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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Condor11 on March 17, 2011, 08:41:49 AM
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I've Been dying to better learn the 38, maybe its just the old birds beauty, our maybe its growing up watching iron eagles 3, but iwant to fly her. Im only recently becoming known a s a good stick, so the skill level is getting there. But I would love fpr a skilled 38 pilot to show me the ropes, because I can't get her. My callsign is condor and I fly bish, but illgo where ever for training. Please let me know.
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Check out the wiki site for 113th Lucky Strikes, we fly in the late war arena, Co is Gunston, Xo is Traveler, Squad night is Saturday nights at 7:00PM EDST. Knights, Vox 113.
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If you have any free time tonight there will be trainers in the arena from 6pm-10pm EDT. I'm on the west coast so I won't be there for a couple hours yet but I'm happy to field questions.
Alternatively I'd be happy to setup some one on one time as well. I'm a little tight on flying time at the moment, but could conceivably get something set up either next week or the week after.
Shoot me a private message if you're interested, you could also try Silat or Delirium who both fly the 38 and see if their schedules are any better than mine at the moment.
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contact Soulyss or Delirium.
the two best 38 sticks i know, and both fantastic teachers
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AKAK
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^^^ what he said, AKAK is one of the most frustraiting people to fly against in the entire game
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Just to be clear. There are no skilled 38 pilots out there.
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Just to be clear. There are no skilled 38 pilots out there.
Yea, especially me. I totally suck at flying period. I'll be darned if I can land the sorry bird with gears down. :(
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Oh I think many of us are very skilled at controlled crashes.
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We have a couple semi-decent virtual pile-its here and there though, I'm sure
they wouldn't mind chiming in :aok
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Yea, especially me. I totally suck at flying period. I'll be darned if I can land the sorry bird with gears down. :(
I'd be glad to help you with that. professional CFI here. Can teach you to land under control in 15 minutes or so. let me know.
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I'd be glad to help you with that. professional CFI here. Can teach you to land under control in 15 minutes or so. let me know.
Thanks for the offer Traveler but Plazus may be exaggerating his ineptness just a wee bit for comedic effect. :)
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Ugh! 2 engines where's the risk?
:neener:
JUGgler
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I've also started logging some sorties in P38s. Big :salute to Traveler for sharing some films with me and big :salute to Delirium for answering a few questions on ch200 for me this tonight.
I was wondering if someone can detail the differences between the J and L models, beyond the dive flap on the L of course. I've been flying the J, but i really don't know what the pros and cons between the models are.
Thanks
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There's actually very little to choose from between the J and L models. They have the same weight and engine power, the L has the boosted ailerons and the dive flaps.
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There's actually very little to choose from between the J and L models. They have the same weight and engine power, the L has the boosted ailerons and the dive flaps.
With all that "logic" and "data" out of the way, :neener: The J just seems to feel lighter and a bit quicker in the roll for some reason or other.
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For me (as a Jabo pilot primarily) the main difference are relatively center-mounted rockets
on the -J, as they make hitting GV's far easier.
Other than that, I think you should just find your favorite skin of the two and fly that
particular model with the particular skin :devil
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You can snap roll the J model. The L doesn't like to snap roll.
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Let me add the name 8spade. There are probably 5 or 6 real skilled 38 sticks, you have a few of the names. The trick will be to run into anyone of them with time to train. I ran into Delerium in Frame 2 BOG. He was not kind to me in my 109 but my squady 4brkfast sorted that out later. :aok
Boo
:salute
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No p38 pilots. i shot all down.
:D
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Except one that come in my dreams when i have high fever.
:D :D
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Del, Pawz, Lazer, and 8Spade
Probably the 4 best I have ever fought.
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For me (as a Jabo pilot primarily) the main difference are relatively center-mounted rockets
on the -J, as they make hitting GV's far easier.
Other than that, I think you should just find your favorite skin of the two and fly that
particular model with the particular skin :devil
Just keep in mind that you're going to pay a higher drag penalty from the bazooka tubes than the christmas tree rack on the L model. I tend to fly the G more these days because I'm big history dweeb. Before that I flew the J but mostly because I liked the skins on it more.
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38G looks better :)
The 38J we have is an earlier J-10-or J-15 without power assisted ailerons or the dive flap. The 38L has power assisted controls and the dive flap so it should roll faster then the J.
I've read in a number of places where pilots who went from the early J to an L struggled a bit getting used to the sensitivity of the controls as they were used to hauling the 38 around without help.
For whatever reason many folks feel more comfortable in the 38J over the L. Most times if I run into an L it's someone lugging ord, not looking for a fight.
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You can snap roll the J model. The L doesn't like to snap roll.
I noticed this, why is it like this
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I noticed this, why is it like this
I tried this again and I can snap roll the L model now. The last time I tried I couldn't do it and I thought I had done it in the past. :headscratch:
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I tried this again and I can snap roll the L model now. The last time I tried I couldn't do it and I thought I had done it in the past. :headscratch:
In the MA my favorite overshoot weapon for the 38 was the tumble climb, there is a YouTube video of it, but I tried to do it in a L and couldnt
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In the MA my favorite overshoot weapon for the 38 was the tumble climb, there is a YouTube video of it, but I tried to do it in a L and couldnt
Not sure what speeds you were trying to do it at but there was a small tweak to the 38L's flight performance awhile back. They discovered a bug that resulted in the L not getting full power from the engines and very slow speeds (for get the number but it was like 150-100, something like that I think).
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Just to add my .02c
For the question of the J v L ...I find the J a much harder prospect than the L....fighting the same person (8spade) I have an easier time...last more turns...when he is in the L...
Even that comparison aside...from my side the J seems to be a much harder fight than the L, not sure if it all comes down to pilot skill or what but that is what I find...and if I see a G...then I run...cause uberness is in that one (pilot that is) :lol :lol :D..Actually, I think I've even fought 8spade when he was in one of them too../.
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not sure if it all comes down to pilot skill or what but that is what I find...and if I see a G...then I run...cause uberness is in that one (pilot that is) :lol :lol :D
Funny you should say that. I was noticing a couple evenings ago that it did seem like some opponents were avoiding me and I wondered if the 38s have developed a reputation for being piloted by some of the more talented sticks in the game. It made me chuckle, if only the folks trying to avoid my P38 had engaged, they would have found me to be a pretty easy kill.
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Not sure what speeds you were trying to do it at but there was a small tweak to the 38L's flight performance awhile back. They discovered a bug that resulted in the L not getting full power from the engines and very slow speeds (for get the number but it was like 150-100, something like that I think).
I will have to retry once I get back into the game
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Just a little heads up, you will die numerous times when you are getting the hang of it.
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Just a little heads up, you will die numerous times when you are getting the hang of it.
Ehh, I'm not a score potato like most of our squad
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Ehh, I'm not a score potato like most of our squad
Statement to the OP.
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Statement to the OP.
Edit: I get it now lol
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Original Poster/Post.
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I seem to remember someone, a loooong time ago, did a test on the turning ability of the various 38's and there was a slight, but noticeable advantage in the J versus the L and the G was the hands down winnar!
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I seem to remember someone, a loooong time ago, did a test on the turning ability of the various 38's and there was a slight, but noticeable advantage in the J versus the L and the G was the hands down winnar!
There is no noticeable difference in maneuverability between the P-38J and L, the only difference comes into being at high speeds where the L has a better roll rate due to the boosted ailerons.
ack-ack
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There is no noticeable difference in maneuverability between the P-38J and L, the only difference comes into being at high speeds where the L has a better roll rate due to the boosted ailerons.
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If you want to learn or watch excellent p38 flying fly against/with these people... (there are others, but as of recently these are the ones I have ran into)
1)Soulyss
2)AkAk
3)Silat
4)CorkyJR
5)Delirium
6)Mir
7)Cactus
8)Muzik
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There is no noticeable difference in maneuverability between the P-38J and L, the only difference comes into being at high speeds where the L has a better roll rate due to the boosted ailerons.
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Was this fixed in an update?
This was discussed AND diagrammed here http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,212818.0.html
Though, it looks like the images aren't appearing anymore.
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TB is still alive