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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: trax1 on March 04, 2011, 06:48:23 PM
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This story came out a few weeks ago but I just read about it, it says that there might be a gas giant or brown dwarf star might be beyond Pluto in the Ort Cloud with a 27 million year orbit of the Sun named Tyche, it could explain why we see long term comets coming from the wrong direction, and explain why we have an extinction level event on Earth about every 27 million years. New data from NASA's WISE telescope could determine if it is really there or not.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/ (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/)
http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/02/14/new-planet-tyche-gas-giant-could-lurk-past-pulto/ (http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/02/14/new-planet-tyche-gas-giant-could-lurk-past-pulto/)
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This mystery planet beyond Pluto is actually an old story. There are stories about Planet X, Nibiru, and a slew of other things. Conspiracy theorists claim that this mystery planet makes a close pass by Earth's orbit every couple thousand years and causes mass destruction. They even claim that some kind of event like this will happen in Dec. 21, 2012. Conspiracy theorists just spout a bunch of garbage with no evidence to support anything.
As for there being another planet? It's certainly possible.
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I think we could see it if it was a star
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Brown dwarf star is very hard to see. It is more like a large gas planet.
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This mystery planet beyond Pluto is actually an old story. There are stories about Planet X, Nibiru, and a slew of other things. Conspiracy theorists claim that this mystery planet makes a close pass by Earth's orbit every couple thousand years and causes mass destruction. They even claim that some kind of event like this will happen in Dec. 21, 2012. Conspiracy theorists just spout a bunch of garbage with no evidence to support anything.
As for there being another planet? It's certainly possible.
This story doesn't claim the planet comes anywhere near Earth, just that it is far out in the Ort Cloud, about 15000 times farther then the Earth to the Sun, it just says it disturbs comets out there sending into the inner solar system. They say that with the new NASA WISE telescope they may have the data showing it's there, they said they might know by April.
I think we could see it if it was a star
Not if it's a Brown Dwarf star, it would be too dim to be seen easily.
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The guys that said something about it got picked up out of proportion by the press. They didn't actually say anything conclusive either way, IIRC only that they were looking at the data again. CNN wouldn't get into details enough to keep its audience's attention. If you go to EG badastronomy blog, you should find enough clues that lead to full accurate facts
I think we could see it if it was a star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf
Or even just Jupiter sized
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What if it's...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/death-star-1.jpg)
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What if it's...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/death-star-1.jpg)
That's not the 10th planet.......that's a battle station
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Perhaps someone should check the coordinates....
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb362/saucie1/MissingImage.jpg)
:noid
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Perhaps someone should check the coordinates....
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb362/saucie1/MissingImage.jpg)
:noid
:noid
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This story came out a few weeks ago but I just read about it, it says that there might be a gas giant or brown dwarf star might be beyond Pluto in the Ort Cloud with a 27 million year orbit of the Sun named Tyche, it could explain why we see long term comets coming from the wrong direction, and explain why we have an extinction level event on Earth about every 27 million years. New data from NASA's WISE telescope could determine if it is really there or not.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/ (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/)
http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/02/14/new-planet-tyche-gas-giant-could-lurk-past-pulto/ (http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/02/14/new-planet-tyche-gas-giant-could-lurk-past-pulto/)
I seem to remember reading an article about this when it was proven that something that far out could not have a stable orbit, and would vary by as much as 50% over long time spans, due to the gravitational wells of passing stars and the interaction between them....
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I seem to remember reading an article about this when it was proven that something that far out could not have a stable orbit, and would vary by as much as 50% over long time spans, due to the gravitational wells of passing stars and the interaction between them....
Well if you can find it please post it, I'd love to read it.
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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/14/no-theres-no-proof-of-a-giant-planet-in-the-outer-solar-system/
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/03/where-is-tyche-the-new-10th-9th-planet-getting-to-the-bottom-of-the-story.ars
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I dropped a Brown Giant this morning. Probably will on 12/21 also.
<S> Oz
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:lol
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(http://blogs.popzara.com/media/12/20100226-ackbar_trap_01.jpg)
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There's also no evidence of a regular mass extinction cycle as the OP states. If anything, the evidence indicates that mass extinction events are becoming LESS frequent over time. For example, there was no mass extinction event between the Triassic-Jurassic and the end-Cretaceous events. That's a period of nearly 150 million years, and well outside the "27 million year cycle."
Does that mean there's NOT something beyond Pluto? Of course not! However it also shows that one of the pieces of proposed evidence is invalid.
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There's also no evidence of a regular mass extinction cycle as the OP states. If anything, the evidence indicates that mass extinction events are becoming LESS frequent over time. For example, there was no mass extinction event between the Triassic-Jurassic and the end-Cretaceous events. That's a period of nearly 150 million years, and well outside the "27 million year cycle."
Does that mean there's NOT something beyond Pluto? Of course not! However it also shows that one of the pieces of proposed evidence is invalid.
What I stated in my OP was what was said in the article about a mass extinction event happening about every 27 million years, now I know and I think any reasonable person would also realize that it wouldn't be like clockwork with an extinction event happening every 27 million years, again this was from the scientist that are purposing this theory about the outer planet, and it's just a theory.
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It has been stated by some scientists that most star systems are actually binary or more. What happened to the mate for our star?
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(http://www.teluglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Borg-ship.jpg)
:uhoh
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What if it's...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/death-star-1.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
No Gasplanet can be Bigger than I Farth in 41 yeahrs
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What if it's...
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/death-star-1.jpg)
Look at the size of that thing
(thats what she said...)
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(http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/the_hitchhiker_s_guide_to_the_galaxy/vogonship.jpg)
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There's also no evidence of a regular mass extinction cycle as the OP states. If anything, the evidence indicates that mass extinction events are becoming LESS frequent over time. For example, there was no mass extinction event between the Triassic-Jurassic and the end-Cretaceous events. That's a period of nearly 150 million years, and well outside the "27 million year cycle."
Does that mean there's NOT something beyond Pluto? Of course not! However it also shows that one of the pieces of proposed evidence is invalid.
Well, there is a very slight increase in the chance of a mass extinction event every 27 million years, but that has never been associated with anything more than background clutter in the data.
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It has been stated by some scientists that most star systems are actually binary or more. What happened to the mate for our star?
It's called Jupiter, which is at almost exactly the "normal" distance for binaries. Jupiter never got enough "stuff" at accretion to reach critical mass and start fusing.
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Who sounded the moray horn?
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Who sounded the moray horn?
Your girlfriend.
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Normal distance for binary? Jupiter is 5.2 AU from Sol. Sirius B is anywhere from 8.1 to 31.5 AU from Sirius A. Why doesn't Jupiter orbit a common center point like a binary?
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Normal distance for binary? Jupiter is 5.2 AU from Sol. Sirius B is anywhere from 8.1 to 31.5 AU from Sirius A. Why doesn't Jupiter orbit a common center point like a binary?
Not enough "swing" to create a common center point? After forming, the binaries would constantly tug at each other until they did orbit a common point in the center. Jupiter had neither the mass nor the velocity to create such an effect. Of course, that's only if the two stars in the binary have similar mass, or one is smaller with higher orbital motion.
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Yeah I had heard of Jupiter referred to as a failed star, that it just didn't have enough mass to ignite.
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Here this from Alex Rudolph of the physics department at Harvey Mudd College,
"Jupiter is called a failed star because it is made of the same elements (hydrogen and helium) as is the Sun, but it is not massive enough to have the internal pressure and temperature necessary to cause hydrogen to fuse to helium, the energy source that powers the sun and most other stars.
"However, Jupiter has only about 0.1 percent the mass of the sun, and as it is definitely not a star, we can't really call the solar system a double star. It is interesting to note, however, that more than half of all stars in the sky are part of a binary, triple, or higher multiple star system (binaries being the most common). So the Sun is unusual in being a loner.
"As for why Jupiter failed to become a star--it probably had to do with the accident of the sun grabbing most of the mass early in the formation of the solar system, while in other systems the mass was more equitably distributed; in binary star systems, for example, the masses of the stars are commonly roughly equal. Stellar formation is a hot topic of current research, as astronomers are trying to fathom the still-mysterious details of the birth process.
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Yeah I had heard of Jupiter referred to as a failed star, that it just didn't have enough mass to ignite.
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