Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: JUGgler on March 02, 2011, 01:07:33 PM
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I'd like to see a fundamental shift in how HTC provides new vehicles.I actually hijacked another thread with this so now it is here.
HTC should make a "base inventory list" of vehicles that includes early, mid and late war types. This inventory would be the "basic" enrollment list for $15.00 per month. then a list of new, rare, and uber rides to be purchased for a one time payment of $1 - $5 to have one vehicle added to your clipboard.
Being a business owner myself I think this would incentivise the company to add more vehicles and upgrades at a more frequent rate than is experienced now.
I have seen a few peeps on the BBs make statements about the current client #s of AH being stagnent, yet consistent at 3500- 4000 folks. I actually have no idea what the #s are But my feeling is as far as the "MMO" part of AH it doesn't seem to be growing. Again I have nothing to back this statement up.
But, my experience with "incentives" for companies and employees pays off BIG in performance and timeliness.
I would like to see more stuff from HTC but I also think it is more than fair to motivate them by the 1 thing that will, $
JUGgler
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I believe I would find this system very frustrating, and ultimately only hurt the bottom dollar of HTC.
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I'd stop p(l)aying as I'm sure many others would....
-1x10^E
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Honestly, what is wrong with a 1 time payment of a couple bucks to get more of what you want?
JUGgler
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Honestly, what is wrong with a 1 time payment of a couple bucks to get more of what you want?
JUGgler
The fact that I already have them now?
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free is always better.
semp
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It's just not a attractive formula with most people, from everything I've seen. Being one of those people who are turned off by it, I'll say: I'd rather pay more per month than some per vehicle/skin/whatever microtransaction formula. Unless the model/skin/etc price was negligible... But really this is just another manifestation of the same thing: I'd rather pay the one total price monthly than have all sorts of items adding up to that same price.
What can you do to change this (probably irrational) preference? If nothing, then you might as well deal with it: stick to single monthly payments.
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:bhead Aggggh Juggler. No. -1
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IMO they should focus on advertising before every even considering your idea :)
99.9718% of people have never heard of Aces High 2
Do more commercials on history and military channel.
Also everything else in this economy is going up why not bump subscription prices to 19.95$
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DLC might be barely tolerable for stand-alone software you buy once. For subscription service? Forget it.
It will anger, alienate, and piss off most of your subscribers. The subscription fee itself dictates your payment for access to the game. Not some variable based on an arbitrary want/wish to trim down the number of "uber" planes you see in the game.
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I think they should charge $15 for each post on the wish list. :devil
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Jug,
I understand what your saying,afterall $$$ is a great motivator but wouldn't this idea unbalance things??
You'd have players that have plenty of money to throw around with a complete hanger full of the latest and greatest but you'd also have many players without the means to fill their hanger and by your example they'd be penalized by virtue of only having access to the "limited planeset".
My 2 cents on the subject.
:salute
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JUG I have to agree with Waystin on this -1
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DLC works on large games, such as the Call of Duty series or Halo series, It is easy because they run off many servers.
With HTC, it would be extremely hard to implement at server with the DLC and have enough people to populate it.
Say 200 people download the nuke for the B29, they would have to be put in a different server, an then only those 200 people could use the DLC together (max of 50 people in arena at one time).
DLC is just not going to work with a game with this small of a community base, now if we could get another 100,000 people, then your talkin!
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The problem is that people already feel like they have paid for the game with the original monthly payment. Paying more money for an extra feature (uber planes/GV's/boats) of a product that they already paid for doesn't sit well with people.
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Jug,
I understand what your saying,afterall $$$ is a great motivator but wouldn't this idea unbalance things??
You'd have players that have plenty of money to throw around with a complete hanger full of the latest and greatest but you'd also have many players without the means to fill their hanger and by your example they'd be penalized by virtue of only having access to the "limited planeset".
My 2 cents on the subject.
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This is a great point! With that said I hope all will realize that with a customer base that rarely changes (it may have turnover) but growth seems to be slight if at all, It is an extraordinary thing that HTC does to poor resources into furthering a product with relatively little return for the "added" resources put forth! It truely is extraordinary.
In my business IF there was little to no reward for added effort I would put my resources and effort where it would have a return for me.
Everyone here should truely undesrstand this and be quite thankfull! IMHO
JUGgler
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IMO they should focus on advertising before every even considering your idea :)
99.9718% of people have never heard of Aces High 2
Do more commercials on history and military channel.
Also everything else in this economy is going up why not bump subscription prices to 19.95$
i don't know about you Belial...but i have payed 14.95 for last ten years and i hope to only pay 14.95 until the day i die...and anyway the price of "tangable goods" have gone up for supply demand reasons/ the 1% of the country that controls most of the $ F...ed us up bad and are making us pay for it. But i agree with more ads on History/ military channel. and something better then old ads they were lame... maybe a donation option can be added for ads... with a couple of perks for your charity or some federal tax exemption credits. i sure would donate when ever i can knowing that it is to keep price at 14.95 and it will be used to bring in more player
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i don't know about you Belial...but i have payed 14.95 for last ten years and i hope to only pay 14.95 until the day i die...and anyway the price of "tangable goods" have gone up for supply demand reasons/ the 1% of the country that controls most of the $ F...ed us up bad and are making us pay for it. But i agree with more ads on History/ military channel. and something better then old ads they were lame... maybe a donation option can be added for ads... with a couple of perks for your charity or some federal tax exemption credits. i sure would donate when ever i can knowing that it is to keep price at 14.95 and it will be used to bring in more player
So you'd pay extra to keep the price at 14.95? :headscratch:
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So you'd pay extra to keep the price at 14.95? :headscratch:
Donate and Pay are two different concepts
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i don't know about you Belial...but i have payed 14.95 for last ten years and i hope to only pay 14.95 until the day i die...and anyway the price of "tangable goods" have gone up for supply demand reasons/ the 1% of the country that controls most of the $ F...ed us up bad and are making us pay for it. But i agree with more ads on History/ military channel. and something better then old ads they were lame... maybe a donation option can be added for ads... with a couple of perks for your charity or some federal tax exemption credits. i sure would donate when ever i can knowing that it is to keep price at 14.95 and it will be used to bring in more player
This is not realistic and I guarantee HTC expenses go up every year. It is quite an achievement that they have managed to keep the same price for so long. I suspect the 50-60K gross he gets per month (which is nothing when it comes to business) for this product is rather small compaired to related endeavors they are involved with these days! Just a guess on my part.
Still the best way to motivate a business to support more of what the customers enjoy is thru the almighty $. This truth has and will stand the test of time!
I must admit I'm quite suprised that so few support a small fee to have more of what you want!
Honestly if it is a cost issue and a few extra bucks now and then is too much, maybe the sub $ would be better spent for RL issues IF these folks are honestly that strapped for cash! I know if my finances were so tight I could not justify a few more bucks now and then, common sense dictates I could not justify the $15 now ;)
You get what you pay for in this world, pay more you'll get more and or better quality!
It would be interesting if HTC would post on these boards something like this:
Dear customers we are studying the potential to grow our inventory line by adding 2 new vehicles each quarter and a graphics upgrade once a year. These improvements require resources. Currently any additions and improvements we make have been pro bono. we are asking if our customer base would pay an additional "1 time fee" for each additional vehicle they may want. There is no requirement to purchase any vehicle and you may pick and choose of the new ones developed, the estimated 1 time cost is $3 per additional vehicle. The current vehicle list will be secured as the "basic package" so no fear in losing any vehicle you currently enjoy. This is merely a means to facilitate further resources put forth for more products and greater depth of service we provide you. Again there is NO involuntary added expense to our customers, thanks for your patronage!
What say you?
somethin like that :) what would be the response do you think?
JUGgler
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well they have to stay at a competitive price with all other monthly pay to play games...fighter ace 14.95 for last 15 yrs...warcraft 14.95 last 10 or so years...ect...
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well they have to stay at a competitive price with all other monthly pay to play games...fighter ace 14.95 for last 15 yrs...warcraft 14.95 last 10 or so years...ect...
I probably wouldn't use a company that is no longer in business as an example.
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This is one reason I don't think it'll work JUGler; what aircraft would they come out with? Updates no doubt help maintain customer base and draw in new customers. Let's say they come out with an He-111, cool plane, I'd like to see it, but I wouldn't pay extra for it. Like the new Betty, it's fun to fly now and then, but if I had to have made the decision a couple months ago if I would have payed extra for it... no way. Now the B-29, yeah, I'd be willing to pay for that. So IMO, only the "uber" planes would pay off, but HTC would have no incentive to release anything less. I think it would only end up with the usage of more low ENY planes. New players would come in, pay their $15, and realize they can't fly the planes they want unless they pay extra for each one! That will only scare many of them off. Frustrating the current population, and scaring off new customers, sounds like poor incentive to me.
:salute
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I probably wouldn't use a company that is no longer in business as an example.
This is one reason I don't think it'll work JUGler; what aircraft would they come out with? Updates no doubt help maintain customer base and draw in new customers. Let's say they come out with an He-111, cool plane, I'd like to see it, but I wouldn't pay extra for it. Like the new Betty, it's fun to fly now and then, but if I had to have made the decision a couple months ago if I would have payed extra for it... no way. Now the B-29, yeah, I'd be willing to pay for that. So IMO, only the "uber" planes would pay off, but HTC would have no incentive to release anything less. I think it would only end up with the usage of more low ENY planes. New players would come in, pay their $15, and realize they can't fly the planes they want unless they pay extra for each one! That will only scare many of them off. Frustrating the current population, and scaring off new customers, sounds like poor incentive to me.
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Again excellent feedback, although they could guarantee 2 vehicles per quarter or just more frequent and reliable updates that in itself may be incentive for some to "buy in"
Think of it like shoes, you already have a pair, you don't need them but it would be nice. Now when at the store you could buy the cheap crappy ones or pay more for better but you still must pay for them. With my example the crappy and good ones are the same price. Paying more for something "more uber" is not the point. Incentivising thru pay for more "bells and whistles, more often is!
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JUGgler
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JUGgler: Feel free to make game play suggestions, but you really have no basis to even begin a marketing discussion when you have zero knowledge of this type of business.
HiTech
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Hitech are you guys still considering a perk loadout system?
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Yes moot, but it's main purpose is to condense planes like the F4u-1c and 1d into a single plane.
HiTech
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Yes moot, but it's main purpose is to condense planes like the F4u-1c and 1d into a single plane.
HiTech
Would you consider using it for rarer weapons packages as well? Such as ... hypothetically speaking, 1000lb bombs on P-51s and P-47s? Or say... 8x20mm package on the Me410?
Or would you just use it in a few rare cases like the c-hog?
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That's what I was thinking of, thanks HT
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JUGgler: Feel free to make game play suggestions, but you really have no basis to even begin a marketing discussion when you have zero knowledge of this type of business.
HiTech
This is a true enough statement, our businesses are quite different!
No offense intended!
JUGgler
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This is a true enough statement, our businesses are quite different!
No offense intended!
JUGgler
What kind of business do you run?
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Larry your fileden sig is setting off malware alert on chrome. Don't expect it matters since it's just a pic, but fyi
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Alright Ill see whats up with it.
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JUGler is in the jug business :D
-1 on the idea, exemple: to join this event you must have the early LW pack, click here to buy :t