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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: scruu on February 16, 2000, 06:41:00 PM
when you saw WHO was shot down. Not because of the smack talk, but because i could tell if my winger got shot down.If goon made it etc. etc.

If voted on,I would like to see the old way back in place.

 And what happened to proximity kills? bring them back also, i liked the idea if you out flew you enemy and he augered you would get the kill, seams that is not happening any more (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

ScruU

Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: AKDejaVu on February 16, 2000, 08:00:00 PM
You realize that your nick prevents me from taking any post of yours with anything but a grain of salt.

I like the new system.  I'd ad that it would be even better if count was not reset if you landed on a paved runway.  Give us an idea of who would make ace if they had to play it somewhat straight up.

Its also time to be penalized for ditching in enemy territory.

AKDejaVu
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Kieren on February 16, 2000, 08:42:00 PM
I like the new way too. Notice the open channel is cleaner? Think it might have something to do with it?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

There is a penalty for ditching- at least there was. It counts as a death. The problem is score means nothing to many, so no score penalty matters. Myself, if it is more expedient to ditch than to fly over to where I'm needed in an emergency, I'll ditch every time.

Scenarios are another situation altogether...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: ezrust on February 16, 2000, 10:13:00 PM
Hey, I really like the idea of not resetting the score if landed on a paved runway... very cool way to simulate streaks.  Of course, Eric Hartmann got shot down sixteen times and managed to keep his streak.  Perhpas your streak should end if you die.  If you get captured (which Hartmann did once) there should be a random dice roll, say 10%, for a chance to escape and keep your streak.
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: JENG on February 16, 2000, 10:21:00 PM
Yeah I like it... would make the MA more realistic... in that people caring about those killstreak would have to organise themselves or have an exceptional SA level.

Would be fun to see who would realy make an ace  (imo you can see it now already... everybody with a K/D of over 5 is an ace in my book since he has died only after achieving 5 kills).

I'm a long way from that tho... pretty bad at shooting bad guys  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Fishu on February 16, 2000, 10:50:00 PM
One thing there could be done though, show friendly kills as names or colour.. (or some mark etc.)

I guess you should get a report if friendly gets killed?
Currently it seems to be no matter is it friendly or enemy who dies, so, its harder to keep up SA when you dont know was it friendly or not who died. (at least there were radio talking sometimes if friendly went down)

It wouldn't bother so much if it would be organized, but guys there are like fleas around, no idea whos going down   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Another thing comes there when those dots seems to be verrrrry hard to recognize which model they are, so it might be bad in historical arenas from some distance.
(can't misjudge the side of a bright metal grey dot going down)

Currently I don't see much bright grey planes, just big black dots (hmm, are those planes even bigger from distance than they used to?)

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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on February 17, 2000, 07:18:00 AM
 
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I'd add that it would be even better if count was not reset if you landed on a paved runway

Excellent idea!
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Westy on February 17, 2000, 07:24:00 AM
I'm not used to this new way yet but I'll give it a shake and see how it feels.
 I do miss the old kill buffer in that you could see the cold stark details a bit more.
 Like you knew when a Vulch fest was going on when you saw the same hanlde XXXX being killed by YYYYY or ZZZZ repeatedly.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
 "Shame" is a part of the online experience.
 I hope the new way isn't meant to soften that aspect of this WWII air combat/flight sim.

 -Westy


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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Saintaw on February 17, 2000, 07:35:00 AM
I do love the fact that you can see the Squadron's name in the Buffer though...


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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: popeye on February 17, 2000, 08:19:00 AM
So far, I like the new way better.  Adds a bit of Fog-o-War.

popeye
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: iculus on February 17, 2000, 10:04:00 AM
What about having a time limit before you can replane if shot down? Say about 5 minutes or less?  I think that would help make people want to land on a runway, and keep they're SA up while in flight.  Probably might help put an end to HO's as well... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Just a thought,

IC  
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Saintaw on February 17, 2000, 10:09:00 AM
Not acceptable, do you know how much it costs us here in England ? 1P a Minute, make that 5P for 5 Minutes, then X the time I get shot down (Not because I do HO's, but because I am new at this and learning...)


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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: scruu on February 17, 2000, 05:35:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
You realize that your nick prevents me from taking any post of yours with anything but a grain of salt.
(Noted)
I like the new system.  I'd ad that it would be even better if count was not reset if you landed on a paved runway.  Give us an idea of who would make ace if they had to play it somewhat straight up.( Not a bad idea, but should a land on a porked field really count as a ditch?)

Its also time to be penalized for ditching in enemy territory.( agreed)

AKDejaVu

ScruU
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: iculus on February 17, 2000, 05:39:00 PM
Good point Saintaw
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Downtown on February 17, 2000, 07:17:00 PM
No Reset for landing on a Paved Runway.

Yessss, Yesssss, Yessss.

Oh god I am turning into Al (who ever the sports caster is that wears womens clothing, and bites.)

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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Hangtime on February 17, 2000, 07:46:00 PM
Move stuff in my cage; I get nervous.

For me, as 'ol ScrewU pointed out (love that handle; btw) it was a critical part of SA, and since this change a big piece of my SA seemed to go out the window with the new reporting system.. I fly the sim on almost all levels.. I buff; I defend fields; I attack fields; the whole bit. Keeping up with the flow of the battle is done by reading and interpeting the kill data in the system buffer.

Now, I'm not sure what in hells going on up there in front as I get closer to the war.. (I don't have RW; and like more than a few pilots; have no intent to get it) all I see is the victors name.. not the vanquised. Somebody get our cap buff? Is our c47 still safe? Dammo.. it that low alt stike we sent in under attack?

Is this change to quell text buffer abuse? Hmmmmmmm.. while annoying at times; I've never considered the text box insults a detriment to SA.. but this loss of system info is. Nope.. not a good trade.. not at all. You wanna stop text buffer insults this way? Instead of a boot? Gimmie the boot.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Seems to me that we oughta be able to see who died.. after all, in combat; you'd not know the identity of WHO killed your wingie; but you'd sure know he's dead. Here it's exactly the opposite. This ain't 'fog of war'.. it's just 1/2 the info we used to have. I'm not charmed with the loss of data.

And frankly; if somebody tears me a new one; he deserves more credit than just a nameless victory message. Dontcha think?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Hang
Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Cobra on February 17, 2000, 07:49:00 PM
I think at one point HTC planned on implementing a system where you could land at a paved field, then taxi over to the hangar for re-fuel and re-arm and that would also keep your streak alive.

It would not fix damage however..for that you would need a new plane.

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Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Duckwing6 on February 18, 2000, 03:12:00 AM
I like the new system of showing kills too ... it'S as Popeye said .. it adds to the FOG of WAR ..
And at leats you know who you have been killed yb and the guy who shot ya know is too...

About the streaks.. Yea i'd like to keep my streak until i die .. Even thou some might think it makes you a target .. but i say the more famous guys in the arena (which i'm not) are targets aleady  they could use a li'll relief LOL

Regarding ditching.. Yea ditches on an airfield where you run off the runway should count as landed .. (every landing within the airbais boundaries...)

Title: i liked the "old" way
Post by: Kieren on February 18, 2000, 08:10:00 AM
I don't agree with you, Hang. I like the cleaner air, the tempers seemed to have calmed some, and anyone shot down need only report they are dead to let you know your strike has failed.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)