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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LTARogue on January 30, 2011, 11:57:22 AM
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Back in the Day when Chivalry was king :aok Its not always about your score. ;)
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LTARogue
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If I were an RAF fighter pilot during WW2... I would allow the bomber to touch down in England, I wouldn't of allowed it free passage back across the channel though.
In Aces High... If I come across a target which is limping back home, I will leave it be. Unless I was the one who made it start limping ofc, then the bast@rd dies!
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If I were an RAF fighter pilot during WW2... I would allow the bomber to touch down in England, I wouldn't of allowed it free passage back across the channel though.
In Aces High... If I come across a target which is limping back home, I will leave it be. Unless I was the one who made it start limping ofc, then the bast@rd dies!
+1 (Oh, except for the AH part. No enemy plane makes it home alive if I can help it. :t)
I think it would be ironic if that bomber had just come from egging his home town killing his wife and children.
If I was over my territory, and colud force them to land and be captured alive, then I would try that only if it in no way possible would put me at risk. Not out of Chivalry, but because live prisoners might have intelligence value from iterrogation.
Chivalry, and other schoolboy, have no place in war. Kill every single one. Relentlessly. Every. Single. One. Until they are gone, or surrender unconditionally.
:salute,
Wab
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Back in the Day when Chivalry was king :aok Its not always about your score. ;)
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LTARogue
That story is touching.
The biggest difference is that bomber in the story was at alt and not 50 ft off the ground in an NOE mishunz with 50 of his closest twits, In AH nothing says chivalry more than trying your best to avoid combat and winz da warz by all means necessary.... :rolleyes:
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but DADS.....we must vin zee var.....at all costs.......
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but DADS.....we must vin zee var.....at all costs.......
Fuhrer HItech would give you the flying monkey cross for being das goot german... :D
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I remember reading this story. It's just amazing. :aok
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haha that was awesome :-)
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This story actually reminded me of a return trip from a bombing mission (was all alone and not part of a horde btw) and had survived multiple passes from a lone FW 190. I had sustained heavy damage and was trying to land a few kills but I was still fairly deep in enemy airspace so it was not looking real good for me, however, the darndest thhing happened. That FW190 nudged up to my wing and escorted me back to safe territory, even calling off a few red guys looking for an easy kill. A big <<S>> :salute to that player, Wolfala to be exact, for his act of chivalry tho it be a cartoon game. :) Hopefully he doesn't get in trouble with Shawk for letting an LTAR live :confused: Anyway I thought that was cool and am sure anybody else here would have appreciated it.
LTARogue
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The biggest difference is that bomber in the story was at alt and not 50 ft off the ground in an NOE mishunz with 50 of his closest twits,
yes, because dadsguns never hordes. /sarcasm
you, of all people. :rofl :rofl :rofl
it was a relief not hearing your whines at 200.
now do the same for the bbs and it will be perfect.
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I could have lived without the guys additional commentary at the end of the story. War was just as bloody and unfair then. Were there acts like that story that took place? Sure. But for every one of those that tells us how stupid war is, when that fighter pilot had time to assess the act he was potentially going to commit, there were a hundred where some horrific act took place instead.
Sadly the horror that is war. Thankfully in our little cartoon world, we don't have to decide to really take another person's life. I can't begin to imagine how hard that would be.
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so very true Guppy......so true.....when I fly like an FSO thats when I get a chill up my spine thinking of all the men on both sides that gave their life....
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Personally when a guy is out of the fight and no longer a threat I'll let him go. But that's me.
If I'm about to land a shot up bird, my wheels are down, and I'm on approach and I get shot down I think 'jerk' but, again, that's me.
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yes, because dadsguns never hordes. /sarcasm
you, of all people. :rofl :rofl :rofl
it was a relief not hearing your whines at 200.
now do the same for the bbs and it will be perfect.
Are you Grieving? :lol
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I'm sure many of us have read about this story before, and it is a good one. However, what Kazaa said struck me. What if the situation were reversed? What if some Spitfire or Hurricane pilot had allowed a severely damaged He-111 to lumber back to France after bombing an English city? Stigler seems to have received a lot of praise for his action. What would we think of an RAF pilot who did the same?
I can't honestly say I would reach the same conclusion in each case (whether it's praise or condemnation), but I feel like I ought to.
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I'm sure many of us have read about this story before, and it is a good one. However, what Kazaa said struck me. What if the situation were reversed? What if some Spitfire or Hurricane pilot had allowed a severely damaged He-111 to lumber back to France after bombing an English city? Stigler seems to have received a lot of praise for his action. What would we think of an RAF pilot who did the same?
I can't honestly say I would reach the same conclusion in each case (whether it's praise or condemnation), but I feel like I ought to.
Spit pilots who ran out of 303s trying to bring down Stukas and the like were known to salute the German pilots and veer off back home. The German I read about viewed it as an act of Chivalry that would never happen on the Eastern Front.
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I'm sure many of us have read about this story before, and it is a good one. However, what Kazaa said struck me. What if the situation were reversed? What if some Spitfire or Hurricane pilot had allowed a severely damaged He-111 to lumber back to France after bombing an English city? Stigler seems to have received a lot of praise for his action. What would we think of an RAF pilot who did the same?
I can't honestly say I would reach the same conclusion in each case (whether it's praise or condemnation), but I feel like I ought to.
My impression is Stigler didn't comment on the event during the war. I'm sure he would have recieved criticism for allowing a crew to survive that could come back and bomb Germany the next day,
The situation was unique in that Stigler had time to think about it. He wasn't getting shot at. The 17 was barely in the air with obvious damage. Who knows what both Stigler and the bomber crew had experienced prior to their encounter that day. It could be in that moment there was a mutual recogniton that there had been enough death and destruction that day and at that point all that mattered was surviving for both the 109 pilot and the B17 crew, We're not talking criminals here or sociopaths. These are average men being asked to do things that no one should have to do.
It's their own christmas truce such as was done in WW1. This is silly, we're more alike then different, why are we killing each other. Of course the powers that be have a greater interest in continuing the conflict and discourage this kind of rational thinking.
not something to be promoted by those who believe in war of course
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It's their own christmas truce such as was done in WW1. This is silly, we're more alike then different, why are we killing each other. Of course the powers that be have a greater interest in continuing the conflict and discourage this kind of rational thinking.
not something to be promoted by those who believe in war of course
This is true. I'm sure there were many more stories like this during the war that did not get documented. Watching people die, friend or foe does impose a severe phsycological effect on the mind of what the human race has come to for all this to happen. What I think is that its sad that any government would never leak these stories out in fear that their country would often sympathize with the enemy and second guess the reason for war in the first place. Stories like this must of gave alot of guys like Brown hope that the human race hasn't gone to sh**.
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Back in the Day when Chivalry was king :aok Its not always about your score. ;)
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LTARogue
read this, its the original posting from snopes, that was quoted in the posting. hate it when people embellish a good story and make it almost a lie.
http://www.snopes.com/military/charliebrown.asp
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