyone know for sure?
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Legally, each computer has to have its own license. There was a time where you could install the OS to two machines, as long as only one of them was being used at a time, but that went away with Windows XP, I believe.
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Actually, I never had a problem with XP being on 2 machines at the same time, did it for years. I figured 7 would have tighter controls though. Bummer.
You mentioned "legally". Without getting into hacks or anything, is it possible or is registration just too strict?
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This will allow you to install the upgrade on 3 systems.
It gives you a 32bit and 64bit disk so you can choose which one to use.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622)
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This will allow you to install the upgrade on 3 systems.
It gives you a 32bit and 64bit disk so you can choose which one to use.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622)
:aok :rock
Thanks usvi
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This will allow you to install the upgrade on 3 systems.
It gives you a 32bit and 64bit disk so you can choose which one to use.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622)
I'm surprised that is still available! Last year before christmas they had that (that's when I got it for $119) but they were all gone by mid december. I guess there's a little less demand now (or they made more of them this time around).
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This will allow you to install the upgrade on 3 systems.
It gives you a 32bit and 64bit disk so you can choose which one to use.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622)
Doesnt this have limitations?
I dont think the disks are bootable.
If you fubar the system and need to reinstall do you have to install vista or xp then upgrade again?
Will mirroring backup programs work with these disks?
Correct me if I am wrong..
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It is 3 licenses. I had forgotten about the family pack and thought it had died a while back.
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According to MSft you have to have XP installed already for the upgrade version to take your license. There are work arounds
Anyone having issues with the windows updater in win7 besides me? Seems to be OK with all of the drivers except for the intellipoint ones. Doesn't like a few of the recommended updates. I couldn't get adobe to load and found a different PDF reader.
Infidelz
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Foxit if Adobe isn't working for you. (google search it)
Bit less bloat than Adobe PDF reader.
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Doesnt this have limitations?
I dont think the disks are bootable.
If you fubar the system and need to reinstall do you have to install vista or xp then upgrade again?
Will mirroring backup programs work with these disks?
Correct me if I am wrong..
Yes you are wrong.
The disks ARE bootable.
They also contain the same information as a FULL INSTALL disk would. They have to, because there is no 'upgrade path' from XP to 7, which means an upgrade from XP requires a disk wipe whereas an upgrade from Vista doesn't (although I would recommend it anyway).
When in installed my first licence in nov '09 I wiped my hard drive first before installing it. I figured it would have asked for my old XP disk or the license number or something, but it never did. It went right through and even activated just like a full install would. This was the 64bit version.
I gave my dad license #2. His hard drive had crashed so I installed Win7 on his new drive. Again it went right on through never asking for the XP disk or number or anything.
License #3 went on my G/F's computer, and again.. a wipe/install went through without a hitch.
I had read about a 'registry hack' you can do on first boot to make it think that you just installed a full version disk and not an upgrade disk and was prepared to use that method should it become necessary, but it wasn't.
Because of my experience, I would say that it IS possible to install these disks just as you would a full version, but what is questionable is the legality of it all. I have no problems with mine because all three computers had legal, activated versions of XP installed beforehand.
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"They have to, because there is no 'upgrade path' from XP to 7, which means an upgrade from XP requires a disk wipe whereas an upgrade from Vista doesn't (although I would recommend it anyway)." -- tigger29
I didn't have to wipe my hdd to install Win7 over XP.
Win 7 automatically creates a directory called windows.old and saves all your programs and all the files from My Documents, photos... everything. Installing Win 7 over XP was the easiest Windows install I have done in almost 30 years since Windows 3.1. Now, that doesn't mean your old programs will run from there (you have to install in Win 7), but the files are there, which can be a big lifesaver.
It pains me to say this, but I have to give them credit, I think Microsoft really got Win 7 installation right.
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"They have to, because there is no 'upgrade path' from XP to 7, which means an upgrade from XP requires a disk wipe whereas an upgrade from Vista doesn't (although I would recommend it anyway)." -- tigger29
I didn't have to wipe my hdd to install Win7 over XP.
Win 7 automatically creates a directory called windows.old and saves all your programs and all the files from My Documents, photos... everything. Installing Win 7 over XP was the easiest Windows install I have done in almost 30 years since Windows 3.1. Now, that doesn't mean your old programs will run from there (you have to install in Win 7), but the files are there, which can be a big lifesaver.
It pains me to say this, but I have to give them credit, I think Microsoft really got Win 7 installation right.
+1 :aok Surprisingly Painless.
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"They have to, because there is no 'upgrade path' from XP to 7, which means an upgrade from XP requires a disk wipe whereas an upgrade from Vista doesn't (although I would recommend it anyway)." -- tigger29
I didn't have to wipe my hdd to install Win7 over XP.
Win 7 automatically creates a directory called windows.old and saves all your programs and all the files from My Documents, photos... everything. Installing Win 7 over XP was the easiest Windows install I have done in almost 30 years since Windows 3.1. Now, that doesn't mean your old programs will run from there (you have to install in Win 7), but the files are there, which can be a big lifesaver.
It pains me to say this, but I have to give them credit, I think Microsoft really got Win 7 installation right.
Yes Rolex, programs not working after the upgrade is exactly what 'no upgrade path' means. An upgrade means XP is upgraded with full functionality. Generally people recommend a full format after XP to ensure best possible functionality.
Win7 install is working pretty ok but it's horribly slow. Can take 40-50 minutes on certain computers with late hardware.
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The install process is open and notorious (surveyors method of saying its plain to everyone and easy to find). It is perfectly legal and only takes a little longer. This is for a clean install ONLY. XP cannot be upgraded with files and programs intact. While Vista can be I dont know anyone that would suggest it. The process is fully supported by Microsoft and is basically (method 3 from the Windows Super Site):
Boot from the CD and do a CUSTOM install but DO NOT enter the key. Do not update the install files and do not download any updates for the first install. Once you get to run Windows for the first time navigate to the Windows CD and run setup as an UPDATE and this time update setup and download updates as needed and also activate Windows when online (enter the CD key).
You can find a better written explanation of the process online at the Windows Super Site by author Paul Thurott (includes the aforementioned registry hack):
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/win7/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media.aspx
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Strictly speaking installing an upgrade to a computer that does not have an existing license to upgrade from is not legit. Even if you pay for the upgrade and even if you can or could do it. You still violate the EULA.
Kind of 'half pirating' I guess :) Like gaming the game.
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For the record, I have legit versions (separately purchased) of Vista on each comp, so piracy is not an issue, not sure why it even came up :furious
I ordered the 3-pack and should have it Tuesday.
I figure my daughters comp is going to need to be gutted and upgraded in the near future so the 3-pack is perfect. Thanks for the suggestion.
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This will allow you to install the upgrade on 3 systems.
It gives you a 32bit and 64bit disk so you can choose which one to use.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5224197&CatId=4622)
USVI thanks I have a couple of builds I have been asked to do and tiger is cheaper by 20 and shipping on OS than microsoft website.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/products/offers-family-pack.aspx
It will save me time on the builds.
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