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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bbosen on February 18, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
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I'm having a BLAST using Aces High to teach my grandsons, and a group of local Boy Scouts, about World War II aviation history. Check out this YouTube clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZPRsvkRaBs
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:aok
I'm having a blast learning more and more as time goes by.
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:aok
I'm having a blast learning more and more as time goes by.
agreed! :D
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I'm still having trouble getting the image out of my head of little Johnny learning about history by logging into the Late War arenas.
Mom: What did you learn today, Johnny?
Johnny: Well, Mom, we were reenacting the great vulch fest between A78 and C183, where the General made sure nobody upped from the CV so we could get close, then proceeded to swarm the base before anybody could get off the ground. Once we got the ack down, we got a bunch of kills because guys kept reupping trying to get at the CV. It must've been tough back then, with all the friendly planes getting in the way when you're trying to kill an enemy plane on the runway. Then, just like in the war, some bomb**** came in from the next base over and divebombed the CV in Lancs and sank it, and we had no choice but to head home.
Mom: O....kay...
Johnny: Yeah, then some lametard in an LA7 started running me down, since I couldn't outrun him I turned around and HOed his ass. He PMed me and started yelling about me being a HOtard and called me a bunch of names, here's a screenshot. It's a good thing all the people in the war spoke English so they could understand each other.
Mom: ... ...*reading*... (what the heck is a 'ham doctor'?)
Johnny: So because I'd turned back and the rest of the horde had continued to run, I wound up getting gangbanged by 7 of his buddies and got shot down. I do have a question though, which country was America allied with during the war? Bishop, Knight, or Rook?
Mom: ...
Mom: Go outside, Johnny.
Wiley.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Teacher: Johnny what did you learn about WW2 this weekend?
Johnny: Well I played Aces High and all the guys fighting think the Generals are stupid and the war is a waste of time and they mostly just complain a lot.
Teacher: Very good Johnny. My Grandfather fought in WW2 and he says exactly the same thing.
:neener:
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:lol
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Teacher: Johnny what did you learn about WW2 this weekend?
Johnny: Well I played Aces High and all the guys fighting think the Generals are stupid and the war is a waste of time and they mostly just complain a lot.
Teacher: Very good Johnny. My Grandfather fought in WW2 and he says exactly the same thing.
:neener:
:rofl
Wiley.
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Nicely done Bosen. Creating a mission offline with task force groups, and real time sound editing cues. :salute
I hope that your troop catches the bug. Have them do some research and bring you the setup to do the next one.
Combine the reading and research required to bring history to life, show them how each step is done and pretty soon they will be trying to one up you.
This is the type of outside of the box thinking that unlike standardized testing and cookie cutter curriculums, reaches the imaginations of youth. That is what they will need to launch us all into our rightful place in global leadership.
You sir, are building leaders, not followers. I sincerely salute you and your troop. :salute
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I'm having a BLAST using Aces High to teach my grandsons, and a group of local Boy Scouts, about World War II aviation history.
I have gained a new respect for the pilots of WWII. Getting bullets into another airplane is HARD. And I don't have to deal with flying for hours and the cold at high altitudes, etc.
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methinks Mongoose will become a lifer. Well said. <S>
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Teacher: Johnny what did you learn about WW2 this weekend?
Johnny: Well I played Aces High and all the guys fighting think the Generals are stupid and the war is a waste of time and they mostly just complain a lot.
Teacher: Very good Johnny. My Grandfather fought in WW2 and he says exactly the same thing.
:neener:
ww2 a waste of time? no...mostly necessity
iraq and afghanistan? definately a waste of lives, time and money...
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Did you confuse a joke with a history lesson? Seriously?
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Teacher: Johnny what did you learn about WW2 this weekend?
Johnny: Well I played Aces High and all the guys fighting think the Generals are stupid and the war is a waste of time and they mostly just complain a lot.
Teacher: Very good Johnny. My Grandfather fought in WW2 and he says exactly the same thing.
:neener:
now if johnny would come into the AvA, he'd learn something. :aok
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Did you confuse a joke with a history lesson? Seriously?
FLS,
Did you watch the film? I see no joke here, other than those humorous replies from other posters. I have taught High School Science. I have mentored elementary, middle school and high school males that were at risk. The problems that these youngsters face in life will take more than a 2 dimensional textbook answer. I have seen way too many turned into zombies, regurgitating answers to questions that will most likely be placed on a standardized test. The cruel thing about the test, the results are aimed at evaluating the educators. That is something that school administrators are much more capable of doing rather than a board of "know it alls" forcing their curriculum onto educators.
My best day as an educator was any day that students had fun and were genuinely interested in learning. A kid looking outside at a gray sky hoping to see some snow flakes, suddenly takes an interest in all the symbols and numbers and strains to recognize cloud shapes. Do you think any of those questions were on his standardized test? It is a much greater chance that the questions that he would have to answer would have to do with the ground that he walks over, every day and finds nothing interesting in it at all unless there is a $ dollar bill laying on it.
Back to Bosen. He is stepping up and SHOWING some young folks that they are worth his time. :aok Now if this seriously were a joke, I fail to see any humor in it at all.
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FLS,
Did you watch the film? I see no joke here, other than those humorous replies from other posters. I have taught High School Science. I have mentored elementary, middle school and high school males that were at risk. The problems that these youngsters face in life will take more than a 2 dimensional textbook answer. I have seen way too many turned into zombies, regurgitating answers to questions that will most likely be placed on a standardized test. The cruel thing about the test, the results are aimed at evaluating the educators. That is something that school administrators are much more capable of doing rather than a board of "know it alls" forcing their curriculum onto educators.
My best day as an educator was any day that students had fun and were genuinely interested in learning. A kid looking outside at a gray sky hoping to see some snow flakes, suddenly takes an interest in all the symbols and numbers and strains to recognize cloud shapes. Do you think any of those questions were on his standardized test? It is a much greater chance that the questions that he would have to answer would have to do with the ground that he walks over, every day and finds nothing interesting in it at all unless there is a $ dollar bill laying on it.
Back to Bosen. He is stepping up and SHOWING some young folks that they are worth his time. :aok Now if this seriously were a joke, I fail to see any humor in it at all.
Hey Chilli!
[Blush].... I enjoyed your insights and praise, but I really just did this for myself, because it is FUN! My grandsons really love flying with me, and I do look for a way to interject a little history, and some love for these historic heroes into our exercises. But my real motivation was just for that fun. I wasn't thinking as deeply about education as you obviously do. Our society owes a debt to those teachers that are really dedicated to their craft and their students. It sounds like you are among them. :aok
As for the offline mission; it isn't quite complete yet. It's very, Very, VERY difficult to get the timing perfect. I've had to make a lot of compromises. I don't have access to a real-world map showing the area around Scarpantos, so I "faked" that part, using the well-known "ndisles" terrain. I also can't figure out a way to have the task force pre-damaged and smoking, which would be more inline with the actual arrival of Red and White flights from that October 1943 afternoon. In my version the Stukas arrive to an undamaged task force going the wrong direction. I have to live with that due to some technical limitations of the simulator, the offline mission editor, and the terrain. But the American P38s do arrive at the correct time, and if the mission's operator doesn't engage them, they do drop their bombs directly on the task force and do a lot of damage to the carrier. It took a great many iterations through the offline mission editor to get that correct. In the actual engagement, "White" flight shot down a lone Ju88 that entered the fray. I've got that part working, but the Ju88 doesn't fully engage the P38s of Red flight as it did back in 1943. Instead, it continues to tangle with White flight until it gets shot down. I'm hoping to "tweak" that part a little better. Overall, the general situation does mimic the actual battle quite well, and the audio dialog tells the story with an acceptable level of creative license.....
I hope to get it finished and published soon. When I do, I'll probably put a notice on the "Offline Missions" forum (where there's a more comprehensive preview, referencing the similar mission I published for Air Warrior 10 years ago).
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FLS,
Did you watch the film? I see no joke here, other than those humorous replies from other posters.
You have misread FLS completely. He never said the film was a joke. He said HIS own comment was a joke.
Look at the context ;)
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bbosen....something else you might try for the kids.......
i've had a vietnam marine phantom pilot in to our squadron at cap to talk to the kids.....had a bombadier from a b-17 too.
the b-17 guy not only showed up in his original dress uniform, but he brought a piece of shrapnel from one of the german 88mm? i think they were? that was lodged in the chin turret.
i've also had the NJSPD bring in one of their jet rangers(rescue chopper), and had southstar(south jerseys medivac copter) flown in. none of this cost us anything other than a biiiig thank you.....and each time the kids were so excited it was hard to believe.
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Sounds very interesting. History has also been one of my favorite subjects and finding new ways to get others (children) interested can be a blast. Some of those kids may even have ancesters that fought in the war and may not even be aware of it. Bringing in a WWII vet to speak about it would be icing on the cake. There aren't many left and in a very short period of time, there will be none. Great job!
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That was really good. I enjoyed watching the history lesson. :aok
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Chilli, like you I am appalled by the teachers who give rote answers and fail to appreciate the student's level of comprehension and knowledge. :D
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Sorry FLS,
I slipped off the handle :uhoh Thanks Lusche, for pointing out a hasty misreading.
It has been a couple of years since I have been involved in any educational capacity. My bad days (time spent on curriculum, :rolleyes: < with kids totally disconnected, only leverage I had was a grade) far out numbered my good ones.
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bbosen....something else you might try for the kids.......
i've had a vietnam marine phantom pilot in to our squadron at cap to talk to the kids.....had a bombadier from a b-17 too.
the b-17 guy not only showed up in his original dress uniform, but he brought a piece of shrapnel from one of the german 88mm? i think they were? that was lodged in the chin turret.
i've also had the NJSPD bring in one of their jet rangers(rescue chopper), and had southstar(south jerseys medivac copter) flown in. none of this cost us anything other than a biiiig thank you.....and each time the kids were so excited it was hard to believe.
It sounds like your guys have a great leader. :aok
Our troop once got a similar treat: One of the fathers was a helicopter pilot for the DEA, and he got permission to land his chopper in our parking lot and give the guys a static tour. He then explained to them some of the first-hand horrors he's experienced enforcing the anti-narcotics laws of our country. All of those Boy Scouts will remember that day....
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WELL, i'm proud to say that we have one cadet went to the marines, and just got back from afganastan. this was his second time across the pond. first time was iraq. he's a little messed up in the head right now though from afganastan.
got another girl in the airforce academy, and another girl yet joined the coast guard. she wants to fly choppers.
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CAP1, where do yo ulive please ?
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I'm having a BLAST using Aces High to teach my grandsons, and a group of local Boy Scouts, about World War II aviation history. Check out this YouTube clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZPRsvkRaBs
Excellent video for teaching purposes :aok
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CAP1, where do yo ulive please ?
i'm in south new jersey. why?
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I thought you might be in Arizona, was going to buy you a beer.
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I thought you might be in Arizona, was going to buy you a beer.
well, it's the thought that counts sir...and i do appreciate it. :aok
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:salute