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Title: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RichardDarkwood on February 22, 2011, 04:13:32 PM
Since October of last year I have hit four deer on my way to work. Three of those were in the same one mile section of road. The last time I hit a deer was Thursday morning in the Mercedes I just bought. Luckily I was able to find a place that has the new parts
I need. There is a property owner nearby the latter section of road that doesn't allow hunting on his property, In which means there are large amounts of deer herding on his property. One evening on my way home from work I saw over sixty deer grazing in one of his fields.

One of the dispatchers at my work place told me that his wife and her family own quite a bit of the land on the opposite side of the road of the PETA farmer.

Let the war on the deer commence.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/benz003.jpg)


(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/benz001.jpg)


(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/benz002.jpg)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: F22RaptorDude on February 22, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
Spare no mercy mate, kill as many as you can! Just as long as you eat em
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: gpwurzel on February 22, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Todd, send me some venison....errrr please  :D

Go get em fella


Wurzel (sucks that you hit it in a nice motor too)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RichardDarkwood on February 22, 2011, 05:56:51 PM
It didn't do as much inside damage as it looks.

I may bring some Deer jerky to the summer aces high gathering.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: PFactorDave on February 22, 2011, 06:07:19 PM
Critical info for you

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/149674/its-coming-right-for-us
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: allaire on February 23, 2011, 10:44:02 AM
The sad thing is every place that the greenies have gotten the hunting of deer banned or restricted the instances of deer getting hit by cars has gone up.  Imagine that. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: dedalos on February 23, 2011, 12:58:14 PM
That almost looks like an improvement.  Shouldn't you pay the deer instead of shooting it?  :D
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Penguin on February 23, 2011, 01:04:01 PM
The sad thing is every place that the greenies have gotten the hunting of deer banned or restricted the instances of deer getting hit by cars has gone up.  Imagine that. :rolleyes:

There's a difference between exterminating pests (rats, voles, raccoons, or any animal which is causing severe problems) and hunting an animal to near extinction (California Condor, Grey Wolf in Yellowstone).  I agree that the animals are a problem, but the slaughter does need to be controlled.

-Penguin

PS Before anyone makes a joke- yes, I am a pest some times
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Reaper90 on February 23, 2011, 04:36:53 PM
There's a difference between exterminating pests (rats, voles, raccoons, or any animal which is causing severe problems) and hunting an animal to near extinction (California Condor, Grey Wolf in Yellowstone).  I agree that the animals are a problem, but the slaughter does need to be controlled.

apples, oranges

99.9999% of the argument the "animal lovers" have against deer hunting comes from a position of pure ignorance, and is based more on emotion than anything else.

Whitetail deer (at least in the SE US) have virtually no natural predator other than man. In our area hunting is very popular, but controlled. Only certain numbers of deer can be harvested and only at certain times during the year. Deer populations are very healthy, and the deer are healthy.

The opposite situation exists in part of Virginia near DC where a good friend of mine lives. The animal rights activists have gotten hunting all but banned in their area. The result? Whitetail deer populations so out of control that there is intense competition for food. Deer run over by vehicles regularly, deer overrunning neighborhoods and urban areas, and he's found deer carcasses of nearly full grown deer that only reached half of their normal size due to malnourishment, before finally dying of starvation.

Which is a more inhumane situation?

I personally believe in conservationism, and hunting (th only form of population control we have for certain species) is an integral part of that. I never advocate excessive hunting or killing for sport, and only kill what I plan on eating. Sport hunting is OK as long as the meat is donated if the hunter doesn't plan on consuming it (I have family in GA who absolutely live for deer season, yet hate venison... but every ounce of meat they have processed is donated to a local kitchen that feeds the homeless.... so hunters aren't the boogymen after all   ;) ).
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: branch37 on February 23, 2011, 04:40:38 PM
I seem to remember hearing something that in Texas you are within your rights to kill deer out of season if it is destroying your property or being a nuisance.  Granted this does nothing to help the situation on the roads, but I thought it was interesting. 
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: TwinBoom on February 23, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
you just bought that car???

call the BBB on that guy he ripped you off  :lol
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Penguin on February 23, 2011, 05:46:12 PM
apples, oranges

99.9999% of the argument the "animal lovers" have against deer hunting comes from a position of pure ignorance, and is based more on emotion than anything else.

Whitetail deer (at least in the SE US) have virtually no natural predator other than man. In our area hunting is very popular, but controlled. Only certain numbers of deer can be harvested and only at certain times during the year. Deer populations are very healthy, and the deer are healthy.

The opposite situation exists in part of Virginia near DC where a good friend of mine lives. The animal rights activists have gotten hunting all but banned in their area. The result? Whitetail deer populations so out of control that there is intense competition for food. Deer run over by vehicles regularly, deer overrunning neighborhoods and urban areas, and he's found deer carcasses of nearly full grown deer that only reached half of their normal size due to malnourishment, before finally dying of starvation.

Which is a more inhumane situation?

I personally believe in conservationism, and hunting (th only form of population control we have for certain species) is an integral part of that. I never advocate excessive hunting or killing for sport, and only kill what I plan on eating. Sport hunting is OK as long as the meat is donated if the hunter doesn't plan on consuming it (I have family in GA who absolutely live for deer season, yet hate venison... but every ounce of meat they have processed is donated to a local kitchen that feeds the homeless.... so hunters aren't the boogymen after all   ;) ).

THank you for more eloquently illustrating my position than I ever could.

-Penguin
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: MORAY37 on February 23, 2011, 10:05:00 PM


The opposite situation exists in part of Virginia near DC where a good friend of mine lives. The animal rights activists have gotten hunting all but banned in their area.



Not so fast on the blame game.  Where I grew up in PA (suburban Montgomery county), in a setting quite like suburban D.C., it wasn't the animal rights folks that had to do with any of the nulled hunting areas.  Most of the hunting regulations came about from people tired of getting holes in their houses during season.  Comparing the Southeast in any way to the Northeast corridor is absolutely insane.  It is 100X more developed land in the NE.

When I was growing up, I'd say that 5 out of the 7 houses on my street that butted up on woodland got rounds through the walls during hunting season, from idiots that were hunting upslope.  I remember not being allowed outside as a kid because of it, until they passed regulations to stop it, and posted warnings.  My neighbor even had an arrow pierce the second floor siding of his home.  I guess whoever shot it, obviously in view of the house, thought the challenge of the shot was worth the risk.  He missed, duh.

For the record, as a biologist, there has to be some form of top down control on deer, be it predatory or human intervention.  I fully support hunts, when used in appropriate settings.  Unfortunately, deer also learn to associate human activity with easier access to food, in gardens and farm fields.  This makes hunting them in secondary urban developed areas problematic.  



Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: tassos on February 24, 2011, 12:08:50 AM
Try this
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail2-887.gif)

I have those by my Suzuki Sj413 and my Ford scorpio in Greece cause of wild dogs ,sheeps cats its works I have them at the Bumber and Behind the Grill for the Winter
I lost 3 Cars in Germany from Deer s the 4th was damaged by A Deer bull my peeogot 405 sri My wife stopped to let deers pass street than a Big deerbull attacked passenger door.
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail1-887.jpg)
Be carefull by passing Horses,you have to drive under 60km/h when you pass Horses
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: oakranger on February 24, 2011, 12:44:50 AM
Try this
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail2-887.gif)

I have those by my Suzuki Sj413 and my Ford scorpio in Greece cause of wild dogs ,sheeps cats its works I have them at the Bumber and Behind the Grill for the Winter
I lost 3 Cars in Germany from Deer s the 4th was damaged by A Deer bull my peeogot 405 sri My wife stopped to let deers pass street than a Big deerbull attacked passenger door.
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail1-887.jpg)
Be carefull by passing Horses,you have to drive under 60km/h when you pass Horses

Beat me to it.   :old:
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Vulcan on February 24, 2011, 02:51:31 AM
Try this
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail2-887.gif)

I have those by my Suzuki Sj413 and my Ford scorpio in Greece cause of wild dogs ,sheeps cats its works I have them at the Bumber and Behind the Grill for the Winter
I lost 3 Cars in Germany from Deer s the 4th was damaged by A Deer bull my peeogot 405 sri My wife stopped to let deers pass street than a Big deerbull attacked passenger door.
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail1-887.jpg)
Be carefull by passing Horses,you have to drive under 60km/h when you pass Horses

What calibre is that?
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: VonMessa on February 24, 2011, 04:52:08 AM
I seem to remember hearing something that in Texas you are within your rights to kill deer out of season if it is destroying your property or being a nuisance.  Granted this does nothing to help the situation on the roads, but I thought it was interesting. 

I think this applies to border jumpers, too...

 :noid

Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Masherbrum on February 24, 2011, 06:43:04 AM
 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: BowHTR on February 24, 2011, 01:12:10 PM
Try this
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail2-887.gif)

I have those by my Suzuki Sj413 and my Ford scorpio in Greece cause of wild dogs ,sheeps cats its works I have them at the Bumber and Behind the Grill for the Winter
I lost 3 Cars in Germany from Deer s the 4th was damaged by A Deer bull my peeogot 405 sri My wife stopped to let deers pass street than a Big deerbull attacked passenger door.
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail1-887.jpg)
Be carefull by passing Horses,you have to drive under 60km/h when you pass Horses

Im sorry, and in no means am i trying to make you lok stupid, but these things dont work. Their a load of crap. Some law enforcement agencies use them but from my experience they dont do any thing except make a whistling sound when you drive.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: BiPoLaR on February 24, 2011, 01:17:24 PM
Since October of last year I have hit four deer on my way to work. Three of those were in the same one mile section of road. The last time I hit a deer was Thursday morning in the Mercedes I just bought. Luckily I was able to find a place that has the new parts
I need. There is a property owner nearby the latter section of road that doesn't allow hunting on his property, In which means there are large amounts of deer herding on his property. One evening on my way home from work I saw over sixty deer grazing in one of his fields.

One of the dispatchers at my work place told me that his wife and her family own quite a bit of the land on the opposite side of the road of the PETA farmer.

Let the war on the deer commence.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/benz003.jpg)


(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/benz001.jpg)


(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/benz002.jpg)
:aok
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: tassos on February 24, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
I'm sorry, and in no means am i trying to make you lok stupid, but these things dont work. Their a load of crap. Some law enforcement agencies use them but from my experience they dont do any thing except make a whistling sound when you drive.
yes :rofl
but it makes a psychological positive feeling
even Kamikazepilots had Helmets
 :rofl
Hey dont call me Crazy others put spoiler ,wings and commercial on there Car and think they are faster now.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RTHolmes on February 24, 2011, 01:54:03 PM
my bro hit a red deer 2 weeks ago at 60ish. was lucky to get away with a £5,800 repair bill.

he's selling it in April and now its listed as repaired, so figure £2-3,000 off the sale price. :furious
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Babalonian on February 24, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
There's a difference between exterminating pests (rats, voles, raccoons, or any animal which is causing severe problems) and hunting an animal to near extinction (California Condor, Grey Wolf in Yellowstone).  I agree that the animals are a problem, but the slaughter does need to be controlled.

-Penguin

PS Before anyone makes a joke- yes, I am a pest some times

Might want to read up on what almost drove the California Condor to extinction before being ganged and clasified in this forum as another uneducated NRA-hating PETA-loving hunters-kill-so-they-must-be-the-evil hippie.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: eagl on February 25, 2011, 01:05:03 AM

Whitetail deer (at least in the SE US) have virtually no natural predator other than man. In our area hunting is very popular, but controlled. Only certain numbers of deer can be harvested and only at certain times during the year. Deer populations are very healthy, and the deer are healthy.


California experimented with near simultaneous bans on carrying firearms in public parks, preserving mountain lion populations, and restricted deer hunting.  The results were predictable to anyone except the city-dwelling hippies that voted for this perfect storm...  At first it was just hikers and mountain bicyclists that started getting eaten when the cougar population soared, but then you started getting well fed mountain lions cruising populated areas looking for territory because other equally well fed mountain lions had pushed them out of their territory.  See, a starving mountain lion and a well fed mountain lion both want the same amount of territory.  More cats = more territory covered.  Oops.

My dad had to respond to a number of calls (as a CHP officer) to deal with mountain lions that had been hit by cars on major highways.  Many of them survived the impact, leading to injured and pissed off cats wandering through residential areas.  Not good. 

I think CA lost an appeal for the gun carry laws, not sure though.  And I also think ranchers started being allowed to shoot cats again.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Penguin on February 25, 2011, 09:19:51 AM
Might want to read up on what almost drove the California Condor to extinction before being ganged and clasified in this forum as another uneducated NRA-hating PETA-loving hunters-kill-so-they-must-be-the-evil hippie.

Hey, quit it with ad hominem, jeez.  I have no beef with hunters, just so long as they don't drive a species to extinction.  Furthermore, I love guns!  I'm planning on building a potato gun soon, PM me if you have any suggestions/stories.

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

But sorry if I didn't pick the right animal- I admit that was a mistake.  I subsitute the Right Whale  (which is in fact, a species of whale).

-Penguin
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Reaper90 on February 25, 2011, 10:56:46 AM
I subsitute the Right Whale  (which is in fact, a species of whale).


You're thinking of the wrong Whale, unless you meant the Wright Wale.....  ;)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Penguin on February 25, 2011, 11:51:02 AM
Agh, stupid homophones! :bhead 

-Penguin
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Babalonian on February 25, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
California experimented with near simultaneous bans on carrying firearms in public parks, preserving mountain lion populations, and restricted deer hunting.  The results were predictable to anyone except the city-dwelling hippies that voted for this perfect storm...  At first it was just hikers and mountain bicyclists that started getting eaten when the cougar population soared, but then you started getting well fed mountain lions cruising populated areas looking for territory because other equally well fed mountain lions had pushed them out of their territory.  See, a starving mountain lion and a well fed mountain lion both want the same amount of territory.  More cats = more territory covered.  Oops.

My dad had to respond to a number of calls (as a CHP officer) to deal with mountain lions that had been hit by cars on major highways.  Many of them survived the impact, leading to injured and pissed off cats wandering through residential areas.  Not good. 

I think CA lost an appeal for the gun carry laws, not sure though.  And I also think ranchers started being allowed to shoot cats again.



Gotta call a little streching on this, man.  But if you care or desire to discover the devil within the details then I'll try my best to quickly indulge.  There's a lot of things here in California that doesn't originate from any of the hippies, but that they enthusiaticaly jump aboard the bandwagon for once it is put out there.  One of them was the firearms ban in the state parks, that was the brain child of our state's fine State Parks and Law Enforcement unions.

Never been a ban on shooting a big cat in CA (or, as this stuck-in-the-city dwelling Californian will point out to a proud gun-totin _Texan_, any critter in any US state that I can think of) directly threateneing you or your property/livestock.  You've always been able to get a permit/permission from a CA Fish and Game warden to shoot a mountain lion (or bear) that was regularly wandering too close for compfort too.

Mountain Lion conservation was really just making it so that you had to have a reason to shoot a cougar, as before anyone wandering through the woods or mountains that would stumble across one, a threat or not, would take shots at it without any repricutions.  Before there was _no_ regulation, so people would shoot one for just seeing it along the side of a road or go out and poach 12 of them in a month, and there was no law or punishment for these trigger happy gun owners and poachers.  What the law did was pretty much make it so there is never a hunting season on cougar, and if you shoot one without viable permission or without cause you go to jail now.

No firearms in our state parks, unless you have a CC permit, is common sence and I think you're going to agree with me or at least see the logic behind it once I point out a couple quick points you are probabley unaware of.

A)  Most CA State Parks (that are not beaches... but we'll get to that in the next point) were private ranches or land holdings donated to the state over the past 100 or so years.  A few of these ranches and large holdings of land were donated to the state with clauses from the donor that the land be used for public recreation and conservation, and specificaly not hunting.  The feds were unable to make those kind of guarentees, the California State Parks system on the other hand could and soon found itself a rather signifigant land owner as it racked up donation after donation from Hollywood industry types and others that wanted to see their land go to public use and recreation, without Bambi's mother being or father being hunted down (back "in the day" CA had a lot of private deer hunting ranches outside of Los Angeles for the weekend vacationing Hollywooder.  So it's not likely that they were strongly against hunting on the land these types would eventualy later donate to the State Parks, but rather were strong suporters and firm believers in regulating and heavily managing it as they were witnesses themselves to what happens when there is a lack or hunting regulation and how quickly a deer population can be overhunted to near extinction by the public in an small region without any regulation and lots of hunters.  This is also where the strong belief comes from that lead-poisoning lead to the rapid demise of the California Condors since during this time weekend-hunters would venture out and shoot at anything for sport and not food, including condors themselves and many many creatures that they shot for sport, only to leave to rot and the condors would susequently eat the lead shot in the carcases.  In actuality, the sudden lack of food source after the deer population's signifigant demise (as well as the simultaneous decline in other food sources thanks to man... but some of it is speculatory, as we don't really know how many year-round streams/rivers south of San Francisco had annual salmon and steelhead runs or how many fish were in the runs that got completely snubbed out with the construction of damns and irrigation projects built before the turn of the last century, and the Mexican government that occupied CA before that had even worse records to look through for those type of things) in combination with looking for new food sources that were heavily contaminated with the rampant use at the time of extremely harmful agricultural pesticides and poisons were the largest factors to the demise of the CA Condor.).  And to make matters even more complicated, lots of no-hunting parks were starting to have wild hog and sheep problems, so how do you encourage hunting and culling of pests like them on land you agreed to never have hunters on in the name of conserving the natural wildlife and habitat?...

B)  By acreage, the largest share of our state's parks lies on our state's long and expansive coastlines and beaches.  California... Beaches... Sun...  Fun..  and guns?... nope, definetley don't go together no matter how badly I dream of retireing one day with an ocean-front skeet range.  Our beaches are reserved for public use and recreation without the threat of shooting the person sun bathing on the beach blanket down the beach from you.  There are already enough problems on the beaches with drunks, random frisbee/beach-ball incidents and kicking of sand.

C)  The largest problem though nowadays, and one that litteraly developed itself next to the State Parks, is that a vast majority of the State Parks that people wish to recreationaly use guns in on their weekend off (down here in the highly populated metropolitan area of Southern California) are now bordered if not completely surrounded by residential or commercial developments.  This has made the almost undefendable argument in the courts now that a hunter or shooter can't fire his gun twords anything but the ground in these parks or risk the safety of the general public.  Take a population density map and overlay it with one outlining the boundries and territories of our various state parks.  You'll find, that with exception to the coast and beaches, a vast majority of state parks (usualy located on the borders or between private lands and federal lands) are right on the edge or in the middle of heavily populated areas.

So, the solution was to ban all guns for any use in the parks while also having in the fine print on the ballot to allow special permit hunts of animals that threaten the health and conservation of native habitat and species in parks that could feasibley and safely (and economicaly) host hunts on an individual basis.  So now as it is unless you have a permit or specific permision to have a gun or hunt on state park property, you have absolutely no reason or buisness bringing a gun to our parks.

Now, this is just the California State Parks, these no firearm regulations have no impact on the more ruraly located and plentiful amounts of BLM lands and federal forests we have within our state as well.  So it's not like you have no place to go if you live here in the mtropolis of So-Cal.  You just can't go to the state park that's a 5-15 minute drive from your home to plink cans or hunt some deer.  You can go out to the high-dessert or mountains that are 50-90 minutes away and have yourself a good time though.


I am not a hippie, but I am a proud Californian that believes in eating what ya shoot and investing more in the environment than I take from it, and I think most of us are but have just gotten tired of explaining it all.  Think about it, is it jsut easier and less trouble for you to all just call me a tree-hugging hippie and for me to just accept that than have to explain or write something as long as this post every time?   :D
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Vudu15 on February 25, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
Just staying open minded on a lot of these talks will help tons, my self hunting hogs with dogs and knives is the coolest.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: curry1 on February 25, 2011, 05:11:40 PM
There's a difference between exterminating pests (rats, voles, raccoons, or any animal which is causing severe problems) and hunting an animal to near extinction (California Condor, Grey Wolf in Yellowstone).  I agree that the animals are a problem, but the slaughter does need to be controlled.

-Penguin

PS Before anyone makes a joke- yes, I am a pest some times

Deer are overpopulated almost everywhere.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: BowHTR on February 25, 2011, 09:06:34 PM
yes :rofl
but it makes a psychological positive feeling
even Kamikazepilots had Helmets
 :rofl
Hey dont call me Crazy others put spoiler ,wings and commercial on there Car and think they are faster now.
:) very true my friend, very true
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: mtnman on February 25, 2011, 10:55:32 PM
Try this
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail2-887.gif)

I have those by my Suzuki Sj413 and my Ford scorpio in Greece cause of wild dogs ,sheeps cats its works I have them at the Bumber and Behind the Grill for the Winter
I lost 3 Cars in Germany from Deer s the 4th was damaged by A Deer bull my peeogot 405 sri My wife stopped to let deers pass street than a Big deerbull attacked passenger door.
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail1-887.jpg)
Be carefull by passing Horses,you have to drive under 60km/h when you pass Horses

I'm not sure how factual it is, but I read that those actually caused an increase in owl/car collisions.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 13, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
you just bought that car???

call the BBB on that guy he ripped you off  :lol

The car is worth over $25,000 +  it wasn't even offered in America in 1982. It was imported in 1984.


I just found a 1978 450 SLC in Arkansas that is a Euro for $2750.00-----parts car!
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: allaire on April 13, 2011, 07:31:28 PM
Where in the world did someone hide it down here?  Here is the big question does it have the parts you need?
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: ariansworld on April 13, 2011, 08:29:33 PM
Try this
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail2-887.gif)

I have those by my Suzuki Sj413 and my Ford scorpio in Greece cause of wild dogs ,sheeps cats its works I have them at the Bumber and Behind the Grill for the Winter
I lost 3 Cars in Germany from Deer s the 4th was damaged by A Deer bull my peeogot 405 sri My wife stopped to let deers pass street than a Big deerbull attacked passenger door.
(http://www.mein-einkaufsladen.de/media/images/wildwarner-detail1-887.jpg)
Be carefull by passing Horses,you have to drive under 60km/h when you pass Horses
Those wont deter a spooked deer from jumping out in front of you.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Flayed on April 13, 2011, 08:54:07 PM
 Heh last deer I encountered was right after I had come out of a 90 degree corner and had just accelerated back to 50 MPH in an 89 suburban when all of the sudden there were about 8 of the buggers crossing the road.  I locked up all 4 (Note: Older suburbans don't stop on a dime) lol    left some nice grooves in the asphalt and flat spots on the tires.   Only hit one and lucky for me it hit dead center of the grill perfectly lined up with the big thick pipe and plate brush guard (Real one not one of the fakes they stick on new trucks)  and bounced the dear several feet down the road in front of me.   It got back up and ran off as the tire smoke cleared from around me lol.  No damage. lucky me but I'm guessing the deer was not feeling too good after that.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Buzzard7 on April 14, 2011, 12:01:32 AM
Oh yeah the whistles work great. Unfortunately they don't tell the deer which way to run.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: MarineUS on April 14, 2011, 12:31:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-B1Wrc6GA0

My car after I hit 3 deer at the same time.....All on the same side....
Didn't turn out as bad as one would expect.

(I have whistles on my other vehicle - seem to work fine - but as previously stated - it doesn't tell them where to run lol)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RTHolmes on April 14, 2011, 03:05:26 AM
The car is worth over $25,000 +  it wasn't even offered in America in 1982. It was imported in 1984.

no way thats worth $25k, when theres immaculate 280SLs unsold at $10k around at the moment.

I saw one over here last week - 1982, 60k miles, 5-speed manual (rare and desirable) red, tan leather £6k. it was practically concours condition ...

nice car though :aok an ex-girlfriend of mine used to drive a 380SLC, she was tiny so it looked hilarious seeing her drive around in that great boat of a car  :lol
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: mbailey on April 14, 2011, 06:41:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-B1Wrc6GA0

My car after I hit 3 deer at the same time.....All on the same side....
Didn't turn out as bad as one would expect.

(I have whistles on my other vehicle - seem to work fine - but as previously stated - it doesn't tell them where to run lol)
Im not a big fan of those type of cars............but man you did that one up NICE! Looks like shes a blast to drive. Im cryin for ya over here.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: morfiend on April 14, 2011, 11:30:44 AM
no way thats worth $25k, when theres immaculate 280SLs unsold at $10k around at the moment.

I saw one over here last week - 1982, 60k miles, 5-speed manual (rare and desirable) red, tan leather £6k. it was practically concours condition ...

nice car though :aok an ex-girlfriend of mine used to drive a 380SLC, she was tiny so it looked hilarious seeing her drive around in that great boat of a car  :lol


  Have to agree with this,of course the picture of the green SL that was posted isnt anything like the "deer" car even it wouldnt be worth that much.I have a 89 w124 thats in excellent condition,I'm hoping to get maybe 4 grand if I'm lucky.





      :salute
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: Masherbrum on April 14, 2011, 01:17:14 PM
no way thats worth $25k, when theres immaculate 280SLs unsold at $10k around at the moment.

I saw one over here last week - 1982, 60k miles, 5-speed manual (rare and desirable) red, tan leather £6k. it was practically concours condition ...

nice car though :aok an ex-girlfriend of mine used to drive a 380SLC, she was tiny so it looked hilarious seeing her drive around in that great boat of a car  :lol

QFT and  :rofl at the ex.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: smoe on April 14, 2011, 07:45:19 PM
Depending on where this is feeding deer may be illegal. Ask the neighbors across the street if they've seen anything. If so, contact a lawyer and see if sueing this guy is possible. Let the farmer pay for future car damage.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: MarineUS on April 14, 2011, 10:45:10 PM
Im not a big fan of those type of cars............but man you did that one up NICE! Looks like shes a blast to drive. Im cryin for ya over here.
Haha thank you. :)

I normally hate "tuner" cars, but I didn't really build the car to be fast. I built it for show, HOWEVER; I'm thinking of dropping a V-Tech block in it and a single turbo.
Was in the 2003 Street Customs magazine. :)

The bumper got in about 2 weeks ago, now I just have to finish working on the headlights, re-working the electrical issues I now have and then I can start putting it back together. :P

I'm hoping to get it done before I deploy.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: 5PointOh on April 15, 2011, 02:24:29 AM
My deer strike for the year... :(  The headlight and components was 1100.00 by its self.  :ahand

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/DSC00669.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/DSC00671.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z235/nathanyoung1980/DSC00673.jpg)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: icepac on April 15, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
I was driving up RT601 just peaking Mt. Weather (near that strange phone booth sized armored structure)  and a large group of deer walked out in front of my speeding 280zx turbo so I braked as they scattered.....all the same direction which was thankfully laterally to my direction of travel.

All except a huge buck who turned to face me for second before turning 90 degrees toward the rest of the fleeing herd and leisurely cantered off the road.....................just as the corner of my bumper barely grazed his back foot as he cleared my path with about as much force as a slap from an angry girlfriend.

Man that deer hit the afterburners like road runner and a couple of his strides were almost vertical leaps that looked to be over 10 feet high......the power of that buck was just insane.

A few weeks later, I was driving rt 638 (paved rural road) in front royal virginia and noticed something in my peripheral vision as I chugged a subaru wagon down the hilly road.

It was a huge buck and he was racing beside me and looking at me while I sat there going 30mph watching him run beside me when he suddenly put his head down and pounded the passenger door before stopping and striking a "I just kicked your bellybutton pose" as I drove off wondering how much the window glass and mirror was going to cost.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 16, 2011, 07:26:25 AM
Where in the world did someone hide it down here?  Here is the big question does it have the parts you need?

It has all the parts and then some.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 16, 2011, 07:30:04 AM
no way thats worth $25k, when theres immaculate 280SLs unsold at $10k around at the moment.

I saw one over here last week - 1982, 60k miles, 5-speed manual (rare and desirable) red, tan leather £6k. it was practically concours condition ...

nice car though :aok an ex-girlfriend of mine used to drive a 380SLC, she was tiny so it looked hilarious seeing her drive around in that great boat of a car  :lol

Was the ex-girlfriends car a ( EURO ) ?????? Keep in mind that the V-8 engines were and are junk which is what the 380 came with.

Go to the N.A.D.A. site your self and punch in the info. Make sure you click the the Euro option though.


This is the 1978 450 SLC I located. This car is a EURO as well. I blue booked it @ $8500.00 the way it sits. I am picking it up for $2750.00

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/102_2036.jpg)


(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/102_2033.jpg)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RTHolmes on April 16, 2011, 10:04:43 AM
yeah the 380 was rhd british registered.


I checked the NADA values and frankly they are nonsense, I dont know where they get the figures from but a quick look around the web shows several mint 280SLs and none of them are over $15k. even if they were correct, hoping for above the high retail price is ... optimistic.

put it this way, do you think its worth double the price of this http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/1982-euro-mercedes-280sl-4-speed/ (http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/1982-euro-mercedes-280sl-4-speed/)?

I'm not having a go at you here, its just that having owned a couple of classics I know what money pits they can be and I'd hate to see you spend more on repairing and restoring it than you'll get back. :)


edit: this is what a high retail classic should look like: http://timelessmotorclassics.com/82blue280SL.htm (http://timelessmotorclassics.com/82blue280SL.htm)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: fbEagle on April 16, 2011, 10:15:45 AM
This is how i control the deer population in my neck of the woods  :aok
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/BigBull.jpg)
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: sntslilhlpr6601 on April 16, 2011, 03:52:04 PM
Saw a ton of elk on the last leg of my drive from Boston to the Phoenix area last week. If you hit one of those guys you're gonna have more to worry about than just your car. Those things hurt.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: icepac on April 16, 2011, 07:41:28 PM
Rust on the unibody, interior condition, and completeness determines a vintage mercedes value....as with most  cars.

You could have the most cherry 450sl ever but a rusted floor makes it worth little more than a few hundred dollars as a car and more as a parts car.
Title: Re: War Against Das Deer
Post by: RichardDarkwood on April 27, 2011, 06:39:22 PM
didn't take wrong way rt, i will never sell it anyway