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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Chalenge on March 14, 2011, 11:31:31 PM

Title: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: Chalenge on March 14, 2011, 11:31:31 PM
Last week I discovered my XP OS wasnt able to run stable anymore. As it turned out the reason was a SATA DVD burner which when unhooked allows XP to run fine. Has anyone else noticed this?

So... unhooking the drive fixed that problem but also my W7 crashes have disappeared. I have been testing both W7 32 and 64 bit without a UPS USB line unhooking the SATA DVD cleared up all crashes. I have had no crashes for more than a week. You might want to try that if you are having problems.
Title: Re: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: BaldEagl on March 14, 2011, 11:38:57 PM
I run XP Pro with 4 SATA HD's and 2 SATA optical drives with no problems.
Title: Re: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: Chalenge on March 15, 2011, 12:10:39 AM
Yes and I thought I was having no issues either. Then XP started giving me a nvgts.sys BSOD and researching that indicated a SATA optical drive incompatibility. Point is though... IF you are having the "Aces High has stopped responding" problem and running W7 64 bit this gives you something to try. Unplug your SATA DVD and see!
Title: Re: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 15, 2011, 01:00:08 PM
Last week I discovered my XP OS wasnt able to run stable anymore. As it turned out the reason was a SATA DVD burner which when unhooked allows XP to run fine. Has anyone else noticed this?

So... unhooking the drive fixed that problem but also my W7 crashes have disappeared. I have been testing both W7 32 and 64 bit without a UPS USB line unhooking the SATA DVD cleared up all crashes. I have had no crashes for more than a week. You might want to try that if you are having problems.

This is troubleshootings second rule - unplug every device that isn't necessary for action and try if problem still exists. First rule is to remove all bios tweaks and return to stock settings (especially get rid of overclock).
Title: Re: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: gyrene81 on March 15, 2011, 01:08:54 PM
got a brand and model number on that drive?

i've seen some plextors do that...firmware issue...makes me wonder if you had a compatibility issue.
Title: Re: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: Skuzzy on March 15, 2011, 01:32:17 PM
This particular problem might be due to low power to the USB hub.  We have discovered Windows (all versions) gets really confused and streams messages to all the applications opened when the USB bus power fluctuates.

It is normally no problem, but since we added support for being able to hot swap/plug USB stick devices, we became susceptible to the errant messages.  Messages that appear to be legitimate, but are not.  There is no way to know.

The SATA bus also suffers the same problem.
Title: Re: XP and optical drives w/ SATA interface...W7 crashes
Post by: Chalenge on March 16, 2011, 05:48:20 AM
This is exactly what Skuzzy says it is. I have been working from minimum devices up and with varying devices to discover what the problem is exactly. This particular problem is common among lesser motherboards but when I say lesser I dont mean they suck just that they arent top of the line. The FTW line of Evga doesnt seem to suffer the same problem for instance but the more standard SLI line does. Im hoping to move everything about AH over to a FTW board next and avoid these problems. Not sure about the 1155s but you know I have to try one!