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Title: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: 321BAR on March 02, 2011, 01:18:27 AM
Since i asked for the M-18 HELLCAT :x


NOT the M-18 smoke grenade :furious you know who you are
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 02, 2011, 01:42:50 AM
I'm confused, you mean the M-18?
(http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/wp-content/uploads/m18l022.jpg)

or the Hellcat?

(http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/F6F_warbirds_tw.jpg)

We already have one, and the other doesn't really have a place here...
 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: MachFly on March 02, 2011, 03:03:12 AM
I'm confused, you mean the M-18?
(http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/wp-content/uploads/m18l022.jpg)

or the Hellcat?

(http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/F6F_warbirds_tw.jpg)

We already have one, and the other doesn't really have a place here...
 :headscratch:


 :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: Chalenge on March 02, 2011, 03:29:22 AM
A 60mph tank that can kill Panthers wholesale?

+1
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Post by: MachFly on March 02, 2011, 03:32:03 AM
+1
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Post by: Bronk on March 02, 2011, 08:22:04 AM
A 60mph tank destroyer that can kill Panthers wholesale?

+1
Fixed
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Post by: Dichotomy on March 02, 2011, 08:28:37 AM
 :furious ABOUT TIME BAR!!!

+1
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Post by: Krusty on March 02, 2011, 08:48:10 AM
Thing about tank destroyers is they had 1/2 inch armor around most of it. They only kept small arms fire from killing the troops inside it. A .50cal would make swiss cheese of it.

Considering the whines we get now about "My TIGR died in 1 hit!!!!!" imagine the complaints of M-18 drivers...

"I never even got to the fight! I got vulched by a P-40B!! 10 times!"
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 02, 2011, 02:10:24 PM
Thing about tank destroyers is they had 1/2 inch armor around most of it. They only kept small arms fire from killing the troops inside it. A .50cal would make swiss cheese of it.

Considering the whines we get now about "My TIGR died in 1 hit!!!!!" imagine the complaints of M-18 drivers...

"I never even got to the fight! I got vulched by a P-40B!! 10 times!"


Think of it as an M-8 with a 76mm gun.

 :O


wrongway
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Chalenge on March 02, 2011, 06:49:15 PM
Thing about tank destroyers is they had 1/2 inch armor around most of it. They only kept small arms fire from killing the troops inside it. A .50cal would make swiss cheese of it...

And how much armor do the M3s that ricochet my Tiger rounds have?
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Tyrannis on March 02, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
Thing about tank destroyers is they had 1/2 inch armor around most of it. They only kept small arms fire from killing the troops inside it. A .50cal would make swiss cheese of it.

Considering the whines we get now about "My TIGR died in 1 hit!!!!!" imagine the complaints of M-18 drivers...

"I never even got to the fight! I got vulched by a P-40B!! 10 times!"
so pretty much you could nock out the m18's gun by simply strafing the open turret and killing the crewmembers inside?

this makes me wonder, if you had your m18's gun nocked out like that, would vehicle supplies restore it? or would you need to deliver troops to the m18 to act as new crewmembers?
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Post by: jolly22 on March 02, 2011, 08:12:19 PM
A what? Never heard of the M18.  :D
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Post by: AceHavok on March 02, 2011, 09:02:55 PM
We'll we got to B-29, Anything is really possible at this point.  :rofl  :x +1 for the M-18!!!  :x :x
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Post by: Volron on March 03, 2011, 10:31:06 AM
Since I REALLY want the He-111! :x

Fixed. :D

+1 regardless. :cheers:
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Post by: bangsbox on March 03, 2011, 12:12:20 PM
And how much armor do the M3s that ricochet my Tiger rounds have?

i have had that happen to me as well or the round just passes right through...you have to switch to HE round they never live through it
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Tyrannis on March 03, 2011, 02:13:29 PM
if it means anything to ya bar. WoT is going to be adding the m18 to there game when it goes live.

along with the m10 and m36.
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Post by: olds442 on March 03, 2011, 03:14:24 PM
i want the he177 THE M18 IS JUST A A6M ON WHEELS
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Post by: Reaper90 on March 03, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Sorry BAR, but I say "heck with the M-18, give is the M26 Pershing!"

(http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/pershing.jpg)
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Post by: fullmetalbullet on March 03, 2011, 07:31:49 PM
Sorry BAR, but I say "heck with the M-18, give is the M26 Pershing!"

(http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/pershing.jpg)

thats a korean paint scheme on that pershing. hmm anymore F-86 wishes?
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Post by: Tyrannis on March 03, 2011, 07:40:49 PM
Sorry BAR, but I say "heck with the M-18, give is the M26 Pershing!"

(http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/pershing.jpg)
i stood next to that pershing when i went to the patton muesum. i thought the t34 kills on the turret were cool.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Belial on March 03, 2011, 08:18:58 PM
M18 Fo Lyfe
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: skorpion on March 03, 2011, 08:30:16 PM
pfft you people have no idea on what a good tank is.

i say the M1A1 Abrams tank!!!!!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/800px-M1A1_firing_main_gun_3.jpg)

well, its not WW2 but it definately is the spawn of the M60 which was the spawn of the Sherman...
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Tyrannis on March 03, 2011, 09:07:02 PM
pfft you people have no idea on what a good tank is.

i say the M1A1 Abrams tank!!!!!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/800px-M1A1_firing_main_gun_3.jpg)

well, its not WW2 but it definately is the spawn of the M60 which was the spawn of the Sherman...
the m60 does not come from the sherman. its roots lie with the m26 pershing and m48. someone needs to do more research.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Reaper90 on March 03, 2011, 10:23:49 PM
thats a korean paint scheme on that pershing.

And your point is?

M26 fits all the criteria for inclusion into AH as far as I can tell. The fact that the one I posted the pic of has a Korean War paint scheme is irrelevant.

If I had asked for that skin to be included you would have a point. But you don't.

FAIL.

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hmm anymore F-86 wishes?

<----- has never asked for F-86 or a Korean War arena, and likely would never go there if they created one.

FAIL.
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Post by: fullmetalbullet on March 03, 2011, 10:45:14 PM
And your point is?

M26 fits all the criteria for inclusion into AH as far as I can tell. The fact that the one I posted the pic of has a Korean War paint scheme is irrelevant.

If I had asked for that skin to be included you would have a point. But you don't.

FAIL.

<----- has never asked for F-86 or a Korean War arena, and likely would never go there if they created one.

FAIL.


i know it fits all criterias. but how long has the pershing seen combat in WW2? and i believe only 2 were knocked out in WW2. (correct me if im wrong) one was knocked out by a nashorn at point blank range.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Reaper90 on March 03, 2011, 11:00:04 PM

i know it fits all criterias. but how long has the pershing seen combat in WW2?

It's been a few months since I did much reading on the combat record of the M26, I'll have to refresh. I know I read about multiple engagements between US armour elements (that included both Shermans and Pershings) and German armour. It was definitely late in the war, but they saw as much or more combat as some aircraft that have been added to this game.

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and i believe only 2 were knocked out in WW2. (correct me if im wrong) one was knocked out by a nashorn at point blank range.

I wasn't aware that the number of vehicles/aircraft lost was a qualifier for inclusion in Aces High.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 03, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
I say for gv's, just I do for the aircraft, to fill in the gaps.

The M26 fills no gaps, and would see (almost) no use in scenarios.  Now the M18, M10 (already have the chassis), variants of the M3 (needs a remodel, but we already have the chassis), variants of the 251 (already have the chassis), Panzer Mk III "J" (already have the chassis), T70, KV1, Churchill, Cromwell, etc etc., those all could provde scenario fodder and many of them could fill gaps in the AH gv set.    
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Tyrannis on March 03, 2011, 11:19:28 PM
I say for gv's, just I do for the aircraft, to fill in the gaps.

The M26 fills no gaps, and would see (almost) no use in scenarios.  Now the M18, M10 (already have the chassis), variants of the M3 (needs a remodel, but we already have the chassis), variants of the 251 (already have the chassis), Panzer Mk III "J" (already have the chassis), T70, KV1, Churchill, Cromwell, etc etc., those all could provde scenario fodder and many of them could fill gaps in the AH gv set.    
adding the m26 would atleast give the american tankers a better tiger fighting tank. the russians have there t34-85 to fight tigers with. we need the m26 to give us a shot.


personally, i want the m3 lee added. and the 105mm sherman. the sherman would be easy. just add it onto the m4(75) as the 105mm gun option then boom. done.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: fullmetalbullet on March 03, 2011, 11:22:15 PM
adding the m26 would atleast give the american tankers a better tiger fighting tank. the russians have there t34-85 to fight tigers with. we need the m26 to give us a shot.


personally, i want the m3 lee added. and the 105mm sherman. the sherman would be easy. just add it onto the m4(75) as the 105mm gun option then boom. done.

The M36 Slugger would be much better suited, then the M26. IMHO. we do need more british vehicles, I say the Cromwell should be added.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: 321BAR on March 04, 2011, 12:23:45 AM
I say for gv's, just I do for the aircraft, to fill in the gaps.

The M26 fills no gaps, and would see (almost) no use in scenarios.  Now the M18, M10 (already have the chassis), variants of the M3 (needs a remodel, but we already have the chassis), variants of the 251 (already have the chassis), Panzer Mk III "J" (already have the chassis), T70, KV1, Churchill, Cromwell, etc etc., those all could provde scenario fodder and many of them could fill gaps in the AH gv set.    
Pnzr III and IVs are different chassis <S>
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: waystin2 on March 04, 2011, 03:51:52 AM
+1  Hey Bar how about a two-fer one?  Yak-3 for M-18 air support? :D
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 04, 2011, 08:26:27 AM
Pnzr III and IVs are different chassis <S>

Hmm.... I was under the impression that the Wirby and Osty were based on the Pzr Mk III
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: fullmetalbullet on March 04, 2011, 12:50:58 PM
Hmm.... I was under the impression that the Wirby and Osty were based on the Pzr Mk III

nope. they were both based on the PzKw Mk.4.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: skorpion on March 04, 2011, 10:27:07 PM
the m60 does not come from the sherman. its roots lie with the m26 pershing and m48. someone needs to do more research.

[/hijack]someone needs to stop trolling [/hijack]

anyways...why not the StuG III? i think that would be better than anything that has an M-18 in it...
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: Tyrannis on March 04, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
[/hijack]someone needs to stop trolling [/hijack]

anyways...why not the StuG III? i think that would be better than anything that has an M-18 in it...
...you cry WAY to much about trolling whenever you get proven wrong skorpion  :rolleyes:

stugIII couldnt be in this game for one reason: its a TD without a turret. therefore to aim you'd have to reverse tracks (could someone tell me what the official name for this is called? i forget) but tanks in AH can do this. so it would be pretty hard to aim with the stug. (if someone was firing at you from the side, you'd have to jump in the drivers seat, start moving. turn the whole tank towards the target. THEN take aim, and usually by the time you do all this you'll allready be dead).

the M18 would be better (this is just what i think) because it has an actual turret.
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: skorpion on March 04, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
...I cry WAY to much about trolling :ahand

stugIII couldnt be in this game for one reason: its a TD without a turret. therefore to aim you'd have to reverse tracks (could someone tell me what the official name for this is called? i forget) but tanks in AH can do this. so it would be pretty hard to aim with the stug. (if someone was firing at you from the side, you'd have to jump in the drivers seat, start moving. turn the whole tank towards the target. THEN take aim, and usually by the time you do all this you'll allready be dead).

the M18 would be better (this is just what i think) because it has an actual turret.

a tank destroyer doesnt need a turret to be in the game, it never said anywhere on this website that it needed to have a turret to be in the game. i think YOU need to do a bit more research. it has a 20degree rotation in both ways. if you just keep the engine on you could turn the tank at your enemy and blast em out of the water. The stug at least has more armor than an m18 and it wont be cut to peices by 50 cals as krusty said.
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Post by: Tyrannis on March 04, 2011, 11:25:21 PM
a tank destroyer doesnt need a turret to be in the game, it never said anywhere on this website that it needed to have a turret to be in the game. i think YOU need to do a bit more research. it has a 20degree rotation in both ways. if you just keep the engine on you could turn the tank at your enemy and blast em out of the water. The stug at least has more armor than an m18 and it wont be cut to peices by 50 cals as krusty said.
again, the main point seems to have soared over your 14yr old head.

no tank in AH can rotate on its treads.that function hasent been put ingame. so to add the stugIII without giving it the ability to rotate would be putting it at a huge disadvantage.

here, i'll be your tank teacher for tonight and give you a project.


spawn in the panzer.
go into battle.
DO NOT turn the turret sideways. you can turn it up&down but not at all side2side.
try to aim at tanks that are firing at you by having to turn the whole tank in there direction before you get a shot. (you'd have to ether accelerate forward or backwards to do this, since we dont have tank rotation).
then come back in here tomarrow and post your results as filmd&screenshots.


if AH added tank rotation. then sure. the stugIII would be good. so would the Hetzer. but until then i believe the m18 would be better to add then the stugIII because of its revolving turret.


skorpion, this is just my OPINION. you seem to be taking everything i say as a personal attack on you. thats why you cry so much about "being trolled"
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: skorpion on March 05, 2011, 09:24:03 AM
again, the main point seems to have soared over your 14yr old head.

no tank in AH can rotate on its treads.that function hasent been put ingame. so to add the stugIII without giving it the ability to rotate would be putting it at a huge disadvantage.

here, i'll be your tank teacher for tonight and give you a project.


spawn in the panzer.
go into battle.
DO NOT turn the turret sideways. you can turn it up&down but not at all side2side.
try to aim at tanks that are firing at you by having to turn the whole tank in there direction before you get a shot. (you'd have to ether accelerate forward or backwards to do this, since we dont have tank rotation).
then come back in here tomarrow and post your results as filmd&screenshots.


if AH added tank rotation. then sure. the stugIII would be good. so would the Hetzer. but until then i believe the m18 would be better to add then the stugIII because of its revolving turret.


skorpion, this is just my OPINION. you seem to be taking everything i say as a personal attack on you. thats why you cry so much about "being trolled"

when i asked for this i meant for the tank rotation to be included...how else would we do it? i mean duh its gonna be included or else is just a stationary gun. might as well get a mobile 17 pounder from the fields if HTC doesnt include the tank rotations :rolleyes:
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Post by: Tyrannis on March 05, 2011, 10:07:22 AM
when i asked for this i meant for the tank rotation to be included...how else would we do it? i mean duh its gonna be included or else is just a stationary gun. might as well get a mobile 17 pounder from the fields if HTC doesnt include the tank rotations :rolleyes:
sure you did.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: B4Buster on March 05, 2011, 10:23:35 AM
-1 to piss BAR off.
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Post by: skorpion on March 05, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
-1 to piss BAR off.

:lol i dont think that pisses him off. maybe sayin "HELLZ NO! -1!!"
Title: Re: Has it been long? i lost track...
Post by: 321BAR on March 05, 2011, 11:11:37 PM
-1 to piss BAR off.
:( :cry
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Post by: skorpion on March 06, 2011, 10:38:38 AM
:( :cry

want a cookie to cheer you up?
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Post by: Reaper90 on March 06, 2011, 01:09:49 PM
again, the main point seems to have soared over your 14yr old head.

That's rich!  :rofl
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Post by: Skyguns MKII on March 07, 2011, 02:35:49 AM
+1
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Post by: L0nGb0w on March 07, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
-1 smoke grenades would serve no purpose  :)