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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: ZetaNine on February 03, 2011, 11:09:28 AM
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if memory serves...the produced green smoke. for 3 to 4 minutes.
these would be a blast to drop on top of gv positions. (or pt boats. cv groups)
(http://rallypointmilitaria.com/wp-content/gallery/wwii-star-flare/wwii_starflare1.jpg) (http://rallypointmilitaria.com/wp-content/gallery/wwii-star-flare/wwii_starflare3.jpg)
This is an original July 1944 dated parachute flare with canister. The flare is marked, “Signal, Ground, Green Star, Parachute, M19A1, LOT UNX 1-11, JUL 1944
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That big red icon isn't good enough for ya?
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That big red icon isn't good enough for ya?
nope...and not very realistic either
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That big red icon isn't good enough for ya?
Gv's don't see enemy gb icons, so would add To tactical gameplay
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So, you want to be able to carpet-bomb that jeep in your formation of Lancs from 1000'+ feet...
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So, you want to be able to carpet-bomb that jeep in your formation of Lancs from 1000'+ feet...
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been here 6 years...never upped a bomber. I prefer a Yac
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So, you want to be able to carpet-bomb that jeep in your formation of Lancs from 1000'+ feet...
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WOW, your ability to totally ignore the actual value of such a tactic and substitute your biased opinion is amazing.
The smoke is to help identify GVs to other GVs, from planes. We have it in tanks already, but all of you know who use the smoke, that you can not exactly place the smoke where you want it. Even further when GV's are attacking a base it is nice to mark hard to find GV's for your countrymen.
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WOW, your ability to totally ignore the actual value of such a tactic and substitute your biased opinion is amazing.
The smoke is to help identify GVs to other GVs, from planes. We have it in tanks already, but all of you know who use the smoke, that you can not exactly place the smoke where you want it. Even further when GV's are attacking a base it is nice to mark hard to find GV's for your countrymen.
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come to think of it...each county may want their own color of smoke
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(http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//post-299-1174325816.jpg)
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one of my favorite things to do is mark tanks in my Hurri1 hurl a couple a these out the window would be great since I dont use tracers.
+5 :D
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umm thats wats fighter strafing is for marking gvs
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umm thats wats fighter strafing is for marking gvs
What if your countrymen are tied up defend an air cap? The only amount of time they can commit to marking a GV for you is maybe one pass, after that...your on your own.
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Bring a flare to mark a gv or a bomb. Hard choice.
Semp
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Bring a flare to mark a gv or a bomb. Hard choice.
Semp
Assuming your bombs hit 100% of the time...
Flip
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They will do more damage than smoke.
Semp
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Now all you have to do is get the grunts to shoot it at the GVs because that's a rifle grenade.
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M19A-1 ?
(http://www.goldenseason.com.sg/product_pic/d_abox_m19a1.jpg)
Oh, Oh..... M19A1!!!
(http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/3153161856/7793301/2cfca9b99005cf20690f43fc0f1cacc7.jpg)
Yeah that's a rifle launched phosphorus smoke grenade.
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if memory serves...the produced green smoke. for 3 to 4 minutes.
these would be a blast to drop on top of gv positions. (or pt boats. cv groups)
(http://rallypointmilitaria.com/wp-content/gallery/wwii-star-flare/wwii_starflare1.jpg) (http://rallypointmilitaria.com/wp-content/gallery/wwii-star-flare/wwii_starflare3.jpg)
This is an original July 1944 dated parachute flare with canister. The flare is marked, “Signal, Ground, Green Star, Parachute, M19A1, LOT UNX 1-11, JUL 1944
-100 unless you get rid of GV icons!
+1000000 if you eliminate GV icons :)
JUGgler
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-100 unless you get rid of GV icons!
+1000000 if you eliminate GV icons :)
JUGgler
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bad idea. you already have air cons that can see our icons. All it will do is ruin GV fights. id bet if this was added, 7/10 times the tank who gets marked wont be killed by another tank. If there are cons overhead that are able to mark gv's, id bet money on it that there are also cons overhead with bombs!
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Think the fact that is a rifle grenade pretty muchkilled the thread.
Semp
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No icons from planes? You already have to get within range to see them, and for the people whose eyes aren't so great.....yeah gtfo.
And this would be a fun thing to see in game. +1
And no I'm not a bomb tard. If up a plane to kill GV's (which is when we are getting our butts handed to us and we're about to lose the base), I up a JU-87.
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marine it's a rifle grenade. it can only be fired from rifles, which of course we dont have.
semp
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marine it's a rifle grenade. it can only be fired from rifles, which of course we dont have.
semp
he left out half the lot #...which makes them the air dropped variant (I would guess)...per the article I should have quoted.
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I'm not talking about the ones listed. I know that flares can be and were dropped from planes.
So I'm still behind the idea. :aok
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if memory serves...the produced green smoke. for 3 to 4 minutes.
these would be a blast to drop on top of gv positions. (or pt boats. cv groups)
(http://rallypointmilitaria.com/wp-content/gallery/wwii-star-flare/wwii_starflare1.jpg) (http://rallypointmilitaria.com/wp-content/gallery/wwii-star-flare/wwii_starflare3.jpg)
This is an original July 1944 dated parachute flare with canister. The flare is marked, “Signal, Ground, Green Star, Parachute, M19A1, LOT UNX 1-11, JUL 1944
its a cool idea, but whats stopping the gv's from changing location when they see the smoke? say you have a formation of lancs incoming to carpet bomb an area the enemy team is camping. you throw out this smoke.enemy gv's see this smoke and change postions before the formation arrives. but the bomber pilot doesnt know this, so he wastes his payload carpet bombing an empty area. or, what if you have a tank thats the only one able to protect the maproom, he gets bored. someone pops smoke and the first thing he does is go rolling off in that direction. exposing the maproom. its both a good and bad idea.
i think it would be better used in an artillery,shelling role. pop smoke to help the gunners judge distance better.
and if your going to use them to mark gv's then use them to mark only the most IMPORTANT ones. (like say, a tiger camping on the hill and the m3 waiting behind him, and not the little m8 thats hiding inside a barn way off in nobody cares land)
and also i can see some countries using the smoke in other ways,
like fighters coming in dropping TONS of smoke over an airfield to block out the sky from the base gunners. then have there low level bombers come in and just blind-carpet bomb the place.
or people spawning on the cv deck, popping smoke, then towering. then upping againt to pop more smoke so its harder to target for the bomber pilots.
so it would need to be lightly perked or something to try to discourage mis-use.
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its a cool idea, but whats stopping the gv's from changing location when they see the smoke? say you have a formation of lancs incoming to carpet bomb an area the enemy team is camping. you throw out this smoke.enemy gv's see this smoke and change postions before the formation arrives. but the bomber pilot doesnt know this, so he wastes his payload carpet bombing an empty area. or, what if you have a tank thats the only one able to protect the maproom, he gets bored. someone pops smoke and the first thing he does is go rolling off in that direction. exposing the maproom. its both a good and bad idea.
I actually like it for those very reasons that you mentioned.
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I actually like it for those very reasons that you mentioned.
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Perhaps: remove vehicle icons for everything but dedicated GV killers (B-25H, IL-2), and even them only enable them for 500 yards or less. Also give certain planes the ability to mark with dropped smoke.
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Bring a flare to mark a gv or a bomb. Hard choice.
Semp
Let me put it this way for you
Bring a 5kg flare to mark a GV in a target filled sky and ground?
Or bring a 500lb bomb to a target filled sky and ground?
I would bring the flare, much lighter
I may even get an assist for that