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Title: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Bostrola on March 22, 2011, 05:13:07 AM
I know that this aircraft didnt see any combat during the war (because Sweden wasnt a combatant), but its a beauty and something diffrent.

Engine: DB 605, 1475 Hp
Max speed: 400 mph
Climb: 3000 ft/min
Armament: 1 20mm Hispano + 4 13,2mm Hotchkiss

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/02/stuff_eng_detail_j21.htm
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Tyrannis on March 22, 2011, 05:15:49 AM
I know that this aircraft didnt see any combat during the war (because Sweden wasnt a combatant), but its a beauty and something diffrent.

Engine: DB 605, 1475 Hp
Max speed: 400 mph
Climb: 3000 ft/min
Armament: 1 20mm Hispano + 4 13,2mm Hotchkiss

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/02/stuff_eng_detail_j21.htm
to be in AH a plane has to have seen combat service during the war. and has to have been in squadron strengh.also with a kill record.
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: VonMessa on March 22, 2011, 07:08:13 AM
to be in AH a plane has to have seen combat service during the war. and has to have been in squadron strengh.also with a kill record.

References for all of these facts, please...
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Tyrannis on March 22, 2011, 07:56:42 AM
References for all of these facts, please...
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,306282.0.html
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: gyrene81 on March 22, 2011, 08:12:22 AM
geez vonmessa you've been around long enough to have seen the few times someone from htc answered a wishlist post on a plane...although i do question the "field mods" thing.

for sure it's:
no prototypes
squadron strength
used in combat action

anything else that gets quoted is just speculation from what i've seen...some people just don't know or realize that without adequate documentation to work with, nothing gets added.
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: VonMessa on March 22, 2011, 08:13:02 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,306282.0.html

Looking for the part where it says "kill record"
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: VonMessa on March 22, 2011, 08:20:07 AM
geez vonmessa you've been around long enough to have seen the few times someone from htc answered a wishlist post on a plane...although i do question the "field mods" thing.

for sure it's:
no prototypes
squadron strength
used in combat action

anything else that gets quoted is just speculation from what i've seen...some people just don't know or realize that without adequate documentation to work with, nothing gets added.

kinda what i was getting at   :D
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Tyrannis on March 22, 2011, 08:20:48 AM
Looking for the part where it says "kill record"
look up any of the topics about the peashooter for that i think.
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: VonMessa on March 22, 2011, 08:29:21 AM
look up any of the topics about the peashooter for that i think.


Remarkable, I searched peashooter.  Guess what the query results were...

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Image1.jpg)
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Tyrannis on March 22, 2011, 08:37:52 AM

Remarkable, I searched peashooter.  Guess what the query results were...

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Image1.jpg)
p26 peashooter, idk why it doesnt show up in topic search, i personally made a topic about it 2 months ago. so idk what to tell ya von
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: gyrene81 on March 22, 2011, 09:25:17 AM
kinda what i was getting at   :D
right over my head... :lol   :joystick:  :bolt:
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 22, 2011, 11:27:19 AM
look up any of the topics about the peashooter for that i think.

It's not the "kill record" that keeps the P-26 out of the game, it's the fact that it was an insignificant aircraft at the start of the war that played absolutely no role whatsoever other than the very few that flew being a target for Japanese fighters.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: curry1 on March 22, 2011, 11:31:09 AM
SAAB cars suck
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: morfiend on March 22, 2011, 11:37:47 AM
SAAB cars suck


 Only in the last 10 or 15 years,they are made by GM now!!  as for Saab A/C they make some of the finest A/C to grace the skies and I'd like to see this one added,provided it meets the HTC requirements,whatever they are... :noid



      :salute
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: tmetal on March 22, 2011, 01:03:34 PM
where there any pusher type combat aircraft during WW2 that would meet HTC's requirements?
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: gyrene81 on March 22, 2011, 02:34:48 PM
where there any pusher type combat aircraft during WW2 that would meet HTC's requirements?
doubt it...  :headscratch:


amazing thing about the op plane...used the same engine as the 109 but in spite of it's obvious heavier weight, it was faster than the 109-G6?   :headscratch:
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Tupac on March 22, 2011, 02:58:11 PM
There was a SAAB Drakken for sale on ebay a couple months ago caption was "Cruise at mach 2 in style"
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Rino on March 22, 2011, 03:09:19 PM
doubt it...  :headscratch:


amazing thing about the op plane...used the same engine as the 109 but in spite of it's obvious heavier weight, it was faster than the 109-G6?   :headscratch:

     Maybe after they converted it to the jet engines  :D  Built a model of this one back in 83 or so, that top speed appears
to be quite a bit higher than I remember.  The model also claimed that they had the first ejection egress system.
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Rino on March 22, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
where there any pusher type combat aircraft during WW2 that would meet HTC's requirements?

     Nope.  The only pushers I can remember were the Curtiss Ascender which had cooling trouble and the Japanese
Shinden at the end of the war.  Bell made a twin pusher, but I don't think it was accepted for service.  Only 13 were
made and it only flew from 1937-40.

     Aracuda

(http://www.air-boyne.com/Bell%20Airacuda%20in%20flight.jpg)
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: crazierthanu on March 22, 2011, 03:16:54 PM

Remarkable, I searched peashooter.  Guess what the query results were...

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Image1.jpg)

Got a laugh out of that sixth tab.  :D
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: TwinBoom on March 22, 2011, 04:01:43 PM
im not pushing any saab :neener:
Title: Re: A Twin-boom pusher. The SAAB J21.
Post by: Bostrola on March 24, 2011, 01:49:52 AM
doubt it...  :headscratch:


amazing thing about the op plane...used the same engine as the 109 but in spite of it's obvious heavier weight, it was faster than the 109-G6?   :headscratch:

Less drag? High grade fuel (The swedes had the better fuel available, Germans didnt)? Just a theory..