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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: W7LPNRICK on February 12, 2011, 01:42:23 AM
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Just watched this again for the first time in years. Came out in 1970. Donald Sutherland, Clint, Telly Savalis, Don Rickles, etc. Anywho, they had some nice shots of a couple Tiger tanks, and four M-4/75s, a few US aircraft flying in formation & then strafing their truck, with US markings, putting them afoot. Not sure what aircraft? Looked a little like Jugs. Fun movie. Anyone notice any interesting vehicles? :salute
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The "Tigers" are mock ups built over Yugoslav T34/85s. The film was shot in Yugoslavia and the Shermans are up gunned Yugo M4s with 76mm guns in the early turret. The planes are a Yak two seat trainer of some sort I believe.
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Best damn theme song of any war movie too.
ack-ack
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Best damn theme song of any war movie too.
ack-ack
Amen. Listening to it as I type this
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Never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.
:bolt:
wrongway
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Best damn theme song of any war movie too.
ack-ack
I have to concur.
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Best damn theme song of any war movie too.
ack-ack
I have that song on my cell phone, loved it since I watched that movie in the Manaport Plaza in Manassas when I was a kid
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The "Tigers" are mock ups built over Yugoslav T34/85s. The film was shot in Yugoslavia and the Shermans are up gunned Yugo M4s with 76mm guns in the early turret. The planes are a Yak two seat trainer of some sort I believe.
Wow, good info. You sound authoritative, so I won't argue. They did a good job on the tigers from the side. They are a very close resemblance.
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They look the same as the Tiger Is from SPR. Must be the same vehicles I would think (look close at the bogies). They are a decent stand in for the real thing.
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They look the same as the Tiger Is from SPR. Must be the same vehicles I would think (look close at the bogies). They are a decent stand in for the real thing.
I believe the Tigers in SPR were mocked up on a British tank but it's possible it was also done on T34/85s. The road wheels are the giveaway in Kelly's Hero's. If you've ever built a model of a T-34 you'd spot it right away.
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I grew up loving that movie. Telly Savalas was great. Don Rickles was great. Lotsa funny lines.
I watch it now, especially the cowboy style showdown at the end, and it seems like something Quentin Tarentino would've liked.
In fact, QT used the part of the soundtrack from Kelly's Heroes in Inglourious Bastards.
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I believe the Tigers in SPR were mocked up on a British tank but it's possible it was also done on T34/85s. The road wheels are the giveaway in Kelly's Hero's. If you've ever built a model of a T-34 you'd spot it right away.
You're right Dan, T-34 85s. The front looks a little snub compared to the real deal...but very close.
Murdr and I saw a Tiger/34 at the Reading airshow a few years back.
T-34/85
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Char_T-34.jpg/800px-Char_T-34.jpg)
Tiger/34 :D
(http://k41.pbase.com/g6/90/599190/2/80085426.2ohmQL9w.jpg)
Vimoutiers Tiger
(http://www.normandybattlefields.com/mapphotos/25-tiger_tank.jpg)
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Pinko 85's were NOT in the movie (made in 1970)
Just an FYI.
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Pinko 85's were NOT in the movie (made in 1970)
Just an FYI.
What are you referring to Logan? The Kelly's Hero's Tigers were built on Yugoslav T34/85s.
Check the road wheels
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/i031790.jpg)
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Best damn theme song of any war movie too.
ack-ack
the theme song for Patton was pretty good too.
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Up yours baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqSiLL8U3vo&feature=related
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:aok
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"Have a little faith baby, have a little faith"
I was there in fianl scenes of the bank. Exit stage right. :bolt:
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http://www.pbase.com/mnoble/image/80519164
The SPR Tiger is a T-34 chassis. It might not be the actual Kelly Heroes vehicle though, I thought maybe at the end of the film they stored them somewhere but maybe not <shrug>.
...and yes, the Kellys Heroes Tiger I was absolutely a T-34 conversion. They filmed the movie in Yugosalvia (when they used Russian AFVs) and they would have had easy access to old T-34s.
http://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3271&start=20
Look closely at the bogies and track.
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The Tiger in SPR was based on a T-55. Notice the spacing between the 1st and 2cd road wheels. On the T-34 this spacing was between the 2cd and 3rd road wheels.
(http://i.pbase.com/o4/74/637374/1/63945628.rjQyjULE.DSC_9063.jpg)
(http://i.pbase.com/o4/74/637374/1/63975394.XXRudfrg.DSC_8893.jpg)
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Well, on the examples I showed the spacing on both AFVs is between the 2nd and 3rd bogie from the front ala the T-34.
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"What's with all the negative waves, Baby?" :D
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If I'm not mistaken I believe there's a wirblewind in the movie.
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never saw that..... would be nice. :D
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If I'm not mistaken I believe there's a wirblewind in the movie.
Quad 20mm behind sandbags durring the "tunnel attack".
Not a wirble.
wrongway
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Quad 20mm behind sandbags durring the "tunnel attack".
Not a wirble.
wrongway
How would you know, you never seen the movie...
Wait a minute, that might explain why it takes so many hits to kill some of those GVs.. Darn paint! :neener: :salute
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I grew up loving that movie. Telly Savalas was great. Don Rickles was great. Lotsa funny lines.
I watch it now, especially the cowboy style showdown at the end, and it seems like something Quentin Tarentino would've liked.
In fact, QT used the part of the soundtrack from Kelly's Heroes in Inglourious Bastards.
Yep, that little bit of the soundtrack is actually called "Tiger Tank". Lalo Schifrin is one seriously talented guy. And he's been cranking out memorable music for what seems like forever. :aok
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one of the tigers from SPR is mocked on T-34 chassis, a guy i know mine owns one.
You open the "tigers" hatches which are all fabbed Alluminum and underneath the is the slopped armor from a T-34. lol :x
For anyone in the Chicagoland/midwest area it sometimes appears at local WW2 reenactments, if ya want to check it out in person.
Kelly's Heros is one of my favorite movies, it's nice seeing all the real armor and stuff.
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Just watched Patton and Kelly's Heroes the other day.
Patton's story is pretty cool, using him as a diversion was pretty clever.
Anyone got any recommendations? I'm sick and laying low, so I've been watching a lot of movies! :)
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Anyone got any recommendations? I'm sick and laying low, so I've been watching a lot of movies! :)
"A Bridge Too Far" is one of my favorites.
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Anyone got any recommendations? I'm sick and laying low, so I've been watching a lot of movies! :)
If you have NetFlix try "Theirs Is the Glory", "Aces High" , "American Experience: Robert E. Lee", "Gallipoli", "National Geographic: The Battle for Midway" and not a war movie but one of my favorites "Harvey".
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Yep, always liked the song. Burning Bridges The Mike Curb Congregation
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Hey AWwrgwy, how did you copy the little avatar clip "That's Paint!" Would like to use it for avatar for WoT Forums. :aok
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Hey AWwrgwy, how did you copy the little avatar clip "That's Paint!" Would like to use it for avatar for WoT Forums. :aok
I made it.
:devil
Use it. But host it yourself.
wrongway
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Just watched Patton and Kelly's Heroes the other day.
Patton's story is pretty cool, using him as a diversion was pretty clever.
Anyone got any recommendations? I'm sick and laying low, so I've been watching a lot of movies! :)
The Bridge on the River Kwai
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"Dark Blue World", a Czech movie, made in 2001. :aok
Just watched Patton and Kelly's Heroes the other day.
Patton's story is pretty cool, using him as a diversion was pretty clever.
Anyone got any recommendations? I'm sick and laying low, so I've been watching a lot of movies! :)
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Check out the movie "Twelve O'clock High" with Gregory Peck. It was made in 1949 and it's about a B-17 bomber unit suffering from low morale. It's Gregory Pecks's job to whip them into shape. Many B-17's in the movie as well as 109's and 190's. They use a lot of actual combat footage in the movie. I watched it in high definition and Gregory peck's nose hair looked like BX cables.
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Check out the movie "Twelve O'clock High" with Gregory Peck. It was made in 1949 and it's about a B-17 bomber unit suffering from low morale. It's Gregory Pecks's job to whip them into shape. Many B-17's in the movie as well as 109's and 190's. They use a lot of actual combat footage in the movie. I watched it in high definition and Gregory peck's nose hair looked like BX cables.
Watching it right now on Neflix Roku. :old:
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Check out the movie "Twelve O'clock High" with Gregory Peck.
While I'm neutral about the film, I've read the book once a year since...um...junior high school. Forty-five years or so. Sy Bartlett and Beirne Lay, the authors, knew what they were talking about, they were there. The 918th BG is a composite of the real-world 306th (divide 918 by 3) and 100th BGs. Savage is a combination of Frank Armstrong and Fred Castle. With the exception of the romance (and who knows about that?), every incident in the book actually occurred - not always to the same people or at the same times.
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While I'm neutral about the film, I've read the book once a year since...um...junior high school. Forty-five years or so. Sy Bartlett and Beirne Lay, the authors, knew what they were talking about, they were there. The 918th BG is a composite of the real-world 306th (divide 918 by 3) and 100th BGs. Savage is a combination of Frank Armstrong and Fred Castle. With the exception of the romance (and who knows about that?), every incident in the book actually occurred - not always to the same people or at the same times.
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Would you agree that the film in some ways totally changed the story from the book, in regards to Savage and other characters? Having read the book many times I have a hard time enjoying the movie for that reason.
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Would you agree that the film in some ways totally changed the story from the book, in regards to Savage and other characters? Having read the book many times I have a hard time enjoying the movie for that reason.
Yikes! I think I've only seen the film twice, and one of those times was very long ago. My recollection is that you're right, that Davenport's role in particular is significantly changed. I remember thinking at the time that the story was quite a bit different but may have been deliberately altered by Lay (who I think wrote the screenplay) to come across better on film, where you can't typically experience the characters' thoughts.
- oldman
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Netflix "restrepo" decent flick.
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Netflix "restrepo" decent flick.
We're looking for it now. Do you know if it's Blue or red (Watch instantly or mail)? :old:
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I believe the Tigers in SPR were mocked up on a British tank but it's possible it was also done on T34/85s. The road wheels are the giveaway in Kelly's Hero's. If you've ever built a model of a T-34 you'd spot it right away.
Like the 'Sherman vs. Tiger' episode of 'Greatest Military Clashes' (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v6257855nfjgxgFS) -- I remember seeing a commercial for it and realizing what a military history geek I was for recognizing which tank they'd mocked-up into a Tiger (look at 6:05 in the video, where you get the first good look at the suspension; as in Kelly's Heroes, the road wheels give it away).
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Netflix "restrepo" decent flick.
I walked into the living room when my parents were about halfway
through it.
I stood there, watched a minute of it.. sat down and watched the rest.
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"Gettysburg" and "Gods and Generals" :aok
you sit through both of these amazing movies and i'll give you 500 cookies :D
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We're looking for it now. Do you know if it's Blue or red (Watch instantly or mail)? :old:
Both for Netflix.
ack-ack
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i thought
"The longest day"
was pretty good.watched it with my grandfather. he's a huge john wayne fan.
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I've always loved "A Midnight Clear," book and movie. Not a blow 'em up type movie but good none the less.
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I've always loved "A Midnight Clear," book and movie. Not a blow 'em up type movie but good none the less.
that was a good movie.
Another classic is "A walk in the Sun", one of the first war movies (it was made when the war in it's finishing stages) that explored the psychological impact and horrors of war.
ack-ack
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We're looking for it now. Do you know if it's Blue or red (Watch instantly or mail)? :old:
Found it...didn't like it much. Mostly swearing and low budget "feeling". "Not my Bag Baby" :x