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Title: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 08, 2011, 08:33:22 AM
A few days ago, there were several instances when the game suddenly minimized without an apparent reason.  I didn't alt-tab, hit the Windows key, or hit Ctrl-Esc.

However, I was most fighting, hitting various button combinations on the stick and throttle, so I'm wondering if something there is sending a wayward command to the OS and alt-tabbing out of the game.

Is there any type of text log, stored locally, of what keystrokes were pressed, or a way to enable one for troubleshooting?


Thanks.
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: Skuzzy on March 08, 2011, 09:37:05 AM
No.  If you hit the dreaded "Windows" key, that will minimize the game.
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 08, 2011, 12:45:47 PM
No.  If you hit the dreaded "Windows" key, that will minimize the game.

Ok.  Thanks.

I'm 100% sure it wasn't the actual Windows key though as one hand was on the stick and the other was on the throttle.

I'll keep looking at it from my end to figure it out.

Appreciate the quick reply again. :)
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: Skuzzy on March 08, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
It could also be another program, such as a malware or spyware or virus that is asserting itself as the primary application causing Windows to minimize the game.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: Krusty on March 08, 2011, 02:07:31 PM
alt+tab, ctrl+esc, and possibly alt+space and ctrl+tab (depending on the game?) can sometimes minimize your game. These are windows shortcuts.

Keep an eye out if you're hitting tab and your hand rests on the CTRL key as well. If you reach up on the keyboard to hit ESC for clipboard but you're just brushing the CTRL key, it can lead to this...
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 08, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Thanks.  I'm nearly positive it's not malware, spyware, or a virus.  I'm dilligent.

It's definitely not my hands hitting the keyboard, Krusty.  But it could be something related to hitting a button that has Escape mapped to it.

This is happening in actual fights, so I'm working the throttle and stick, while clicking buttons, moving the hat switch, etc.  That's why it makes me wonder if I'm somehow sending one of the combinations from my equipment.

Thanks guys. :)


 :salute
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: The Fugitive on March 08, 2011, 03:28:55 PM
you spilled margaritas out of your blender again didn't you  :devil
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 08, 2011, 03:40:03 PM
lol ssssh.

it might be the mix, after all, is it really needed? :)
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 15, 2011, 09:10:41 AM
Update:  Found the culprit after seeing an icon briefly appear in the notification area while working in Windows.  It's something new with my firewall software when it was doing automatic updates.

I disabled the automatic checking and the minimizing stopped. 

What a pain to find that after a few years an update changes the way the program works. !#$!# :)

Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: Tigger29 on March 15, 2011, 12:51:30 PM
Update:  Found the culprit after seeing an icon briefly appear in the notification area while working in Windows.  It's something new with my firewall software when it was doing automatic updates.

I disabled the automatic checking and the minimizing stopped. 

What a pain to find that after a few years an update changes the way the program works. !#$!# :)



If you are connected through a router (or a cable/dsl modem with a router built in identifiable by having multiple connections for various computers) then the router is acting as a hardware firewall, making your software firewall redundant.  If that is the case simply uninstall your software firewall solution.

If you ARE connected directly to the internet without a router, even if you have only one computer you should consider purchasing a router.  They can be had in many cases for under $20 (and even under $10 sometimes) and provides for a much more stable, trouble free connection without having all of the software hassles.
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 15, 2011, 01:09:39 PM
If you are connected through a router (or a cable/dsl modem with a router built in identifiable by having multiple connections for various computers) then the router is acting as a hardware firewall, making your software firewall redundant.  If that is the case simply uninstall your software firewall solution.

If you ARE connected directly to the internet without a router, even if you have only one computer you should consider purchasing a router.  They can be had in many cases for under $20 (and even under $10 sometimes) and provides for a much more stable, trouble free connection without having all of the software hassles.

Thanks for the advice, but I've been in IT for a long time.  It's just a belt and suspenders this way.  Layers and layers of security.

Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: Tigger29 on March 15, 2011, 04:50:45 PM
Thanks for the advice, but I've been in IT for a long time.  It's just a belt and suspenders this way.  Layers and layers of security.

Wow.. you being in IT would especially make me think that you would not be using a software firewall, but to each his own!

This kind of reminds me of a girl I went to high school with.  Her car got broken into THREE TIMES in the school's parking lot.  It was a good school but in a bad neighborhood.  Anyway, after the first time she had the door lock fixed (her passenger side door wouldn't lock).  After the second time she had an alarm installed.  After the third time she didn't know WHAT she was going to do... then we found out that she kept hanging gold necklaces from her rear view mirror AND LEAVING THEM THERE!  We simply couldn't get her to understand that if she didn't leave that fancy jewelry out in plain sight then her car wouldn't get broken into.

Moral of the story?  Obviously if you're a large company you're going to have security issues.  Even small companies might have to deal with this from time to time.  The average person?  MEH.  I'm not saying that random 'sniffers' don't cause problems and of course basic security measures will put those to the curb but for the most part, but "layers and layers" of security is just not necessary for the average computer user and often creates more problems than it helps with (as you've just witnessed).

All I can say at this point is... well you might have been in IT for a long time, but personally I'm not impressed.  I mean come on, your question of "Is there any type of text log, stored locally, of what keystrokes were pressed, or a way to enable one for troubleshooting?" is so obviously amateur that it's not even funny.  Being an IT professional you should not need to be on these boards asking this kind of a question.. but hey who am I to talk?  You know more than I do, right?  (you sure about that?)
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 15, 2011, 05:21:15 PM
must be that "Missouri's SHOW ME" atitude


.. but hey who am I to talk?  You know more than I do, right?  (you sure about that?)

I do not see where Mir ( katanaso ), said that he knew more than you

All I can say at this point is... well you might have been in IT for a long time, but personally I'm not impressed.  I mean come on, your question of "Is there any type of text log, stored locally, of what keystrokes were pressed, or a way to enable one for troubleshooting?" is so obviously amateur that it's not even funny. 

I do not see where Mir asking if there is a keylogger program  built in to the game to check for trouble shooting is as you put it "so amateur" for an IT Pro..... Mir posted what was causing his problem, and not even you could have expected that an update to one of your software/programs on your PC would have changed the way the software updated itself, just like Mir did not expect such a thing to happen.. but he did ressolve his problem without someone doing it for him.....

Why must you go and attack him or flame him as you did with your last post???

He told you "Thanks for the advice"........ he did not flame you!

TC
Title: Re: Is There a Log of Keystrokes on the Client?
Post by: katanaso on March 15, 2011, 05:38:23 PM
Wow.. you being in IT would especially make me think that you would not be using a software firewall, but to each his own!

This kind of reminds me of a girl I went to high school with.  Her car got broken into THREE TIMES in the school's parking lot.  It was a good school but in a bad neighborhood.  Anyway, after the first time she had the door lock fixed (her passenger side door wouldn't lock).  After the second time she had an alarm installed.  After the third time she didn't know WHAT she was going to do... then we found out that she kept hanging gold necklaces from her rear view mirror AND LEAVING THEM THERE!  We simply couldn't get her to understand that if she didn't leave that fancy jewelry out in plain sight then her car wouldn't get broken into.

Moral of the story?  Obviously if you're a large company you're going to have security issues.  Even small companies might have to deal with this from time to time.  The average person?  MEH.  I'm not saying that random 'sniffers' don't cause problems and of course basic security measures will put those to the curb but for the most part, but "layers and layers" of security is just not necessary for the average computer user and often creates more problems than it helps with (as you've just witnessed).

All I can say at this point is... well you might have been in IT for a long time, but personally I'm not impressed.  I mean come on, your question of "Is there any type of text log, stored locally, of what keystrokes were pressed, or a way to enable one for troubleshooting?" is so obviously amateur that it's not even funny.  Being an IT professional you should not need to be on these boards asking this kind of a question.. but hey who am I to talk?  You know more than I do, right?  (you sure about that?)

Heh.  I'm not even going to post the reply I had written after TC showed the class that I was about to lose with you. ;)