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Title: To many processes running
Post by: 428CJ on March 23, 2011, 02:49:25 PM
Skuzzy, TC or any of you tech gurus.

Gamebooster, Enditall, Alacricity ...


What is the recommended program to use for AH ?  I have to many processes runnning.

Thanks in advance,
CJ
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Skuzzy on March 23, 2011, 03:03:40 PM
I do not recommend any of them.  I simply shut down the services the computer does not need.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: RTHolmes on March 23, 2011, 03:25:20 PM
for XP - FSAutoStart :aok

I tried gamebooster, it did almost nothing :rolleyes:
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Chalenge on March 23, 2011, 03:42:45 PM
FSAutoAtart (now AlacrityPC) is a replacement for the manual process of shutting down the processes to play and then restarting them afterwards. It also allows you to setup programs to be run along with AH like fraps or your head tracking software. You still have to go through the procedure of figuring our which processes are safe to shut down and so on.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: BrockS on March 23, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
I do not recommend any of them.  I simply shut down the services the computer does not need.

Not everyone is as tech saavy as Skuzzy or not comfortable with researching and shutting down services themselves. A program for those folks that does the work for them is helpful. I use Gamebooster and it typically frees up about 248 to 350 MB of my 6GB. I'm not even sure if it has an impact or not. My issue is that I am running a 1.8 quad core and I feel it is pretty taxed. Anyway, I digress. Maybe if you could point folks to a list or a website to help them determine what they can shut down it would benefit the folks that aren't IT wizards.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Chalenge on March 23, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Its called Google.  :aok
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Skuzzy on March 23, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
BrockS, I do not need a WEB site.  The default services that are started by the OS are easy enough to Google for and find out what they are and if they are absolutely needed in the specific application.  Therein lies the rub.  Every computer has its own specific requirements as to what is running in the background based on the application the computer is used for and what applications are installed.

What I do is clean up the OS processes, inmmediately after an OS installation.  After that, I carefully monitor the processes after every application I install and note what processes are started by that application.  Those can all be shut down safely.  After shutting down the process, I start the application, and if the application runs fine, I leave the process disabled.

Most applications do not need the background processes they start up when they are installed.  Some do.

Once I make a list, I place the list in the installation CD/DVD box with the application disk.  That way I never have to look again.

It is just a matter of being very methodical in the process of getting a computer up and running.  The time taken upfront, can solve a lot of headaches down the road.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: 428CJ on March 23, 2011, 04:59:30 PM
OK let me elaborate, its my wifes laptop, she has lots  of stuff on it that i think slow it down.

I use it when we are out of town to play AH

I want to leave her programs on it - just shut them off when im in game.

Its an toshiba qosimo x505 an i7 processor with an NV gts250  vid card
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: gyrene81 on March 23, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
what operating system?

for windows 7 a quick google search for keywords "windows 7 services that can be disabled"

http://www.computingunleashed.com/list-of-services-in-windows-7-that-can.html (http://www.computingunleashed.com/list-of-services-in-windows-7-that-can.html)
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2011, 05:14:57 PM
check out blackviper.com

semp
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: 100Coogn on March 23, 2011, 09:38:20 PM
BrockS, I do not need a WEB site.  The default services that are started by the OS are easy enough to Google for and find out what they are and if they are absolutely needed in the specific application.  Therein lies the rub.  Every computer has its own specific requirements as to what is running in the background based on the application the computer is used for and what applications are installed.

What I do is clean up the OS processes, inmmediately after an OS installation.  After that, I carefully monitor the processes after every application I install and note what processes are started by that application.  Those can all be shut down safely.  After shutting down the process, I start the application, and if the application runs fine, I leave the process disabled.

Most applications do not need the background processes they start up when they are installed.  Some do.

Once I make a list, I place the list in the installation CD/DVD box with the application disk.  That way I never have to look again.

It is just a matter of being very methodical in the process of getting a computer up and running.  The time taken upfront, can solve a lot of headaches down the road.

I agree with this one, but since my computer didn't come with an OS disk of any kind, I have to be very careful on the things I do.  I do have Vista cut back quite a bit though and does make difference.  I just can't do anything that would warrant a reinstall.  No disk.

Coogan
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2011, 10:59:22 PM
laptops have the os in a partition our whatever you call it.  google the model to find out how to restore the os.

semp
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 24, 2011, 02:44:30 AM
Heya CJ,

sorry I just now seeing this.......   check ya email, Bro

we'll get the wifey's laptop fixed up so you be ready to go by tomorrow evening ( thursday evening )

cheers

TC
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Ghosth on March 24, 2011, 06:37:14 AM
You can do it the way skuzzy does it. In fact it is the best in many respects.

If you don't know how to google processes and gain control of your start menu I recomend Glary Utilities.
Very nice set of tools, but the reason it gets my recomendation is that it makes it easy for the user to google start menu and processes.

So it is teaching you how to research and gain control of your computer.

Now there is other stuff out there, but this one is the most user friendly I've found.

FYI one thing to consider when installing OS is to make 2 partitions.
One is stripped down bare walls for flying, other is anything goes is used for surfing, etc.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: lulu on March 24, 2011, 09:06:56 AM
I use advanced System Care. It seems to do its job.


 :salute
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Reschke on March 24, 2011, 01:27:59 PM
check out blackviper.com

semp

+ infinity recommended!

This guy is kinda like Skuzzy except he did this and then posted it online for others to know what BASIC OPERATING SYSTEM services could be disabled. Most people don't have the desire or the willingness to break down and check services like Skuzzy mentioned. Heck I just give it a cursory scan after reinstalling OS and shut down the basics then I check after I reinstall everything I want to run. If something that is default is running again I shut that back down with the console.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Skuzzy on March 24, 2011, 01:48:52 PM
You have to be very careful with blackviper.com.  There are some recommendations there that would bork a system, depending on what the system was being used for.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 24, 2011, 02:24:48 PM
You have to be very careful with blackviper.com.  There are some recommendations there that would bork a system, depending on what the system was being used for.

Yes Sir, that is why I started putting

"Use or attempt at your own Risk"

when I post or offer his web site or suggest people to shut services/processes off via services.msc

when People start messing around with Services, they seriously need to take precautions before hand, make a recovery disk, or make a disc image of their current HD/OS  and research each item they are messing with.....



TC
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: RTHolmes on March 24, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
thats why FSAuto is good - doesnt effect which processes startup, just kills em after startup. if it goes wrong, just reboot and have another go :aok
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: Tigger29 on March 24, 2011, 11:32:41 PM
I'm with Skuzzy on this one, although I think you'll see better results by terminating processes more so than stopping services.  Processes are basically "programs running in the background" and laptops in a factory configuration tend to have a LOT of them running.

The first thing I do is open up control panel, select Add/Remove Programs (or Programs and Features if Vista/7) and uninstalling everything that isn't used.  Most likely all "trial" and "demo" programs can be deleted.  I also like to remove the factory installed anti-virus software (it's usually only a trial anyway) and replacing it with my own.  Remove anything that says "google", "yahoo", "bing", or "toolbar".  Remove anything that says "troubleshooter", "Acer/HP/Dell", "assistant", "purchase", or "support".  Do *NOT* uninstall anything that says "RESTORE".  I understand this is the wife's computer so maybe get with her before uninstalling anything.  You'll be able to clean it up about 60% of the way just by doing this.  Personally I also like to uninstall anything else I can download for free... such as Adobe, Flash, Java as well just so I can start from scratch.

Next reboot the computer and do the following:

1> Open up TASK MANAGER by right clicking on a blank area of the start bar and selecting "Task Manager"

2> Open up the web browser

3> Go to google.com and type in the filename of each process running.  An example of one might be csrss.exe, TBAA.exe or AdobeSpeedLauncher.exe

4> Usually you'll see the info you need in google but you might have to click on a link or two to find out about it.  If it is a Windows file (like csrss.exe) you're probably better off leaving it be.  If it's a program related to a driver (such as TBAA.exe which is the Control Panel for my USB headset) then it's probably optional.  If you find out it's being generated by another program (such as AdobeSpeedLauncher.exe) then you need to open that program, go to its settings, and tell it not to "load at windows start-up," "load automatically," "check for updates automatically" or the like.  Many of these pre-load the program so it loads faster if and when you use it, and many other of these check every so often for updates to a program, and none in my opinion are necessary.  I see no need to run a background program to shave two seconds off my my loading time for software I rarely use, and I see no need to constantly check for updates when a quick check when I open the program might suffice.

5> If you don't have options to keep it from loading automatically then you might have to go in and manually remove it.  First check START/PROGRAMS/STARTUP and see if it is in there.  If so then remove it (it's just a shortcut).  If not then you'll need to manually edit the registry or use software to remove it from the registry.  Usually I'll simply uninstall and not use the program before going through that.  Then reboot and make sure it doesn't show up on the list of processes again.

6> If you just want to temporarily unload it, you can right click on the process in the task manager and select "End Process," just keep in mind it will come back on once rebooted or if the program is run manually.

If you want to make sure the system is kept clean, then reboot it and write down all of the processes that are running after a fresh reboot.  After that, any time you install a program (including add-ons, toolbars, and plug-ins) reboot again and now compare that list with what you wrote down.  Anything new was added by whatever you installed.  If you can go into that program and disable it then that is the best way to do so.  If you can't then you need to consider if you might be better off without that program.  If you actually DO want it to run then by all means leave it alone!

You'd be surprised by how much junk an "innocent" little program can create.  Almost all of the bigshots are really bad about this.  Adobe, AOL, Norton, Mcafee, Sun Microsystems, Google, Bing, Yahoo, EA GAMES.. they are all extremely bad.  If you recognize the name, they probably clog up the works.  The biggest offenders by far are auto-updaters, speed-loaders and tray icons.  While many have options to disable this junk they do a pretty good job at hiding it.

I run Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit.  I'm currently running 48 processes which seems high, but this includes a few for my Avast, my Audio control panel, my Logitech profiler, my Acronis (backup) services, and of course my web browser.  I could trim the fat even further but I'm happy with my gaming performance so I have no need to.  Most of the 'resource intensive' processes have already been taken care of.
Title: Re: To many processes running
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 25, 2011, 02:08:26 AM
for XP - FSAutoStart :aok


AlacrityPC took the place of FSAutoStart.... Ken Salter, the creator says that although he has not done a complete update of AlacrityPC specifically for Windows 7, it seems to work ok if used on a Windows 7 OS..... and to get started he suggest to use the Vista Default profiles to begin with..... then if you wish to tweak it more from that point on, you can create your own specific profile to use/load when you are wanting to play whatever game...etc....


CJ,  holler if you run into any problems....... but I think I covered it all pretty much in the email.... just shoot me a reply if ya need anything....

:cheers:

TC ( Johnny )


Aces High's "HomeBoy" wrote a very wonderful guide to configuring and setting up AlacrityPC for use when playing Aces High and a link to it can be found on the AlacrityPC homepage..... AlacrityPC is offered in both 32 bit & 64 bit versions...