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Title: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Mirage on January 28, 2011, 02:22:31 AM
SBD and D3A both have the option to take no bombs at all in the hangar, so can we have the same thing for the stuka? because its kind of a bummer when you want to take it to a furball and all the ords are down, which makes it so you cant fly the plane

that is all
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: bc21 on January 28, 2011, 06:16:25 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: MachFly on January 28, 2011, 08:36:28 AM
wait, wait, wait...wait you want to take a stuka to a furball?  :O

Try the C-47 it's alot better at furballing  :aok
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: ImADot on January 28, 2011, 09:49:15 AM
Actually, the Stuka is a great little "wait...how did you...I didn't know...how'd you shoot me down...the Stuka can't fly like that!" plane.  :airplane:
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
SBD and D3A both have the option to take no bombs at all in the hangar, so can we have the same thing for the stuka? because its kind of a bummer when you want to take it to a furball and all the ords are down, which makes it so you cant fly the plane

that is all
i'll pretend your not trolling and take your question serious for a second.


why not just simply jettison your bombs before takeoff? easy to do.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: VonMessa on January 28, 2011, 11:54:59 AM
i'll pretend your not trolling and take your question serious for a second.


why not just simply jettison your bombs before takeoff? easy to do.  :rolleyes:

Because you posted before you read the OP thoroughly, perhaps?


SBD and D3A both have the option to take no bombs at all in the hangar, so can we have the same thing for the stuka? because its kind of a bummer when you want to take it to a furball and all the ords are down, which makes it so you cant fly the plane

that is all

Carry On
 :salute

Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: The Fugitive on January 28, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Because when the ords are down it won't let you launch
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
Because you posted before you read the OP thoroughly, perhaps?


Carry On
 :salute


no, because i mentioned in the other stuka request (the one asking for 20mm cannons in the stuka) that it would be great to help the stuka defend itself in the case of a furball.in which case mirage here tried to mock me because he thought i ment that i take stukas up for the sole purpose of dogfighting alone.


and now it seems like he's still trolling the issue with a thread of his own  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: VonMessa on January 28, 2011, 12:10:36 PM
no, because i mentioned in the other stuka request (the one asking for 20mm cannons in the stuka) that it would be great to help the stuka defend itself in the case of a furball.in which case mirage here tried to mock me because he thought i ment that i take stukas up for the sole purpose of dogfighting alone.


and now it seems like he's still trolling the issue with a thread of his own  :rolleyes:

Sorry it took me so long to translate that in into Engrishhh.

Doesn't seem like a troll to me at all.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
Sorry it took me so long to translate that in into Engrishhh.

Doesn't seem like a troll to me at all.
he said on another thread that dogfighting in a stuka was a stupid thing to do and for noob pilots,

and now he's asking for the "no bomb" option so he can go dogfight in a stuka?

he's ether trolling, or being a hypocrite....or both.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: VonMessa on January 28, 2011, 12:16:03 PM
That one was easier due to punctuation and grammar.

References, please?  (other than saying "that other post")
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Pigslilspaz on January 28, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae359/SteelersFreak1/umad.jpg)
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: VonMessa on January 28, 2011, 12:19:46 PM
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae359/SteelersFreak1/umad.jpg)


 :neener:
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Dr_Death8 on January 28, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
he said on another thread that dogfighting in a stuka was a stupid thing to do and for noob pilots,

and now he's asking for the "no bomb" option so he can go dogfight in a stuka?

he's ether trolling, or being a hypocrite....or both.
Actually his is a legite wish, Ty. To add the 20mm gun platform, HTC would need to release the JU87 D4. The D4 were produced from D3, but there is the addition of a flame arrestor, 2-20mm MG 151/20 and the rear gunner's ammo was increased to 2,000 rnds.
 :salute
Reference:
Griehl, M., (2001), Junkers Ju 87 Stuka, p.38, Airlife Publishing Ltd.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 12:26:57 PM
That one was easier due to punctuation and grammar.

References, please?  (other than saying "that other post")
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,304937.0.html
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 12:28:58 PM
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae359/SteelersFreak1/umad.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/yousad.jpg)
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 12:34:48 PM
Actually his is a legite wish, Ty. To add the 20mm gun platform, HTC would need to release the JU87 D4. The D4 were produced from D3, but there is the addition of a flame arrestor, 2-20mm MG 151/20 and the rear gunner's ammo was increased to 2,000 rnds.
 :salute
Reference:
Griehl, M., (2001), Junkers Ju 87 Stuka, p.38, Airlife Publishing Ltd.

The OTHER guy's wish (for 20mm's) is legit.

this thread? no.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: VonMessa on January 28, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
he said on another thread that dogfighting in a stuka was a stupid thing to do and for noob pilots,

and now he's asking for the "no bomb" option so he can go dogfight in a stuka?

he's ether trolling, or being a hypocrite....or both.

Where?

Here?
turning radius doesnt mean its a nice dogfighter, example, IMVHO the 190A-5 is a great dogfighter (although my lack of succes in it is due to my lack of skill) and it turns like a dumptruck, but it can climb good, and also pull a quick reversal, all the stuka can really do is flat turn

Or Here ?  (since they are the only posts in the thread made by him)

No doubt that a new stuka would draw a following of pilots, I like to fly it and try and sucker people into turning, the Ju-88 is fun to fight with aswell, I have only shot down two people in it but they were fun fights

and P.S, I would refer to the Ju 88 as a "shallow deccent bomber" as opposed to a dive bomber, as it was detrmined that the airframe could not take the stress, so it was recomended that they didnt exceed a 45 degree deccent  :)
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Dr_Death8 on January 28, 2011, 12:42:57 PM
The OTHER guy's wish (for 20mm's) is legit.

this thread? no.
The OTHER guy's wish would need to be for the addition of the D4 version, not adding 2 MG 151/20 to the D3 model. Face it... :ahand  :salute
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 28, 2011, 12:46:57 PM
The OTHER guy's wish would need to be for the addition of the D4 version, not adding 2 MG 151/20 to the D3 model. Face it... :ahand  :salute
.... i really dont know where your argument is coming from  :headscratch:

no one here is debating the adddition of the D model.

i simply said mirage was trolling by asking for the no-bomb option on the stuka.

from the other forum where someone was asking 20mm cannons on the stuka. (which i like that idea).

so...what are you arguing about?  :headscratch:  :huh
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Karnak on January 28, 2011, 02:41:31 PM
Did Ju87s ever sortie as fighters?  Both the D3A and SBD were used as fighter cover at times due to a lack of A6Ms or F4Fs.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Mirage on January 28, 2011, 03:07:54 PM
.... i really dont know where your argument is coming from  :headscratch:

no one here is debating the adddition of the D model.

i simply said mirage was trolling by asking for the no-bomb option on the stuka.

from the other forum where someone was asking 20mm cannons on the stuka. (which i like that idea).

so...what are you arguing about?  :headscratch:  :huh
lol may I ask why you think I am trolling when I ask for the ability to launch a plane even though the ords are down? I just think it would be fun to fly for a tour
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Bruv119 on January 28, 2011, 05:15:25 PM
didn't rudel once claim he could fight 2 vs 1 in his stuka and defeat the British planes   ;)
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: LTARogue on January 29, 2011, 11:28:33 AM
Doesn't Rudel have 11 kills in his Stuka?

LTARogue
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: RTHolmes on January 30, 2011, 07:48:16 AM
ok I understand now, you cant launch a stuka when ords are down, even if you dont want to take bombs.

thank you vonmessa and fugitive for pointing that out to me, I must have missed that when I read the OP.

fixed ...
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: MarineUS on January 30, 2011, 01:51:01 PM
+11111111111111111111 :aok
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Karnak on January 30, 2011, 03:46:01 PM
As I insinuated in my prior post, if it didn't sortie in an air superiority role during WWII then it shouldn't have the option to sortie without bombs in AH.  Both the SBD and D3A performed CAP missions at times due to inadequate supplies of F4Fs or A6Ms respectively.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Mirage on January 30, 2011, 03:53:26 PM
explane the JU-88A-4's ability to not carry bombs? no JU-88A-4 was used for air superiority
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 04:12:43 PM
i'll pretend your not trolling and take your question serious for a second.


why not just simply jettison your bombs before takeoff? easy to do.  :rolleyes:
i take it your the one trolling and you didnt even read his post. ords are down, u wanna get a stuka to the furball. cant really jettison your ords when ords are down now can you?
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 04:17:43 PM
i take it your the one trolling and you didnt even read his post. ords are down, u wanna get a stuka to the furball. cant really jettison your ords when ords are down now can you?
your late to the party.
this has allready been delt with,dont bring it up in an attempt to take shots at me.
because if we're taking shots at eachother, i'll just post the pics of me owning you in that 1v1 we had.
so,be a good boy and run along.
savvy? :ahand
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
your late to the party.
this has allready been delt with,dont bring it up in an attempt to take shots at me.
because if we're taking shots at eachother, i'll just post the pics of you owning me in that 1v1 we had.
so,be a good boy and run along.
savvy? :ahand
trolling again? you must like it

Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
trolling again? you must like it


oh well, i gave you fair warning.

here's you getting owned at your own HO attempt.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-40.png)

and heres the confirmation kill.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-41.png)
 :ahand

now shoo.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 05:26:09 PM
oh well, i gave you fair warning.

here's you getting owned at your own HO attempt.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-40.png)

and heres the confirmation kill.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-41.png)
 :ahand

now shoo.

notice how your guns are all light up but mine arent? also, what does a 1v1 show in a wishlist thread? quit trolling me

also let me emphasize this QUIT TROLLING ME
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
notice how your guns are all light up but mine arent? also, what does a 1v1 show in a wishlist thread? quit trolling me

also let me emphasize this QUIT TROLLING ME
notice those bullet entrails extending from your wings? thats when you were sshooting for the HO, you stoped shooting when i ducked the HO, then pulled up to give you a taste of your own medicine.
so here you go  :ahand

me:  :rofl
you:  :cry  :furious  :(
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 05:47:36 PM
stop trolling me u tard...jeez why the hell dont we have a squelch on the BBS?
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 06:26:44 PM
:cry
:D
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 06:29:05 PM
IM SUCH A TROLL!!!!!

quit trolling me

you must have some pre-arranged schedule to troll me...get out of here kid.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 06:32:35 PM
quit trolling me

you must have some pre-arranged schedule to troll me...get out of here kid.

skorpion:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Trolled.jpg)

me:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Obama_umad.jpg)
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
skorpion:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Trolled.jpg)

me:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Obama_umad.jpg)
ugh. im done with you troll.


hey HTC can we have a troll icon next to tyrannis's name? it would make it alot easier
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 06:36:19 PM
ugh. im done with you troll.


hey HTC can we have a troll icon next to tyrannis's name? it would make it alot easier
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Indifferent.jpg)
 :D your just to easy to hook.  :ahand  :rofl
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Indifferent.jpg)
 :D your just to easy to hook.  :ahand  :rofl

is that you in that pic? damn you gotta stop doing that to yourself
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 06:40:26 PM
is that you in that pic? damn you gotta stop doing that to yourself
gonna try to change the subject to save your self? nope. not gonna work.  :D

did you dry your tears yet? you know you can allways just ignore what i say if i make you:  :cry so much.
 :rofl
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
gonna try to change the subject to save your self? nope. not gonna work.  :D

did you dry your tears yet? you know you can allways just ignore what i say if i make you:  :cry so much.
 :rofl

dayum troll! you must be on a trollin' spree.

anyone else here agree that this tyrannis tard wont stop trolling me. i think a 25 year old man is trolling this 14 year old kid over a JU-87. he needs a life
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Mirage on January 30, 2011, 06:49:37 PM
how about you two pack up your purses and go throw tampons at each other in somone elses thread, but thanks, my thread now has an entire page of a retard fight in it, it should draw more of a crowd now
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 07:01:17 PM
:cry my thread got hijacked, go away.
:rofl
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Thou_mad.jpg)
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Mirage on January 30, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
lol so you admit to hijacking my thread? lol where is skuzzy when you need him?
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
See Rule #5
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
See Rule #5
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 07:20:02 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 07:26:31 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
See Rules #2, #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 07:31:44 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 07:36:48 PM
im still trolling a 14 year old when im 18
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: AWwrgwy on January 30, 2011, 08:00:38 PM
(http://www.greatlakesoffshore.com/greatlakesoffshore/images/smilies/nothing%20to%20add.gif)

but

IN

You're both a couple of avacados.


wrongway
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 08:01:33 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 08:36:42 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 08:43:07 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: skorpion on January 30, 2011, 10:03:21 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Avanti on January 30, 2011, 10:07:20 PM
Also can we have this for the B-17's they also had some escort models which didn't take ords but were 'decoys' or loaded with ammo for enemy aircraft

Avanti
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Banshee7 on January 30, 2011, 10:12:41 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Tyrannis on January 30, 2011, 10:22:57 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: phatzo on January 30, 2011, 11:24:50 PM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Avanti on January 31, 2011, 02:23:08 AM
 :noid
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Banshee7 on January 31, 2011, 04:18:14 PM
Now, what exactly was being said again.  All I can read is "See Rule #." 

I don't see anything wrong with the wish, and I would still like to know why some bombers have the option to not carry ord, as well.

#S#



Banshee7
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 31, 2011, 05:08:14 PM
Now, what exactly was being said again.  All I can read is "See Rule #."  

I don't see anything wrong with the wish, and I would still like to know why some bombers have the option to not carry ord, as well.

#S#



Banshee7

I'd assume Hitech didn't do this as, historically, the Stuka was designed to be a dive-bomber, not a dive-bomb-and-then-fighter.
Other than that, It's a good wish! I'd like to have the option to not carry ords on *all* aircraft, with exception of course the
heavy bomber aircraft IE: B17, B-29, etc.

Ah Tyrannis. You may want to leave your teenage angst behind when you post in these boards.
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: Mirage on January 31, 2011, 05:33:46 PM
thanks for the positive input guys, and on a side note, did my thread just beat any sort of record for the most "see rule #.."'s?  :D
Title: Re: very easy Ju-87 wish
Post by: macleod01 on January 31, 2011, 07:58:30 PM
thanks for the positive input guys, and on a side note, did my thread just beat any sort of record for the most "see rule #.."'s?  :D

Positive input? The only positive input I can see here is that skuzzy got a weeks worth workout with his Rulestick!

 :P