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Title: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 06, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
EVGA 768-P3-1362-AR GeForce GTX 460 ..anyone using it??  thoughts?
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 06, 2011, 10:26:47 PM
or... your opinion on the best $150 and lower card.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: cattb on February 06, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
The 460 2 year warranty is at 150 without rebate(192 bit and 798 ram), otherwise your looking at ATI 5830, 5850, 6850 or a 460 fermi.The superclocked at newegg I think is 179 after rebate with 1gb ram and 256 bit.(this one is lifetime warranty)

I dont own any of them, goodluck.

charts http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html)
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 06, 2011, 11:44:05 PM
sooooo  the AR being lifetime warranty and the TR a two year warranty is a myth?
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 06, 2011, 11:48:09 PM
Their warranty confuses me,,, 30 day warranty??/  what about the manufact, warranty?
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 07, 2011, 12:05:50 AM
n/m...found it
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 07, 2011, 12:42:00 AM
XFX HD-685X-ZDFC Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity  This has possibilities.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150515
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Spite on February 07, 2011, 07:20:16 AM
I was looking at the 6850's myself recently.  That XFX card looks great and you can't beat their double lifetime warranty.  It is an AMD reference 775MHz clock for the 6850.

MSI has overclocked version (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127566) and you can read a review and compare reference clocks, the MSI shipping clock of 860MHz, and the extra overclocking headroom of up to 1GHz still available here (http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-radeon-6850-cyclone-power-review/1).  The overclocks put this thing into the 6870 and GeForce 470 range of cards.

Essentially the same price.  But hard to beat the XFX warranty and I'm sure it would overclock quite well should you wish to.

Another good thing about the 6850's, as noted in the Tom's Hardware review of the 6950 and 6970 (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950-cayman,2818.html), 2 of these 6850's in Crossfire can match and generally beat any currently shipping top end card for a substantially reduced price.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Flench on February 07, 2011, 08:08:14 AM
I'm in the market for a video card too but not sure about the warranty . If you overclock it don't that take away the warranty ?
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Spite on February 07, 2011, 08:38:18 AM
For some manufacturers, yes.  The MSI card I referenced is already overclocked and without looking into their warranty, as long as you don't go past that you would be fine.

XFX on the other hand has a double lifetime, overclocker friendly, warranty.  One reason I really like XFX.

From their tech support dept:

"Overclocking wont void your warranty, as long as the card isnt physically damaged or modified, and there are no BIOS modifications it will not effect warranty. - Erik"
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: SectorNine50 on February 07, 2011, 11:21:15 AM
XFX for the win!

The 6-series ATi (err, I guess it's under the name AMD now) cards are flipping rad. :x
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: cattb on February 07, 2011, 12:14:34 PM
I have been looking at cards also. I am still stuck between the 6850 and the 460. Both reference cards (stock) will overclock.Both cards are very close together in performance. If anyone does get a 460 or 6850 please post pros or cons of the card here.

Sidenote newegg and amazon have xfx cards with a rebate.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Krusty on February 07, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
Skip the 6000 series. Get a 5850 instead. More power.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: usvi on February 07, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
The MSI GTX 460 I just installed is outstanding so far.It runs at 30c at idle and the highest it ever gets is 58c playing DX11 games at ultra high settings.The fan never tops 50% speed on full load and is so quiet I can't hear it over my case fans(my EGVA 9800gt sounded like a leaf blower).I haven't overclocked more than it is already yet but there is plenty of potential.The MSI afterburner program is MUCH better than EVGA precision.Frame rates are greatly improved compared to my 9800gt.It only has a three year warranty but you will probably upgrade before then anyways. I've had no driver issues or other problems,so all things considered I couldn't be happier with this card.

http://www.directron.com/460gtxcy1gd5oc.html
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Doctahg on February 07, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
EVGA has a lifetime warramty all all cards no matter what..and you can use Afterburner with them..i do...that actuallly voids your warranty! lol
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: cattb on February 07, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
EVGA has a lifetime warramty all all cards no matter what..and you can use Afterburner with them..i do...that actuallly voids your warranty! lol
Some evga cards have 2 year warranty while others have lifetime.AR lifetime TR 2year
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Masherbrum on February 07, 2011, 05:48:15 PM
sooooo  the AR being lifetime warranty and the TR a two year warranty is a myth?
No.  the AR's are Lifetime.  Stick with the AR's Coronado.   You and I haven't seen eye to eye at times, but the AR's are what you want.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Masherbrum on February 07, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
EVGA has a lifetime warramty all all cards no matter what..and you can use Afterburner with them..i do...that actuallly voids your warranty! lol

Wrong.    Absolutely wrong!   

EVGA

AR -Lifetime Warranty
TR - 2 year Warranty

But it seems you're some sort of squeaker who thinks he's trying to be cute with your response.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Doctahg on February 07, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
If you search the Evga forum, you will see that the use of afterburner, impossible to verify as it is, will technically void the lifetime warranty.

Never noticied the Tr letters...I have bought about 15 evga cards over the years and it seems they were all AR's which is lifetime...the TR are 2 years, KR's 3 years..
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Masherbrum on February 07, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
....and I know what the Letters mean and do not use Afterburner.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: guncrasher on February 07, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
evga has its own oc utility along with a stress test.  no need to use afterburner.

btw the lifetime warranty only applies if you register your card withing 30 days.  then again, when it comes to lifetime warranty, most card will last you longer than you will need them.  i have a 9800gtx+ with life time warranty ended up giving it away, couldnt wait for it to get damaged to upgrade to a evga 465 again with a lifetime warranty.

lifetime is nice to have, but doesnt mean you will every use it.  then again, who knows, the extra 20 bucks you pay for the lifetime might be worth more than the 50 or 60 bucks you pay at best buy on top of it.

semp
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 07, 2011, 10:30:36 PM
Annnddddd,,,,the winner is........................... ..
EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card(http://)
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Flench on February 08, 2011, 06:42:35 AM
You buying off of newegg ?
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Doctahg on February 08, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
Only recently did Precision allow you to unlock the voltage without using their other program.  Afterburner has always allowed you to.  Very easy to make a custom fan pro so why switch at this point..
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 08, 2011, 06:48:45 PM
You buying off of newegg ?
Well..i was  , seems my eyes are bigger than my OS  . Windows XP Pro(32 bit?)  with 2 GIG  of ram, talked with a XFX tech today, says  i cant support the GPU i want :eek:   What are my options with cards ??ANYONE wanna research for me??lol
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Spikes on February 08, 2011, 06:59:43 PM
32 bit only recognize up to 3 or 3.5gb of RAM...so if you had 2gig of ram and 1 gig card, it would still work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 08, 2011, 07:06:32 PM
Well..i was  , seems my eyes are bigger than my OS  . Windows XP Pro(32 bit?)  with 2 GIG  of ram, talked with a XFX tech today, says  i cant support the GPU i want :eek:   What are my options with cards ??ANYONE wanna research for me??lol

it might be better to post your Computer specs of all components and the operating system ( which you did WinXP Pro 32 bit )

then let people give suggestions......

Spike, yes kind of.. Windows 32 bit OS will recognize up to 3.25 gb's of memory... but the kicker is all 32 bit programs/software will only be able to utilize a total of 2 gb's TOTAL...... ( unless you use some type of batch file , work-a-round to use more ram, more trouble than it's worth.....but we did it with AutoCad back in 1999 thru 2003 or so )

edit: is the XFX tech just saying that because of limited support of XP or soon to be from MicroSoft????

also, have you thought about possibly upgrading to lets say "Windows 7 64 Bit" ( either Pro or Ult. versions )  ? ( these versions will recognize  up to 92 gb's of Memory +.... I know Ultimate is up in the 160+ gb's  )

hope this helps...
Title: Re: gotta buy vid card,,,TONITE!
Post by: Coronado on February 08, 2011, 07:21:03 PM
it might be better to post your Computer specs of all components and the operating system ( which you did WinXP Pro 32 bit )

then let people give suggestions......

Spike, yes kind of.. Windows 32 bit OS will recognize up to 3.25 gb's of memory... but the kicker is all 32 bit programs/software will only be able to utilize a total of 2 gb's TOTAL...... ( unless you use some type of batch file , work-a-round to use more ram, more trouble than it's worth.....but we did it with AutoCad back in 1999 thru 2003 or so )

edit: is the XFX tech just saying that because of limited support of XP or soon to be from MicroSoft????

also, have you thought about possibly upgrading to lets say "Windows 7 64 Bit" ( either Pro or Ult. versions )  ? ( these versions will recognize  up to 92 gb's of Memory +.... I know Ultimate is up in the 160+ gb's  )

hope this helps...
I ASSume because it's an older OS and everything is geared for newer stuff, utilizing all the new cards potential.
I don't want to buy a $175 card and get the same performance i got from my 8800 GTX.And I'm almost positive it's a 64 bit, not 32. FWIW