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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Plawranc on February 21, 2011, 07:31:03 PM
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Tell us youre alright.
6.3 quake hit Christchurch, nasty, fatalities, millions of damage.
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Got family down there, sounds really bad this time. Smaller quake but closer and shallower. They just had a big aftershock hit. We are expecting high casualties this time.
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Yeah I just heard it on the radio, it doesn't sound real good.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/quake-aftershock-hits-christchurch/story-e6frf7lf-1226009960218
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It's not an aftershock, it's a new quake from a new fault line. Couple of large buildings have collapsed, we could be into 100's for the deaths.
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Jesus. I just saw the news and came straight here.
Tongs and the rest of the Kiwi contingent... I hope you're all alright.
I'm sure I speak for the rest of the Raw Prawns when I say that we're all thinking of you and hope that you and your loved ones are all ok.
:salute
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Poor buggers are getting hammered with aftershocks, another 5.0 half an hour ago. 65 confirmed dead and they've barely started on clearing rubble.
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I'm here...I'm in Auckland, so far away physically from the damage but know a few people from down there...have heard from most but still a couple I'm waiting for...Definitely a bit nasty...
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Gut wrenching :( http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/videos/4689646
I grew up in christchurch. Have lots of family there.
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:(
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I lived in christchurch for 10 years. Went to uni there. Had 1 of my children there, they both went to school there too. Thankfully all our family and friends are alive, homeless but at least alive.
Our thoughts are with our kiwi brothers, Australia sending heaps of support and help and will continue to do so for as long as required.
The kiwi spirit will shine through.
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Very sad to hear of this.
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Theres some fairly horrific images coming out, so I though I'd share this instead...
(http://cl.ly/4mRD/Screen_shot_2011-02-23_at_3.48.26_PM.png)
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(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/02/22/1226010/191652-new-zealand-earthquake.jpg)
(http://www.worldwidehippies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/163622-new-zealand-earthquake.jpg)
(http://www.dadynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/earthquake-new-zealand.jpg)
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Plawranc there's something special about my pic ;) , I'll give you a clue... they're not christmas trees.
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ROFL
Busssteeed
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Theres some fairly horrific images coming out, so I though I'd share this instead...
(http://cl.ly/4mRD/Screen_shot_2011-02-23_at_3.48.26_PM.png)
Lol
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View of the city just after the quake hit:
(http://i.imgur.com/0vZbD.jpg)
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One of the big problems is liquefaction:
(http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1298492862/280/4698280.jpg)
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Prayers are with anyone involved in this disaster. :pray :salute
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Here's to hope for those that survived.
Man, that was a shallow one Vulcan, no wonder there was liquification. Only 3 miles deep! :pray
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Talking to my family down there the quake was so violent it was impossible to flee. My mother was in the laundry of her house, a small room, yet she could not get her hands to the door handle. Heavy tables, desks, and reception desks that weight 100's of Kg's have been tossed around like toys. It sounds like those that ducked under desks survived, those that made for exits suffered the worst.
You kind of imagine running for the door in these events, it's hard to imagine not being able too like what has happened.
There are 6 major zones where buildings have fallen over or pancaked that they are now in 'recovery' mode.
The city is ruined, even though buildings still stand they are unsafe. Infrastructure is ruined (roads, water, sewage), and worse still the people are deeply psychologically scarred... they've had constant aftershocks since the big 7.1 in Sept last year. They'd just got over that then this happens. Many are leaving the city for good.
I'm now starting too see names I know appear on the list of casualties (I grew up there til my mid-teens, I spent my youth cycling all around that beautiful city). NZ is not a big country, and Christchurch is not a huge city, so it's a case of everyone knows someone lost in the quake :(
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Truly saddening, Vulcan..
If I could lend a hand I would have been down there already..
A farewell to those who have passed this life behind :salute
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Lol at the busted grow operation, talk about being put out and into the open. Hope they let the guy(s) off light, at least they brought a chuckle/laugh to everyone on an otherwise deby downer of a day... and all without actual consumption, zing.
Reminds me of the Northridge quake here in LA when I was a young teen, this one seems a bit worse because it was measurabley shallower. The aftershocks will be the worse, and I'm not talking about the ones since the quake. The random 5._ that will hit outa the blue once every month or two for the next year or two are the worse since you'll be resuming normal life only to experience the quake again while shopping at the super market or the hardware store (both places I personaly don't recomend being during a 5.0+ quake or aftershock coming down from a major quake tragedy).
I'm certian they'll rebuild, best of luck and prayers to them, it'll hopefuly be a distant memory in a couple years.
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Doctors had to either use a hacksaw and Swiss army knife to amputate a trapped man's legs or leave him to die.
After five hours of crawling through the pancaked Pyne Gould Corporation building on Tuesday, Dr Stuart Philip, 38, came across another survivor. But this time, the rubble could not be lifted and the man's trapped lower legs had to be cut off.
"There really wasn't any other option. Essentially the procedure was performed with a Swiss army knife. A builder arrived with a hacksaw. I know that sounds terrible, but that's all we had, " the Brisbane-based urologist said yesterday.
Another urologist performed the operation as she could squeeze in next to the man. She was traumatised and had since travelled back to Australia, he said.
An anesthetist was on hand to administer pain relief, but not enough to dull the agony.
:(
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Casualty count is at 113, there are 3 sites each with 90, 22, and 14 bodies believed to be recovered so it's likely we'll hit 250-300 total.
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Talking to my family down there the quake was so violent it was impossible to flee. My mother was in the laundry of her house, a small room, yet she could not get her hands to the door handle. Heavy tables, desks, and reception desks that weight 100's of Kg's have been tossed around like toys. It sounds like those that ducked under desks survived, those that made for exits suffered the worst.
You kind of imagine running for the door in these events, it's hard to imagine not being able too like what has happened.
My first *big* quake in 2001, I was at work on the 3rd floor of an office building, and did NOT do the right thing, headed for the stairwell when a 6.1 quake hit. It's instinctive.
Fortunately that quake was 10 miles deep and no one was killed though we had some structural cracks on our building. I learned my lesson. Next time, I'm diving UNDER something.
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I've been chatting to a friend down there who works for a Hotel as a maintenance guy...it is his job at the moment to clear away the silt ??? what ever it is from the liquefaction...He says it's the strangest stuff...to touch it feels solid, enough that you have to shovel it...when it is in the wheel barrow, it moves like a concrete mix...but when you go to tip it out it won't and you have to shovel it out.
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I've been chatting to a friend down there who works for a Hotel as a maintenance guy...it is his job at the moment to clear away the silt ??? what ever it is from the liquefaction...He says it's the strangest stuff...to touch it feels solid, enough that you have to shovel it...when it is in the wheel barrow, it moves like a concrete mix...but when you go to tip it out it won't and you have to shovel it out.
Yeah thats the liquefaction at work, agitating it makes it more fluid. Like the cars that drove into it one the day of the quake, then later it solidified.
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Awful stuff. It's terrible to see.
Rash
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Hope everything goes ok
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Saw the first 120 odd NSW police boarding on a QF 734 otw to Christchurch this morning
Tronsky
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LA City and County has had a team over there for three days now, haven't been hearing much though in the news lately 'bout survivors so I assume it's almost all recovery mode now.
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LA City and County has had a team over there for three days now, haven't been hearing much though in the news lately 'bout survivors so I assume it's almost all recovery mode now.
Survivors at this point are unlikely.
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LA City and County has had a team over there for three days now, haven't been hearing much though in the news lately 'bout survivors so I assume it's almost all recovery mode now.
They're in recovery mode now. The big problem is stabilizing the recovery area's, they are still getting aftershocks between 3 and 5. Yesterday they had a 3.3 - doesn't sound bad right? What about if it's only 1km deep!
sigh... the toll has just been revised to 123. I know it's going to hit 200.
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:salute
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The first text message said: "Mommy, I got buried." About 40 minutes later: "Mommy, I can't move my right hand." Then, a brief call from New Zealand's earthquake rubble to parents in the Philippines pleading to send help.
After another harrowing hour in a crumpled building, when she sent a half-dozen more texts about increasing pain, continued shaking and overwhelming smoke, came the final one: "Please make it quick."
That was the last the Amantillo family heard from 23-year-old student Louise Amantillo, who is among dozens of foreigners missing after their language school disintegrated in Tuesday's collapse of the prominent CTV building in Christchurch.
"Her voice was shaking, like she was really scared. I know she was in pain," said her mother, Linda Amantillo, who was desperately hoping that her daughter was still alive three days later.
Officials have said they are virtually certain no one was still surviving in the ruins of the CTV building, and that up to 120 bodies are entombed there.
(http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1298633120/120/4707120.jpg)
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They're in recovery mode now. The big problem is stabilizing the recovery area's, they are still getting aftershocks between 3 and 5. Yesterday they had a 3.3 - doesn't sound bad right? What about if it's only 1km deep!
sigh... the toll has just been revised to 123. I know it's going to hit 200.
Not to sound grim but my guesstimate after reading the first reports and seeing the first images was in the 1-200 fatalities range, given the time of day, observable damage and size of the population. It's a tragedy, but I'm thankful it seems things are now erring on the side of the best out of a very bad situation. I am worried though about the aftershocks, they're extremely shallow and the liquidification problem is very unique, so there's some bad potential there still.
Looking back to our own '94 quake, which hit pre-dawn on a government holiday and monday morning (and I would rate overall as a notch or two less in damage than the one that just hit NZ), the official final toll I think was ~35 deaths directly from the quake (6.7, and relatively deep at 10.5 miles down). It's depth, magnitude and technology at the time made us to believe it was centered in Northridge (thus its name), but after 7-days of analysis it was determined that the epicenter was actualy miles further south and more centraly located in the valley. All us locals to this day and the media at the time considered the casualties at well over 100 due to related issues (people had a heart attack during or imediatley after the quake, couldn't get transported to a hospital or medical care within an hour or more, so they passed from something that on a normal day would be survivable).
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144 now.
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interesting pic, remember this depicts quakes in the area since Sept 2010. The city is on right side under all those red dots and that red star.
(http://www.geonet.org.nz/var/storage/images/media/images/news/2011/lyttelton/57171-1-eng-GB/Lyttelton.jpg)
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Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
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But why do people live in these death traps?
-Penguin
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But why do people live in these death traps?
-Penguin
YOu're talking broadly, right? Like Planet Earth? The reason I ask is no matter where you live on earth, there is some sort of threat that can kill you at any given time.
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I use the term death trap to descrive an area which is more dangerous than other areas.
-Penguin
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I use the term death trap to descrive an area which is more dangerous than other areas.
-Penguin
Christchurch was not an area of concern for earthquakes, whereas the place I live (Wellington) is. That map of quakes is 6 months worth, no more. These are blind or new faults. They have no history of dead bushfires, floods, snowstorms, hurricanes, tornado's, volcano's and so on. If you were describing Christchurch the word death trap would not be on your list.
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I use the term death trap to descrive an area which is more dangerous than other areas.
-Penguin
What part of planet earth do you live on Penguin?
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What part of planet earth do you live on Penguin?
I think he has said he lives in the Northeast
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Yes.
-Penguin
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Have a read here penguin: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/02/new-zealand-shows-even-strong-building-codes-no-match-for-monster-earthquake-experts-say.html
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Well... although I am up here in Auckland...the Christchurch quake has just been felt emotionally....A former RNZN mate whom I joined with was one of the people working in the tower of the cathedral removing the the pipe organ when it collapsed...and has perished...that's NZ for you 2° of separation here...
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When were you in the RNZN spkmes?
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sry to hear that spkmes :(
I had been corresponding with a nice kiwi woman in Christchurch just the day before it happened ... so far no message from her. Kinda worried .. she's a univ. student. Got to wait and see. ><
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When were you in the RNZN spkmes?
89 - 94/5 went on unpaid leave end of 94 and decided I liked civvy street too much to go back so put my requests in and final sign out in 95
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sry to hear that spkmes :(
I had been corresponding with a nice kiwi woman in Christchurch just the day before it happened ... so far no message from her. Kinda worried .. she's a univ. student. Got to wait and see. ><
Not sure if you are looking here Tac...but as morbid as it may seem there is a photo and list of the deceased along with continued updates here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/
PS there is still a lot of the city without power and access for some to a PC my not be easy...
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thanks. I dont see anyone with her first name listed so far so... waiting for the best.
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thanks. I dont see anyone with her first name listed so far so... waiting for the best.
Might not be her first priority to get online after this you know, so don't get depressed yet.
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absolutely.
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Through it all, you sometimes need a sense of humour to get you through
(http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/201110/xx.jpg)
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Got a message from her today. She's OK! :D
:cheers: