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Title: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: badhorse on February 26, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
Over the years I've seen a ton of post wishing for the B-29. Well, the wishes have been granted.
Sure haven't seen much of them though.   Just saying.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 26, 2011, 07:18:19 PM
Sure haven't seen much of them though.   Just saying.

Maybe because of 300 perks for a formation? ;)
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: badhorse on February 26, 2011, 07:20:51 PM
Maybe because of 300 perks for a formation? ;)

Too true.  But even the most ardent wishers must have know that they would come with a high price.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 26, 2011, 07:22:48 PM
Too true.  But even the most ardent wishers must have know that they would come with a high price.

Should they not had wished for it then?
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: L0nGb0w on February 26, 2011, 07:25:04 PM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll202/AWhetstone99/atmosphere.gif)

I found them!
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Bruv119 on February 26, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
maybe they read the sign.

"alt+ F4 for Nukes" 
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: badhorse on February 26, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
Should they not had wished for it then?

I didn't mean that.  That's what wishes are for and I'm glad that HTC listened.  Actually the more airplanes and vehicles we have to choose from the better.  It's only that due to the shear number of requests for that particular airplane, I thought we would see more of them.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 26, 2011, 07:40:08 PM
I didn't mean that.  That's what wishes are for and I'm glad that HTC listened.  Actually the more airplanes and vehicles we have to choose from the better.  It's only that due to the shear number of requests for that particular airplane, I thought we would see more of them.

100 perks for a single plane makes people seriously think about upping one. This high cost also kinda "forces" them into a very high altitude mission profile, which really takes a lot of time, so that further reduces usage.
Keep in mind, most bomber action in the MA is of tactical nature (killing town for capture, sinking CV, killing a base) and not strategic. And for that the B-29 doesn't really offer that much more over the conventional, free rides. It's strengths are for long-range strat runs (which happen rarely anyway) and as the ultimate tool for boosting bomber score.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Hap on February 26, 2011, 07:43:09 PM
Over the years I've seen a ton of post wishing for the B-29. Well, the wishes have been granted.
Sure haven't seen much of them though.   Just saying.

you in wrong spot.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Dadsguns on February 26, 2011, 07:49:56 PM
There was a 29 mission today with at least 5 sets, and they brought it in around 15k, what a blast it was, I believe the Jokers posted that one and it was awesome to see someone actually fight using them instead of avoiding combat with them. wtg!!.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Ripsnort on February 26, 2011, 08:16:25 PM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll202/AWhetstone99/atmosphere.gif)

I found them!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: 1Boner on February 26, 2011, 10:04:40 PM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll202/AWhetstone99/atmosphere.gif)

I found them!

Can you expand the map a little so we can see the rooks? :bolt:
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Spikes on February 26, 2011, 10:06:15 PM
Crashing into mountains trying to get off the ground.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Tupac on February 26, 2011, 10:57:47 PM
Can you expand the map a little so we can see the rooks? :bolt:

The moon doesn't have an atmosphere.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: MachFly on February 26, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
Can you expand the map a little so we can see the rooks? :bolt:
:rofl
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: 321BAR on February 26, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
Can you expand the map a little so we can see the rooks? :bolt:
The moon doesn't have an atmosphere.
:rofl
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2011, 12:46:48 AM
Curious as I am, I took a look at the "landed damage in a XXX" messages tonight. Of course the results are not representative, because for example the majority Lancasters are being shot down while I suppose the majority of B-29 sorties do get home and get a "landed damage" broadcast.
But interesting nonetheless:

In ~7 hours in LWO, we had 158 level bomber landed damage messages:

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5886/clipboard01bt.jpg)


 :banana:
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: mipoikel on February 28, 2011, 05:38:05 AM
Curious as I am, I took a look at the "landed damage in a XXX" messages tonight. Of course the results are not representative, because for example the majority Lancasters are being shot down while I suppose the majority of B-29 sorties do get home and get a "landed damage" broadcast.
But interesting nonetheless:

In ~7 hours in LWO, we had 158 level bomber landed damage messages:

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5886/clipboard01bt.jpg)


 :banana:


But where is Betty?  :angel:
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2011, 05:57:49 AM
But where is Betty?  :angel:


Ooops... how could I forget about the Betty?  Add 3 "landed" messages for the flaming lady

(And yes, there hadn't been any Ju-88 successfully landing any damage)
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Bronk on February 28, 2011, 06:43:42 AM
Can you expand the map a little so we can see the rooks? :bolt:
Heh.... and on that note if you expand it to encompass the moon's orbit... you'll find chalenge in co-orbit with it.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: chris3 on February 28, 2011, 07:00:42 AM

Ooops... how could I forget about the Betty?  Add 3 "landed" messages for the flaming lady

(And yes, there hadn't been any Ju-88 successfully landing any damage)

because i wasn t online ;-)

cu christian
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: KayBayRay on February 28, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
Hey Badhorse <S>  :cool:

I will tell you why I think you dont see many of them.

When I first realized that the B-29 was available I was very excited. Even with the perk points to fly I was still excited because the Actual B-29 we a very formidable weapons platform with a huge bomb load capacity. Then I went to the Training Arena and jumped in one for a test ride. Took all of the runway even with 50% fuel but I expected that as I had 40 500lb bombs on board and its a big bird. So I get airborne grab a few K alt and am cruisin through all the gages and controls. Still very excited at this point.

Then I start checking out the guns... WHAMMY... wtf!! Where the heck are half the guns? Like the huge mutli-gun turrets on both the top and bottom of the AC? Where are they? I start looking around and all I can find are Nose (with only high angle coverage), Tail (wilh almost no visibility whatsoever) Right and Left (with extremely little coverage any were but level ). And I immediatly realise this thing is a a Laviathon PIG with no guns to defend itself. The gun coverage is even worse that a Lanc. At least on a Lanc I can see something in my gun sights.

So I figure there must be some info on AH page somewhere telling me about where all these other turrets are and how to access them. Spend about 20 fruitless minutes and find Zip about them. At this point I am very dissatisfied about the B-29 regadless of Perk cost. As far as I can see I wont be flying this thing in any arena other than Special Events. Which I did fly a few times when it came out and the gun coverage really isnt there at all.

So now I am wondering what was High Tech thinking when they put this thing out into the game? I have to say I am really dissappointed in High Tech for this.

So if there is any access to the 4 other turrets that as far as I have found are not available I would really like to know how to man them. Cause I refuse to take a 300 Perk point BLIMP into the MA. I consider myself pretty good with Buffs. I can give you guys that really know how to take them down a decent fight most of the time. But not with this thing. This thing couldnt fight its way out of a wet napkin IMHO.

So this is why I think you dont see many because I dont think many others differ much from my impression of this bird at this point. I sure hope High Tech corrects this and installs these other guns and repairs the visiblity issues with them. Once that happens... then I will go at it with you guys in this bird.

Later,
KayBay  :cool:
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Banshee7 on February 28, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
Considering that I never get to play for more than a month at a time, and during that month I rarely fly bombers, you will probably never see me in a B-29 due to the lack of perks.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2011, 02:22:48 PM
So if there is any access to the 4 other turrets that as far as I have found are not available I would really like to know how to man them.

You are not serious....

But in case you are: You "man" them exact the same way the real gunners did: They are remote turrets. You are using the nose/top/tail/sides gun directors and whatever turret has an arc your target, will fire. Hop into any station, go external (f3) and watch your gunfire...
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Imowface on February 28, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
Darn lusche you beat me too it  :(
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: caldera on February 28, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
Heh.... and on that note if you expand it to encompass the moon's orbit... you'll find chalenge in co-orbit with it.


(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/chalenge.png)
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: JUGgler on February 28, 2011, 02:26:56 PM
For an additional 50 perks per plane maybe allow bombers to "airspawn" no closer than 2 full sectors of enemy base!
 50 perks per plane for 10K alt, 150 perks for 1 bomber to spawn at 30K!

Just a thought!

JUGgler
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: 1Boner on February 28, 2011, 02:40:24 PM
I was looking forward to flying the 29 when I heard it was coming out.

Then I read about the amount of time I would have to spend to get to a "safe" alt.

Then I read that even if I want to waste all that time climbing, if someone looks at the 29 wrong it will burst into flames.

No thanks.

I think HTC did a great job in responding to the players wishes for this plane.

Buts it NOT the game changing juggernaut it was made out to be, but sure is perked like it was.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2011, 02:41:18 PM
Then I read that even if I want to waste all that time climbing, if someone looks at the 29 wrong it will burst into flames.

And did you also read that this was corrected? ;)
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: 1Boner on February 28, 2011, 02:44:18 PM
From what I've read, the 29s still don't take much at all to set ablaze.

Am I remembering wrong, or can small arms fire still torch one.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Lusche on February 28, 2011, 02:47:11 PM
From what I've read, the 29s still don't take much at all to set ablaze.

Am I remembering wrong, or can small arms fire still torch one.

They are now more or less in the same class as other heavies. After all, the B-17 and lancaster can be killed by .303's too... it's just not that easy :)
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: 68ZooM on February 28, 2011, 02:48:22 PM

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/chalenge.png)

BAhahahahaha
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: ToeTag on February 28, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
It's big, buggy and way over priced.  Its like a 200 foot long 262 thats easy to catch and kill.

Enough said?  :ahand
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Beefcake on February 28, 2011, 02:51:39 PM
Last night I ate quite a few 30mm rounds from a Me163 but my plane held up, although I'd taken some damage. The B29 will still get a fire every so often but IMO it takes a lot more damage than it used to.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Bino on February 28, 2011, 02:55:46 PM
There was a 29 mission today with at least 5 sets, and they brought it in around 15k, what a blast it was, I believe the Jokers posted that one and it was awesome to see someone actually fight using them instead of avoiding combat with them. wtg!!.

Were they escorted by a gaggle of 262s?  I think I may have been part of the defense on that one.  Fun!
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: bangsbox on February 28, 2011, 02:59:39 PM
Lusche... are all buff modeled so you can kills them with a burst to cockpit like fighters?
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: Kazaa on February 28, 2011, 03:08:49 PM
Lusche... are all buff modeled so you can kills them with a burst to cockpit like fighters?

Yes.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: ROX on February 28, 2011, 03:32:18 PM
Not hard at all to figure out where buff formations are upping from.

Same way you could figure it out in Air Warrior as well.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: SEraider on February 28, 2011, 04:35:49 PM
Can I have my Nook now?  :devil
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: SIK1 on February 28, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
Hey Badhorse <S>  :cool:

I will tell you why I think you dont see many of them.

When I first realized that the B-29 was available I was very excited. Even with the perk points to fly I was still excited because the Actual B-29 we a very formidable weapons platform with a huge bomb load capacity. Then I went to the Training Arena and jumped in one for a test ride. Took all of the runway even with 50% fuel but I expected that as I had 40 500lb bombs on board and its a big bird. So I get airborne grab a few K alt and am cruisin through all the gages and controls. Still very excited at this point.

Then I start checking out the guns... WHAMMY... wtf!! Where the heck are half the guns? Like the huge mutli-gun turrets on both the top and bottom of the AC? Where are they? I start looking around and all I can find are Nose (with only high angle coverage), Tail (wilh almost no visibility whatsoever) Right and Left (with extremely little coverage any were but level ). And I immediatly realise this thing is a a Laviathon PIG with no guns to defend itself. The gun coverage is even worse that a Lanc. At least on a Lanc I can see something in my gun sights.

So I figure there must be some info on AH page somewhere telling me about where all these other turrets are and how to access them. Spend about 20 fruitless minutes and find Zip about them. At this point I am very dissatisfied about the B-29 regadless of Perk cost. As far as I can see I wont be flying this thing in any arena other than Special Events. Which I did fly a few times when it came out and the gun coverage really isnt there at all.

So now I am wondering what was High Tech thinking when they put this thing out into the game? I have to say I am really dissappointed in High Tech for this.

So if there is any access to the 4 other turrets that as far as I have found are not available I would really like to know how to man them. Cause I refuse to take a 300 Perk point BLIMP into the MA. I consider myself pretty good with Buffs. I can give you guys that really know how to take them down a decent fight most of the time. But not with this thing. This thing couldnt fight its way out of a wet napkin IMHO.

So this is why I think you dont see many because I dont think many others differ much from my impression of this bird at this point. I sure hope High Tech corrects this and installs these other guns and repairs the visiblity issues with them. Once that happens... then I will go at it with you guys in this bird.

Later,
KayBay  :cool:


Hmmm, I was able to get one up from a 5k base 100% fuel 8k lbs. ord. I thought the guns were pretty good I was able to light up several fighters before they could light me up.  And the thing is fast.
I was also able to land one dead stick after running out of fuel and gliding three sectors. that was fun. :D 
Of course I don't normally drive buff's, so what do I know.
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: BGB the 3RD on March 01, 2011, 12:15:16 AM
Kaybay..your very misinformed. Read about the b29 in real life.
HTC has done a very good job. I have crawled through every space on fi-fi, the last fliyin b-29...the ah modeling is excellent.   When I sat in the tail gunners seat its cramped and visual not so hot.

Sheite load of lead gets flung from all the guns ....sweeeet
Title: Re: Where are the B-29s?
Post by: 7super61 on March 04, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll202/AWhetstone99/atmosphere.gif)

I found them!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl hahahahaha thats just where i found them too! :banana: