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Title: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Flench on March 01, 2011, 12:02:56 PM
All right !!!! The show's just came on and I have never seen it . What about you guy's ? Got it on record now cool................
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Blooz on March 01, 2011, 12:13:22 PM
Youtube
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: moot on March 01, 2011, 12:29:39 PM
Lots of eye candy but... You're probably better off watching AH-made dogfight films.  Not as much post production or historical glamor, but much better dogfighting substance.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Strip on March 01, 2011, 12:52:57 PM
Lots of eye candy but... You're probably better off watching AH-made dogfight films.  Not as much post production or historical glamor, but much better dogfighting substance.

X2

Strip
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: hyzer on March 01, 2011, 02:32:01 PM
It follows the stretch it formula.  They tell you what they are going to show you.  Show some pilot stuff,  break to commercial.  Once back from commercial recap everything up to this point.  I like the interviews with the pilots the best.  The only way to watch it is on a DVR.

Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: phatzo on March 01, 2011, 02:43:52 PM
It follows the stretch it formula. 
Which makes it a program I should like annoying.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2011, 04:00:20 PM
The good guy is here
The bad guy is there
If the good guy goes over there
    the bad guy will go there
but the good guy knows he need to go here
so he goes there
the bad guy now ends up over there

<commercial>

repeat the above and add two more sentences before next comersial
the good guy knows that if the bad guy shoots him it will be bad
the bad guy does not want to get shot by the good guy

<commercial>

repeat the above
pilot talks

<commercial>

repeat the above

<join us next time>

 :D
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: PFactorDave on March 01, 2011, 04:09:28 PM
I like the interviews with the pilots the best. 

Absolutely the best part.  +1

I'm glad that the interviews have been done, even if the rest of the show is kind of crappy.  The guys that lived what we like to play at are slipping away from us quickly.  The more of their stories that get recorded the better.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Flench on March 01, 2011, 05:53:34 PM
Well , it wouldt have been so bad if is was not for all the commercial . Over half the show ...

Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Banshee7 on March 01, 2011, 05:54:37 PM
I thought they cancelled that show?  Or was it a re-run
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Maverick on March 01, 2011, 09:19:54 PM
It's been on reruns for some time. It was canceled.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: gyrene81 on March 01, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
It's been on reruns for some time. It was canceled.
yeah, not enough fodder to stretch the truth for them...i mean, you wouldn't want to do any on pilots from other countries that were involved, that would be heresy.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: bozon on March 02, 2011, 04:50:13 AM
yeah, not enough fodder to stretch the truth for them...i mean, you wouldn't want to do any on pilots from other countries that were involved, that would be heresy.
They even found an American pilot who flew mosquito for the RAF. The only non-american pilots I remember on that show were Israeli in two episodes about the IAF.

...
the good guy knows that if the bad guy shoots him it will be bad
the bad guy does not want to get shot by the good guy
The good guy thinks that shooting people is bad unless they are bad and he has a good justification. The bad guy takes a bad aim which is foiled by good evasive of the good guy. The tables have turned. Good guy being such a badass pilot he now saddles up on the bad guy. Being good he takes a good aim while the bad guy being bad, makes bad evasive. Good hits are observed on the bad guy's plane which is bad news for him. Good riddance.

goodbye.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: mbailey on March 02, 2011, 05:44:57 AM
The History channel cancelled it because it was about history. It had nothing to do with cutting down trees,selling stuff at a pawn shop, or picking thru someones barn.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: rpm on March 02, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
Personally, I love the show. Where else would you see these historical fights acted out and diagrammed? Yeah, the formula gets old, but the engagements are always different. I'd loved to have seen another season or two.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 02, 2011, 08:02:41 AM
Ahhh that show with all the guys that HOed and lived to tell about it. LOL

Yea, "good guy here bad guy there" etc. too
Wont become legitimate show for me till they start telling stories of the opposing sides victories as well. Some of those pilots were pretty fair pilots as well.

Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Flench on March 02, 2011, 10:08:34 AM
The History channel cancelled it because it was about history. It had nothing to do with cutting down trees,selling stuff at a pawn shop, or picking thru someones barn.   :rolleyes:
HAHAHAHAHAHA Good one !!!
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Banshee7 on March 02, 2011, 10:19:06 AM
The History channel cancelled it because it was about history. It had nothing to do with cutting down trees,selling stuff at a pawn shop, or picking thru someones barn.   :rolleyes:

Granted that I love Ax Men, Pawn Stars, and American Pickers, Dogfights was my favorite show on that channel.  I knew it had been cancelled, I didn't know if they had brought it back or not.  I'm never lucky enought to catch any of the good re-runs that include actual dogfights and not missile engagements  :airplane:
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Flench on March 02, 2011, 10:21:26 AM
The History channel cancelled it because it was about history. It had nothing to do with cutting down trees,selling stuff at a pawn shop, or picking thru someones barn.   :rolleyes:
And you mean selling stolen stuff at the pawn shop , hahahahahahaha J/K , dam pawn shop's hatemmm
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Devil 505 on March 02, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
The History channel cancelled it because it was about history. It had nothing to do with cutting down trees,selling stuff at a pawn shop, or picking thru someones barn.   :rolleyes:

You forgot "ancient prophecy" and "future global disaster"
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: moot on March 02, 2011, 12:37:25 PM
Moral of the story: if you're making a TV show about dogfights, hire a group of furballers from Aces High to edit your scripts.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Maverick on March 02, 2011, 02:11:20 PM
Moral of the story: if you're making a TV show about dogfights, hire a group of furballers from Aces High to edit your scripts.

Yep no shortage of gen-u-whine experts in air to air combat there in the game. What could those real vets have to say about it that the AH keyboard experts don't know and could do better.
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: moot on March 02, 2011, 02:23:18 PM
It was partly tongue in cheek.  And partly not: dogfight episodes pump those actual vets for photogenic substance and then spread that substance so thinly over the TV timeslot that it's nothing like reality, or nothing entertaining.  Like it or not, there's more dogfighting substance to the best AH dogfights than any single History Channel Dogfights episode.
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AH keyboard experts
strawman

Put another way: AH furballers would probably grovel at "real vets"' feet, and you'd get a much better TV program once the chief editor cropped down AH furballers' interaction with those vets down to the essentials.  Why?  Because the current "Dogfights" editors are about as cheap as the rest of History Channel's programming.  More filler than substance.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Maverick on March 02, 2011, 03:43:33 PM
I now it was tongue in cheek and I was agreeing with your earlier comment. As far as the keyboard experts and game players are concerned I still think I was spot on.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Tac on March 02, 2011, 04:59:19 PM
The only episode of Dogfights I ever saw was the one of the LW offensive on new years day.. I forget the name of the battle but it was fought mainly over an area that had gigantic pyramid-like 'hills' that were really refuse heaps.

The narrative of that episode and the re-enactment via CGI was amazing.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: moot on March 02, 2011, 05:17:52 PM
My bad Mav.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: phatzo on March 02, 2011, 09:39:09 PM
One of you guys thats good with film making should film a duel in the DA then interview the pilots. Aces High episode of dogfights. We could start with Tyrannis v AKAK.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: rpm on March 02, 2011, 11:56:40 PM
One of you guys thats good with film making should film a duel in the DA then interview the pilots. Aces High episode of dogfights. We could start with Tyrannis v AKAK.
Ya know that might not be such a bad idea.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Masherbrum on March 03, 2011, 12:04:35 AM
The good guy is here
The bad guy is there
If the good guy goes over there
    the bad guy will go there
but the good guy knows he need to go here
so he goes there
the bad guy now ends up over there

<commercial>

repeat the above and add two more sentences before next comersial
the good guy knows that if the bad guy shoots him it will be bad
the bad guy does not want to get shot by the good guy

<commercial>

repeat the above
pilot talks

<commercial>

repeat the above

<join us next time>

 :D

 :rofl :rofl   :aok
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: boxboy28 on March 03, 2011, 12:06:41 AM
not too many of them (american) guys like to tell there stories.....

ild like to see them do it from all different prespectives....  dont just tell about the American glory story!  
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Shifty on March 03, 2011, 05:08:35 AM
The History channel cancelled it because it was about history. It had nothing to do with cutting down trees,selling stuff at a pawn shop, or picking thru someones barn.   :rolleyes:

 :lol
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Anaxogoras on March 03, 2011, 08:29:25 AM
The good guy is here
The bad guy is there
If the good guy goes over there
    the bad guy will go there
but the good guy knows he need to go here
so he goes there
the bad guy now ends up over there

<commercial>

repeat the above and add two more sentences before next comersial
the good guy knows that if the bad guy shoots him it will be bad
the bad guy does not want to get shot by the good guy

<commercial>

repeat the above
pilot talks

<commercial>

repeat the above

<join us next time>

 :D


^^ :lol  Nailed it.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Flench on March 03, 2011, 10:15:19 AM
not too many of them (american) guys like to tell there stories.....

ild like to see them do it from all different prespectives....  dont just tell about the American glory story! 
Yeah but the other guy is dead ...in most case's .
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Anaxogoras on March 03, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
Yeah but the other guy is dead ...in most case's .

Gunther Rall was alive while the show aired.  Let's face it, Dogfights' almost exclusive focus on American pilots reflected a belief that the audience was narrow minded and stupid.  I'm glad it was canceled.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: moot on March 03, 2011, 10:30:09 AM
Or maybe Rall wasn't satisfied with the show/channel's offer? 
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: dedalos on March 03, 2011, 10:36:13 AM
Don't forget that most fights where hit and runs in real life.  Especially for the Germans late in the war trying to take down buffs.  They were not there for the fight you know  :lol.  There isn't a lot to tell in most cases.  It would be very hard to find an actual dog fight with a pilot that is now alive to give the interview.
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: Anaxogoras on March 03, 2011, 11:01:55 AM
Sure, but they also did a few episodes about WW1 dogfights, and no one was alive from that era.  IIRC, one was about the death of Werner Voss (bad guy loses), and the other about Guynemer and Udet (bad guy could have lost).
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: fbEagle on March 03, 2011, 04:13:01 PM
its on quite alot its one of my favorite shows!
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: crazyivan on March 03, 2011, 04:42:44 PM
Well , it wouldt have been so bad if is was not for all the commercial . Over half the show ...


Good time for an aces high commercial. :neener:
Title: Re: Dogfights show on the history channel .
Post by: crazyivan on March 03, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
You forgot "ancient prophecy" and "future global disaster"
I liked life after people. 1 week after people, the Queen of England, dogs/pissy beds are still alive. :rolleyes: