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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yarbles on February 26, 2011, 05:21:46 AM
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From my experience as nothing special in fighters the easiest plane to land multiple kills in is the P51D.
People complain about the la7, spit 16, brewster and nikki but the easiest plane the 51 is the most popular but no one seems to mind that.
Any ideas why?
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Complains also seem to be en vogue at certain times for certain times. Once it was all about the Runstangs. Then Spit 16 and La 7 for years. Now Spixteen whines have been replaced with Brewster ones.
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Complains also seem to be en vogue at certain times for certain times. Once it was all about the Runstangs. Then Spit 16 and La 7 for years. Now Spixteen whines have been replaced with Brewster ones.
I've pulled many a hairs out of me head because of La-7's; you're hard-pressed to out-turn them and you ain't outrunning them. Guys flying N1K's do weird stunts and cut my tail off occasionally..
I can't imagine anybody whining about the Brewster besides the fact that any pilot paying attention can be very difficult to get a shot on. If people are whining about getting shot down by them then they're doing something wrong.
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If people are whining about getting shot down by them then they're doing something wrong.
The brewster is slow but some consider it over modelled as it dives and accelerates well over a low speed range.
I don't understand why people complaign about the la7 nikki and spit 16 other than they need something to complain about when they arn't performing as well as they think they should.
Doesn't explain why people don't see the 51 as dweebish when it seems to me the easiest palne to do well in.
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Isnt the la7 much easyer than the 51 (in tipical low alt MA use)? Turns better, better guns, accelerates faster, still can dive like crazy also faster than the pony at low alts. Excellent all round plane.
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Isnt the la7 much easyer than the 51 (in tipical low alt MA use)? Turns better, better guns, accelerates faster, still can dive like crazy also faster than the pony at low alts. Excellent all round plane.
The Pony is faster at ALT, more ammo and better range so makes a better pick and run plane.
BTW I don't consider any plane dweebish as such I just wonder why those who use the plane as an excuse don't pick on the 51 more.
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Well, the pony is faster at alt, way better for the events. But... in the MA if you play pick n run, then you dont need good high altitude speed. You come high, BnZ as long as you have E (the la climbs well, regains E quick), then run home on the deck. Thats why the Temp is perked to 50, even though it isnt the best at high altitudes.
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Well, the pony is faster at alt, way better for the events. But... in the MA if you play pick n run, then you dont need good high altitude speed. You come high, BnZ as long as you have E (the la climbs well, regains E quick), then run home on the deck. Thats why the Temp is perked to 50, even though it isnt the best at high altitudes.
If your not a skilled picker it takes time which means fuel and alt stops you getting picked. You fly in above the fight look for someone on the edge or going home rtb fuel etc or already in a fight and pick them.
You would quickly run out of fuel and ammo in the la7 and coming in above the fight you are losing advantages.
I am sure the la7 is a good short range picker though.
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any plane that I'm flying is easy to kill.
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i think yarbles has been getting picked by ponies... :lol
looks like you're saying the runstang is an easy plane to pick and run in...mostly true...but so are several other late war rides...if i could shoot worth a bean, pony would be an easy kill as it is for some toon pile-its i know of...n1ks, lalas and spit 14/16s are a lot easier to fly, and you're hard pressed to get away from the things once they get on your 6...
if i were going to do nothing but cherry pick i'd use a spit...
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From my experience as nothing special in fighters the easiest plane to land multiple kills in is the P51D.
People complain about the la7, spit 16, brewster and nikki but the easiest plane the 51 is the most popular but no one seems to mind that.
Any ideas why?
Add the Dora to that list and not complaining at all that they are "dweeb rides", just dweeb pile its. Im seeing more and more P51 guys either being radar warriors and augering after toolshedding or you end up chasing them 2 sectors to coax them into a fight.
I can out manuever a LA7 in most rides and the Brew Ive learned how to BnZ and not to get lured into the turnfight. The Nik can do amazing things in a tight furball but once you commit, you are an easy target to get picked. The saving grace of the 16 is that 99% of them are new guys behind the joystick and they are not very durable once shot up.
My oppinion is spend less time worrying about what the other guy is flying and find ways to beat it instead of whining about it.
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Ok.. it's American History Lecture time.
Please locate the nearest crucible of salt grains to ingest while reading the following:
The reason the P51 isn't picked on or put down by those that choose to place blame on the airplane modeling/performance is simply because all Americans have been taught by Hollywood that the P51 won the war for, not only the USA, but the entire combined allied forces. This is ingrained from our very first exposure to WW2 aircraft and perpetuated in our culture by a very popular performance automobile.
The P51 Mustang is an integral part of our culture. It can't possibly be a bad thing.
LA-7s, however, didn't exist until AW and AH came out. We Americans never heard about it, so it must be fabricated. It can't possibly be that good. All the Soviets ever did was copy our airplanes, nuclear weapons, and enslaved their people. How could they possibly have an aeronautical industry capable of producing such a good airplane? No.. it simply can't be, so the modeling is wrong. ( the author was even guilty of this belief in his younger years ).
Nikki. What a farce. Everybody knows the Japanese didn't have any aircraft worth a darn after the Zero. It's obvious, since our mighty US Navy massacred them from the skies at every opportunity.. after Midway, of course. There is no way that a documented fact that the Japanese spent no considerable effort to actually TRAIN the pilots they stuck in those birds, would yield such a discrepancy between the planes historical performance and it's virtual lethality. Obviously, the plane is modeled all wrong.
Brewster. Again, all good Americans who are up to date on their aviation history know that this bird was a sentence of death to anybody who had to fly them at Midway. There is no other version of the plane..anywhere. Finnish Air Force? That's just the line a the end of a race, right? C'mon.. you can't improve on American Engineering. Obviously, this plane, too, is modeled wrong.
Now.. after you clean the dripping sarcasm off your monitor, I think you'll understand a lot of the underlying opinions about certain aircraft. I know the first time I encountered the Niki in AW, I was demoralized at how well it did. Shook my historical confidence to the core.. to where I discovered how little I really knew about how aircraft performed. Keep in mind, I had lived WW2 aircraft from grade school ( we had these things called Libraries.. they had books.. we read books. Spam was something mom served for dinner. And getting booted was something that happened when dad didn't feel like sending you out to the woods to find a switch ) and these fancy-dancy flight sims didn't show up until I was 30, or so.. I already knew everything. Accepting these alternative histories doesn't really set well with some.
However, I still don't like the LA-7.. :devil
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From my experience as nothing special in fighters the easiest plane to land multiple kills in is the P51D.
People complain about the la7, spit 16, brewster and nikki but the easiest plane the 51 is the most popular but no one seems to mind that.
Any ideas why?
Because it has everything to do with your skill level. To succeed with the P-51 requires a bit of BFM knowledge, good SA, and accurate gunnery. If you have those things, you can mop up with it.
The La-7, Spit 16, and Nikki allow a less skilled pilot to succeed to some extent where they would be absolutely crushed in the P-51. Most people hate to see a less skilled pilot succeed, i.e. shoot them down, hence the complaints.
As for complaints about the Brewster, that's just crazy.
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Spit 16 and La7 easiest planes to get kills in. Fun to fly aswell :D
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For me the easiest plane to get kills in has always been the FW190A-8. My K/D ratio in that plane over time FAR surpasses any other including my beloved Spitfires. Maybe it's the way I fly it, maybe it's the targets I choose but that plane and I have always gotten along well together.
It's why I jumped at the chance to fly one in BOG and for an average pilot like myself I've tied for third on the top Axis kills list in the practice frame and frame 2 although a lot of that can be attributed to the guys I've been flying with there (III/JG11). Can't wait to see what happens tonight.
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The brewster is slow but some consider it over modelled as it dives and accelerates well over a low speed range.
Just a general comment...
What "accelerates well" means is obviously subjective and means different things to different people but for example, Fw190A-8 accelerates better on the deck and nobody seems to be screaming about its acceleration.
The whines about Brewster's acceleration usually come for bad SA, poor perception/reading of the situation and from just plain lack of ACM/3D-perception.
It is much easier to shooth ones ego by making one self believe that getting shot down was caused by something that the person himself has no control over than actually learning from the experience and getting better at flying.
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If your not a skilled picker it takes time which means fuel and alt stops you getting picked. You fly in above the fight look for someone on the edge or going home rtb fuel etc or already in a fight and pick them.
You would quickly run out of fuel and ammo in the la7 and coming in above the fight you are losing advantages.
I am sure the la7 is a good short range picker though.
I find these terms to be mutually exclusive
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lol
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lol
Im laughing to micky :lol
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For myself, I must agree that the P51 is the easiest to land multiple kills in. Specifically that. I can get multiple kills in alot of aircraft but the P51's abilities do allow a confident egress so you can escape after youve gotten your kills and land them. I do not fly it very often, kind of hard to say why. Lately I have become completely enamored of the F4U-C. 4 20mm Cannons, combined with the ability to drop your gear at 400+ MPH and bleed speed when neccessary makes up for the fairly poor climb rate. If you want to shoot down buffs, one pass and it is a kill everytime you get guns on.
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I will compair the La-7 to La-5FN here (which is just a 7 without the training wheels) and say that yeah it may be a skilled picker, but it is also a great dogfighter when you get to know it, the slats and the wing drop are hard to get used to if you fly N1K's yeah, and first timers will have trouble with the guns, but once you get used to it you will find your self mixing it up more and more often, not to say I dont pick anymore which I do, but after awhile in the La-7 or 5, you will start to seek out 1v1's and also seeing what the plane is really capable of
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The D9 is very good at landing kills,but the Pony is good as well.Good sticks can land kills in any airplane.I'm not one of that contingent.AP Drone said the Japanese didn't have any good planes but the Zero.I take issue with that.The Niki,Tony,KI 84, and 100,plus the Jack were all very respectable planes.The Japanese had a few veteran pilots left towards the end of the war,and I read a story where one ace shot down 11 Navy fighters in one day in a Niki.Most the other pilots were doing the Kamikase thing, being escorted by vets to their targets.
I really hate it when I get my arse handed to me by a Brewster,P40,I16 etc.I seen snefens land 6 kills in a 202,now that's showing skill as a pilot,and yes I was one of them!
There are a few pilots that furball and still land kills constantly,now that is showing true S.A. and fighting ability.E fighters and B&zers(pickers),thats o.k. too.Just have fun!
The Dawg
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I just wonder why those who use the plane as an excuse don't pick on the 51 more.
You obviously haven't played this game for any significant length of time. Whines about the P-51 used to be as common as whines about the La7, N1K2, etc.
ack-ack
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AP Drone said the Japanese didn't have any good planes but the Zero.I take issue with that.
:headscratch: uh yeah...you obviously missed the sarcasm in drone's post...maybe some more coffee...i had a full pot and it helped me... :D
Ok.. it's American History Lecture time.
Please locate the nearest crucible of salt grains to ingest while reading the following:
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I've been actually having some success in our good friend the C205 this tour. I don't think people respect the C205 as much as they should. It has a lot going for it, in my opinion.
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Any ideas why?
Because it does not really matter. :aok
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The only aircraft here worth complaining about is the I-16.
No other plane is so annoying, or so easily capable of landing kills for unskilled pilots.
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I love when people underestimate me in the 51 and think I am not going to fight them. We merge, and" OH LOOK, I didn't just extend...im on your tail...you're dead." Its hilarious to see the precise moment when they panic, but its too late...you are not gonna out scissor me. Only the best of the best 109 of F4U guys can ever reverse me, and most of the times they don't. This is what separates the DA from the MA...the uncertainty of what will happen on the merge. It gives the 51 pilot a huge advantage because most people think they wont fight. I love the fact that people think only dweebs fly 51s. I also love the fact that not just any dweeb can fly it correctly. I will fight anything equal terms 1v1...Spit, 262...anything. I don't always win, but most of the time I do. 51 is the best all around plane in the game, but it takes someone who knows what they are doing to fly it right....just like ANY plane.
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Complains also seem to be en vogue at certain times for certain times. Once it was all about the Runstangs. Then Spit 16 and La 7 for years. Now Spixteen whines have been replaced with Brewster ones.
I have noticed the La7 whines dissapating. Years back the La7 was for noobs only, now its just for Hoagi.
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I know the first time I encountered the Niki in AW, I was demoralized at how well it did.
I know the memory fades as the years go by but I recall that AW didn't have the N1K2 like we do but rather the N1K1-J.
ack-ack
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I'm an average pilot, but when I fly te spixteen I have no trouble wiggling my way out of a 2v1, or even a 3v1.
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I hear so much praise for the Spitfires. I've flown them a bit and have gotten a few kills, but I never get shot down by Spits. When I see them in a furball I'm like, "I'll get to him eventually, there's more imminent threats in the area."
Unless he's in a XIV, those scare the crap out of me. :eek:
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Years back the La7 was for noobs only, now its just for Hoagi.
Hoagi? Bah he's a dweeb. The LA-7 is for me and only for me.
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i think yarbles has been getting picked by ponies... :lol
Not at all and please don't judge me by those standards even if they are yours. Try to comprehend that not everyone on these forums is an adolescent or an overgrown version of the same.
I probably need to explain to you that not everyone is so under developed that they can't see their own role clearly in their fortunes and needs to blame the game when things don't work out how they would like them to.
My point is that the 51 is very common and in my experience an easy plane to land kills in so I am surprised more people don't whinge about it like they do other rides.
My oppinion is spend less time worrying about what the other guy is flying and find ways to beat it instead of whining about it.
Again not whining about it making an observation. I am beggining to think there are more testosterone overdosing teenagers in the game than I first thought.
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My point is that the 51 is very common and in my experience an easy plane to land kills in so I am surprised more people don't whinge about it like they do other rides.
Like I mentioned earlier, if you had played this game for any length of time that you'd know that what you claim isn't true.
ack-ack
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Like I mentioned earlier, if you had played this game for any length of time that you'd know that what you claim isn't true.
ack-ack
Agreed there was all the runstang stuff from way back but why did it stop then?
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Ok.. it's American History Lecture time.
Please locate the nearest crucible of salt grains to ingest while reading the following:
The reason the P51 isn't picked on or put down by those that choose to place blame on the airplane modeling/performance is simply because all Americans have been taught by Hollywood that the P51 won the war for, not only the USA, but the entire combined allied forces. This is ingrained from our very first exposure to WW2 aircraft and perpetuated in our culture by a very popular performance automobile.
The P51 Mustang is an integral part of our culture. It can't possibly be a bad thing.
LA-7s, however, didn't exist until AW and AH came out. We Americans never heard about it, so it must be fabricated. It can't possibly be that good. All the Soviets ever did was copy our airplanes, nuclear weapons, and enslaved their people. How could they possibly have an aeronautical industry capable of producing such a good airplane? No.. it simply can't be, so the modeling is wrong. ( the author was even guilty of this belief in his younger years ).
Nikki. What a farce. Everybody knows the Japanese didn't have any aircraft worth a darn after the Zero. It's obvious, since our mighty US Navy massacred them from the skies at every opportunity.. after Midway, of course. There is no way that a documented fact that the Japanese spent no considerable effort to actually TRAIN the pilots they stuck in those birds, would yield such a discrepancy between the planes historical performance and it's virtual lethality. Obviously, the plane is modeled all wrong.
Brewster. Again, all good Americans who are up to date on their aviation history know that this bird was a sentence of death to anybody who had to fly them at Midway. There is no other version of the plane..anywhere. Finnish Air Force? That's just the line a the end of a race, right? C'mon.. you can't improve on American Engineering. Obviously, this plane, too, is modeled wrong.
Now.. after you clean the dripping sarcasm off your monitor, I think you'll understand a lot of the underlying opinions about certain aircraft. I know the first time I encountered the Niki in AW, I was demoralized at how well it did. Shook my historical confidence to the core.. to where I discovered how little I really knew about how aircraft performed. Keep in mind, I had lived WW2 aircraft from grade school ( we had these things called Libraries.. they had books.. we read books. Spam was something mom served for dinner. And getting booted was something that happened when dad didn't feel like sending you out to the woods to find a switch ) and these fancy-dancy flight sims didn't show up until I was 30, or so.. I already knew everything. Accepting these alternative histories doesn't really set well with some.
However, I still don't like the LA-7.. :devil
Are you looking to get banned or something :lol?
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Agreed there was all the runstang stuff from way back but why did it stop then?
It hasn't. People still whine as much as they did before about the "Runstang".
ack-ack
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My point is that the 51 is very common and in my experience an easy plane to land kills in so I am surprised more people don't whinge about it like they do other rides.
sorry yarbles...i disagree...since i've been here, in the lw ma's for every runstang you see in a fight there are 10 spits of various versions...and very few runstangs get away compared to la7s.
take a look at the plane stats...last tour the p-51d had a k/d of 1.23 compared to the la7 1.36... c-hog had a whopping 2.78 k/d ratio...just going by the numbers doesn't look like the runstang gets away that often...
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sorry yarbles...i disagree...since i've been here, in the lw ma's for every runstang you see in a fight there are 10 spits of various versions...and very few runstangs get away compared to la7s.
take a look at the plane stats...last tour the p-51d had a k/d of 1.23 compared to the la7 1.36... c-hog had a whopping 2.78 k/d ratio...just going by the numbers doesn't look like the runstang gets away that often...
lol, doesn't look like the latter aircraft get flown as often. And the Pony's popularity attracts pilots of all skill levels.
And the C-Hog is generally only going to be flown by guys who are confident they're going to land some kills (and have the skills to back up that confidence).
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I hear so much praise for the Spitfires. I've flown them a bit and have gotten a few kills, but I never get shot down by Spits. When I see them in a furball I'm like, "I'll get to him eventually, there's more imminent threats in the area."
Unless he's in a XIV, those scare the crap out of me. :eek:
are you sure you never get shot down by them
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are you sure you never get shot down by them
I might have fallen to a few last ToD when I was learning the ropes, but so far this ToD... I don't think so. I think one gave me a run for my money a few days ago but I landed that sortie...
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The plane on my 6 is the easiest plane to get kills in.
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Okay I'm going generic. Any plane in the right hands gets a bunch of kills. I twice beat an la7 in a Stuka while milk running. Granted the guy probably thought easy kill. Sometimes it is tough to get a kill in any plane. I think I have had only one kill in a zero and that was in a scenario. Yet I've seen great pilots dish out death in that thing.....in heaping amounts. Ponies do seem good if you are going for K/D. I used one to go to 35/1 once. However I like to get dirty and Ponies aren't really good for that though I'm sure I could be taught a lesson in one by the right pilot.
Today one of my countrymen was being worked by 2 ponies. I came to help and those rascals were about 4k above me. So now I'm getting bnz'd. Finally after a few minutes I got one to bite. It looked to him like he had me. Not so. then about 5 our guys came in. When one saw is buddy vaporize the ran but darn, he ran the wrong way. :rofl :rofl
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P51D got its balls nipped....went from an 8 eny to a 5. Pretty sure its because of the whining that used to happen about it.
Spit16 makes harder reverses, moves, overshoots alot easier......quote that from a sqauddie of yours.
LA7 alot easier to fly then some would think....not all La7 pilots always are going fast.
N1K has a ton of ammo....KI84 rails it in a 1v1
Brew most people who fly it exxagerrate every bad thing about this game, going for HOs, ack hugging, picking off people already engaged in multicon engagements(being the 3-4 in). The guns are said to suck because of lack of ammo but its still not too hard to get 4-5 kills in even with par gunnery and being M2s on a good platform for shooting they are like lasers and hit important parts.
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P-51D might be easy for a GOOD PILOT to get kills in because once it has it's speed, it maintains it fairly well (If kept coordinated and the pilot has an idea what he is doing). However, it it's hopelessly outmatched by a lot of the LW plane-set once it loses said speed and requires an "experienced" P-51 pilot to actually compete. Generally good pilots know this, so they BnZ, which allows a build-up of kills from a rather safe distance. Most new pilots have NO IDEA about E retention, coordination, and how to lead a target, and when they fly the P-51D, they mostly end up dead.
The propaganda argument is absolutely silly; the propaganda doesn't keep people from calling it a dweeb ride. In fact, the propaganda is the reason we see huge amounts of whines that the P-51 isn't "uber enough" in this game. They reason that if it actually "won the war," why does everything outmatch it?
Spit 16's, LA-7's, (insert "dweeb ride" here) are the planes that outmatch most in-game aircraft in multiple dimensions.
Try to fly a P-51D like a Spit 16, and you will quickly realize why it actually does take some skill to dogfight a P-51. Fly a Spit 16 like a P-51D and you'll get the same, if not better results. The Spit 16 is one of the most forgiving aircraft on the planet, in terms of stall, E retention, power-to-weight, maneuverability, and just general engage/disengage ability. This is also why it is the most recommended aircraft to new players.
When you really look at the stats on the birds, you'll find that the P-51D is actually a very mediocre fighter. It's only big advantage in terms of real-life: It's range.
When it comes to the Brewster whines... It's because people misjudge it's E state. "WHAT?! HOW did that Brewster keep up with me at 500mph?!" "I'm pretty sure it's because he dove from 15,000 feet... but who knows." "Not possible. Nope, it's overmodeled."
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Tempest is easiest for me. Fastest prop plane, lots of firepower, and plenty of ammo. Keep speeds above 280-300 TAS, keep the turns gentle to to the right, and dont ever get below 5-7k alt.
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In my humble (and now noobish opinion)...
Defending against CV aircraft in a Hurricane IIC is by far the easiest and quickest way to get kills for the average player. Unless, for a player who is used to the ballistics of the N1K cannon, that is by far the easiest plane to rack up a lot of kills in a very short time while on the defensive.
If you are bringing the fight to the enemy and expect to have the advantage, then I think the Hawker Tempest is the best... unless of course, you are used to flying the 262 (I mean aggressively and on the deck, none of this coming in at 7k and keeping alt nonsense)....
IMO the 51 is good if you plan on staying alive, but the guns just aren't that great. Better off in a Jug, take a lot of fuel and ammo and take your time if you plan on a high kill sortie and landing them.
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Of course the 51 does in reality require some skill to achieve results. However the average AH player is a little bit up themselves about this and does not or will not recognise this.
Simply:
La7; Point and squirt (ALTHOUGH THE SKILLED CAN DO MORE)
Nikki, Spit 16; Turn.
51 requires the skill to boom and zoom which is a bit more difficult to learn. Basically its not as easy as the others but when you have mastered it its speed allows you to dip in and out of a fight at will without advanced skills like knowing how to reverse.
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i, for one, love the spit16
simply because almost every spit16 i encounter in my FM-2, the pilot foolishly thinks he can outturn me in a low-speed engagement. i can count of atleast 50 spit16s that need a spare wing :D
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i, for one, love the spit16
simply because almost every spit16 i encounter in my FM-2, the pilot foolishly thinks he can outturn me in a low-speed engagement. i can count of atleast 50 spit16s that need a spare wing :D
SSSSshhhh ... geeesh ... you're letting the cat out of the bag.
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Tempest is easiest for me. Fastest prop plane, lots of firepower, and plenty of ammo. Keep speeds above 280-300 TAS, keep the turns gentle to to the right, and dont ever get below 5-7k alt.
The tempest is not the fastest prop plane. Its lower alt speed is what gives it its uber ability in the MA. Put it in the special events and in higher alt.....and ehh...its ok.
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I do my best in the LA-7, unless I'm defending a base getting over-run, then it's the 16 for me.
Short legs of the LA can be overcome with use of throttle. Get it up to speed, then pull back to 3/4 throttle. You're still running faster than most other rides at wot, but burning less gas.
Biggest peeve I have with LA is pw's. I can collect a pw with 1 ping from a dead 6 shot. Hellow AH. La's did have armour behind pilot, including the armored glass.
51 great for bnz, but u better know what you are doing if you plan to slow down. One of my favorite jabbo's though, as you have a plane you can fight after the ords are gone.
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Yarbles, if all you do is BnZ yes the 51 is rather easy to get kills in, or most planes in AH. It really depends on there player imo. If they are just in it for kills they will BnZ. Then look at players like OlDemon, PK1 and some others that will put a 51 in a low alt stall fight. The 51 is a handful at low alts. Its hardly a good turning plane at low speeds, its acceleration is rather poor, and has a tendancy to snap at low speeds.
You're only looking at the way some fly it. It would be like me saying that all the Spit drivers a whining turny dweebs.
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It would be like me saying that all the Spit drivers a whining turny dweebs.
Most of them are... But some of them are astronaut cherry picking dweebs too! :rofl
They're all dweebs though! :bolt:
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i, for one, love the spit16
simply because almost every spit16 i encounter in my FM-2, the pilot foolishly thinks he can outturn me in a low-speed engagement. i can count of atleast 50 spit16s that need a spare wing :D
Spixteen can't outturn the fm2, but I can take you into the vert and make it my fight.
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Spixteen can't outturn the fm2, but I can take you into the vert and make it my fight.
Not until he blows his energy.
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I do my best in the LA-7, unless I'm defending a base getting over-run, then it's the 16 for me.
Short legs of the LA can be overcome with use of throttle. Get it up to speed, then pull back to 3/4 throttle. You're still running faster than most other rides at wot, but burning less gas.
Hey bro, little bit of advice for a fellow Lala driver. You're better off reducing the rpm's as opposed to the throttle, you'll get much greater range for the amount of fuel used.
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Spixteen can't outturn the fm2, but I can take you into the vert and make it my fight.
as long as you are some distance away from me.
i can't count how many times i've killed spits or ponys because he turned, i took a shot, and he went into the vertical. smart tactic, right? not when i'm only D200 out ;)
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as long as you are some distance away from me.
i can't count how many times i've killed spits or ponys because he turned, i took a shot, and he went into the vertical. smart tactic, right? not when i'm only D200 out ;)
Some of the easiest kills I have had have been in a turny plane diving in i.e. Hurri 1. You get on someones six 200 out game over. To get back to land kills in these planes though it is more often luck than judgement if you are any distance from a friendly base.
Probably the easiest planes to get a kill in are the Brewster, Zero, Hurri 2c etc landing them is often a different story. When it comes to skill though I would say the above offer allot of return for very little in close 1 v 1. If I was advising a newb how to get his first non HO kill I would suggest dive into a furball in one of the above and get hold of someones six and hold on to it.
Experienced players with a bit of nouse seem to use the slow turners close to their base or CV.
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Hey bro, little bit of advice for a fellow Lala driver. You're better off reducing the rpm's as opposed to the throttle, you'll get much greater range for the amount of fuel used.
take it to 9k full throttle no wep and set it at 2100 rpm and you will have 30 min of fuel
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somehow I felt guilty reading this :D
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Some of the easiest kills I have had have been in a turny plane diving in i.e. Hurri 1. You get on someones six 200 out game over. To get back to land kills in these planes though it is more often luck than judgement if you are any distance from a friendly base.
Probably the easiest planes to get a kill in are the Brewster, Zero, Hurri 2c etc landing them is often a different story. When it comes to skill though I would say the above offer allot of return for very little in close 1 v 1. If I was advising a newb how to get his first non HO kill I would suggest dive into a furball in one of the above and get hold of someones six and hold on to it.
Experienced players with a bit of nouse seem to use the slow turners close to their base or CV.
that's what's so great about the wildcat. stick that nose down, and it becomes just as fast as any other plane, and can turn inside of them still. and you're right, the only time i ever land kills in a wildcat is when i'm defending a base or CV :lol
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When you really look at the stats on the birds, you'll find that the P-51D is actually a very mediocre fighter. It's only big advantage in terms of real-life: It's range.
When it first entered the field, it was much faster than its typical opposition (109G6s and 190As) with comparable maneuverability.
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Ok.. it's American History Lecture time.
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Keep in mind, I had lived WW2 aircraft from grade school ( we had these things called Libraries.. they had books.. we read books. Spam was something mom served for dinner. And getting booted was something that happened when dad didn't feel like sending you out to the woods to find a switch ) and these fancy-dancy flight sims didn't show up until I was 30, or so..
However, I still don't like the LA-7.. :devil
Heh! :aok
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The P-51's reputation is NOT propaganda. When it entered service it was much faster than its typical opposition while exhibiting climb and turn parity with them (at altitude.). IOW, it was every fighter pilot's wet dream.
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I sincerely doubt that very many pilots in action pushed their aircraft to the limits that cartoon pilots do. Take away the purposeful stalls, and wing overs, I believe the pony would have been the pilots choice.
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I sincerely doubt that very many pilots in action pushed their aircraft to the limits that cartoon pilots do. Take away the purposeful stalls, and wing overs, I believe the pony would have been the pilots choice.
I sincerely doubt your sincere doubt :D
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Don't ignore the P-51D's ord package either. The ability to carry 3000 lbs. of ords and then fight effectively after delivering them is a huge in-game asset - I assume that's why the F4U-1D has a lower ENY than the -1A despite being an inferior fighter. To put it another way, don't just compare the pony's fighting ability relative to pure fighters, compare it to other planes able to carry a similar ord loadout and its fighting ability looks more impressive.
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The P-51's reputation is NOT propaganda. When it entered service it was much faster than its typical opposition while exhibiting climb and turn parity with them (at altitude.). IOW, it was every fighter pilot's wet dream.
The Pony was typically a generation ahead of other fighters of the era and lasted longer I beleieve than any other in front line service with admitedly second rate military powers.
It has speed, range, manovreability but above all it had numbers. There is no comparable air craft on the allied or axis side.
One of its great strenghts in game is that is discourages you from getting into energy sapping dog fights which increases your chances of RTB. US fighter pilots would be looking to escourt bombers and kill german fighters ideally on the ground though the Pony used correclty is a match for all but the 262 in the air. If they outnumbered the enemy 2 or 3 to 1 I am sure they didn't mind