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Title: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 23, 2011, 02:51:16 PM
Then again wow am I slow on the up take. I was going out to lunch with my Son this week. He wanted to buy me lunch for having forgotten about a dinner I made for him and his wife (Another story). I was bustling around, cleaning the house, picking up stuff, clearing out the jeep, and baking cookies. I'm on a diet and the only way I can justify eating cookies is if I have company :). So I dash to the computer room to make sure it is presentable. I see the below poster:
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Setup.jpg)

The background to the poster is I was given a key by my controller to a safe with almost nothing in it. This happened out of the blue about 7 years ago. I thought that was strange but then I was honored to be trusted. I was to keep it locked in my drawer. Because the Controller said she would need access to it I had to leave my desk drawer key on the premises. So I hid the drawer key and told her where it was at. The safe itself was in a locked room. Then later moved to a room that was open to all. Then about 1 to 2 weeks later I came in and found the above laminated poster. Apparently I forgot to lock my drawer. The controller and I were the only ones who should have known about the key but the poster was made by a financial analyst who I thought was my friend and golfing buddy. Later as I got to know him he turned out to be one of the most underhanded people I had ever worked with, so trite, so petty, and so transparent I wondered why doesn't anyone else see this. He had also worked with the Controller for 8 years prior to them coming to the company I worked at. Continuing, I couldn't find the key to the drawer. It was gone. I wanted to make some accusations at the time but was not comfortable with that. Heck maybe I forgot to lock the drawer. It was embarrassing. How could I be so lax in my duties!? I received a mild lecture from the controller. I kept the poster as a reminder to be diligent in my responsibilities.

Back to Monday and lunch with my son, I was running around frantically trying to get everything ready and scanning the computer room. When I looked at the poster I thought wow is that detailed. A very well thought out message and then the cut out letters. I thought that must have taken some time to cut out all those letters so perfectly, especially the smaller ones. It was copied and then laminated. The message itself must have taken some time to work out as well. All done after I left work at 5:30 pm. Then the lights went on, the bells rung, ding ding, click, lights on. I was set up! There must have been collusion between the Controller and the Sr. Financial Analyst. So why bring it up now. Like I said, I just figured it out. Wow am I slow!

Do I feel bad about it, nope. Will I be more cautious in the future, yes.

I through the poster away on Monday afternoon but on Tuesday I pulled it back out not as reminder to be diligent but as a reminder of how underhanded people can be.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: dedalos on March 23, 2011, 03:21:00 PM
Then the lights went on, the bells rung, ding ding, click, lights on. I was set up! There must have been collusion between the Controller and the Sr. Financial Analyst. So why bring it up now. Like I said, I just figured it out. Wow am I slow!

Do I feel bad about it, nope. Will I be more cautious in the future, yes.

I through the poster away on Monday afternoon but on Tuesday I pulled it back out not as reminder to be diligent but as a reminder of how underhanded people can be.

Little more detail there cause I am confused.  Who set you up and how does collusion between those two leads to you being set up?
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 23, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
Little more detail there cause I am confused.  Who set you up and how does collusion between those two leads to you being set up?

Maybe I was too concise. They gave me the key to a safe with almost nothing in it. It was given to me out of the clear blue. The safe was moved to a room that was open to everyone. Why didn't the controller just keep the key. They knew where the key was. The drawer key goes missing. The Financial analyst who should have nothing to do with the key knows about the key. The character of the Financial analyst reveals quite a bit here as well. The time to make the poster after working hours suggests it was pre-made. Why would you spend that much time after work doing this. The answer, it wasn't. It was anticipated.

This is all circumstantial. Mostly you would have to know the character of the people involved. They were dirty and extraordinarily manipulative people. I also believe the controller had personality issues. The financial analyst could not handle the slightest of conflicts. I could tell you a story or two about him. But I would be off the subject.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: dedalos on March 23, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Maybe I was too concise. They gave me the key to a safe with almost nothing in it. It was given to me out of the clear blue. The safe was moved to a room that was open to everyone. Why didn't the controller just keep the key. They knew where the key was. The drawer key goes missing. The Financial analyst who should have nothing to do with the key knows about the key. The character of the Financial analyst reveals quite a bit here as well. The time to make the poster after working hours suggests it was pre-made. Why would you spend that much time after work doing this. The answer, it wasn't. It was anticipated.

This is all circumstantial. Mostly you would have to know the character of the people involved. They were dirty and extraordinarily manipulative people. I also believe the controller had personality issues. The financial analyst could not handle the slightest of conflicts. I could tell you a story or two about him. But I would be off the subject.

Haha, see?  You are not the only on that is slow here  :lol  For some reason I thought that the person that gave you the key was on your side lol
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Blooz on March 23, 2011, 04:08:44 PM
That'll teach you to pay your soda bill.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 23, 2011, 04:12:20 PM
Haha, see?  You are not the only on that is slow here  :lol  For some reason I thought that the person that gave you the key was on your side lol

So true  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Shuffler on March 23, 2011, 04:44:33 PM
I've always found the criminal is the first to point fingers. They most always think others are trying to steal from them.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Dichotomy on March 23, 2011, 06:05:22 PM
Answer to your question - yes and I fell for it hard.  The good news is I know karma is a vicious and unforgiving wench and I hope to be able to see it when the protagonist runs face first into a brick wall.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Shane on March 23, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
Answer to your question - yes and I fell for it hard.  The good news is I know karma is a vicious and unforgiving wench and I hope to be able to see it when the protagonist runs face first into a brick wall.

the most important part of the story has yet to be answered....

what was in the safe?
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Dichotomy on March 23, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
It was in the library with the candlestick.  The butler is the main suspect at this time.  :D
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: BERN1 on March 23, 2011, 07:54:04 PM
wow and I thought us dumbarse bluecollar workers waisted time.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 23, 2011, 10:32:59 PM
the most important part of the story has yet to be answered....

what was in the safe?

Almost nothing. In fact it was moved to an open room later that was never locked. That was one of the clues that it was a setup. Anything by itself doesn't point to much but altogether, yes.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 23, 2011, 10:35:06 PM
Answer to your question - yes and I fell for it hard.  The good news is I know karma is a vicious and unforgiving wench and I hope to be able to see it when the protagonist runs face first into a brick wall.

Trust me you're not alone. I think like you, Karma is unforgiving and if these folks deserve justice then it will happen.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: jimson on March 23, 2011, 10:38:03 PM
I just don't get it. What am I missing?

Was this an extortion plot, an attempt to get you fired?

What was the point? and what was the end result?
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: B-17 on March 23, 2011, 11:40:05 PM
It was in the library with the candlestick.  The butler is the main suspect at this time.  :D

well, I THOUGHT it was Colonel Mustard with the...candlestick? :o
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Shane on March 24, 2011, 12:13:22 AM
I just don't get it. What am I missing?

Was this an extortion plot, an attempt to get you fired?

What was the point? and what was the end result?

the end result was the same as the point.

 :noid
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: 5anders on March 24, 2011, 01:03:55 AM
This is the most confusing thing I have read in a long time.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: 321BAR on March 24, 2011, 01:13:44 AM
is this about my M-18? :headscratch:

because i dont get it...
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I just don't get it. What am I missing?

Was this an extortion plot, an attempt to get you fired?

What was the point? and what was the end result?

+1

Motive?

Sure, you were set up, but why?

Seems rather elaborate for no point.


wrongway
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: jimson on March 24, 2011, 01:55:42 AM
So these two people cooked up an elaborate plot to give you a key to a safe containing nothing important so that one could later steal the key and place a ransom note demanding 5 euros to be put in a soda fund jar.

Ok, why did they do this? for 5 bucks?  To make you look bad so you would suffer the devastating punishment of a mild scolding?  :headscratch:

Wow, Crime of the Century!

Maybe I'm dense, but what is it I'm not getting here?
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 24, 2011, 01:56:07 AM
This is the most confusing thing I have read in a long time.  :headscratch:

Agreed. I think this is a set-up.  :noid
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: jimson on March 24, 2011, 02:02:24 AM
Agreed. I think this is a set-up.  :noid

That makes sense. Must be an elaborate plot to give me a headache  :lol
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Melvin on March 24, 2011, 02:21:41 AM
Hook, line and sinker....
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Dichotomy on March 24, 2011, 08:10:38 AM
That makes sense. Must be an elaborate plot to give me a headache  :lol

Would the application of a candlestick swung with exuberance and decent velocity be a more effective method of producing the same result?
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 24, 2011, 08:35:29 AM
I just don't get it. What am I missing?

Was this an extortion plot, an attempt to get you fired?

What was the point? and what was the end result?

I never was fired. I suppose you have to understand the character of the people involved. The controller had a personality disorder and the Financial analyst was as egotistical maniac and petty. Maybe the pettiest person I ever met. He also couldn't handle the smallest of conflicts. He was the sort of guy who could dish it out but couldn't take it. For some reason these two thought I was the stupidest person ever to come along. Trust me I'm not! I'm also an easy target. I was way overweight and I have a soft voice. Then I'm very open and often take things in stride or let slights go. Hence it started out as teasing and fun. Then taunting and later it turned ever more vicious.

There are two other characters involved in this, the President and the Vice President of finance. Now some of this is conjecture. However there were signs all along the way that pointed to how the president and VP played a role. The president was the type of guy that when you did something good he wouldn't say it to you. He would turn to those that should have thought of it and say, "Why didn't you think of that?" Always accusatory.

The VP was a setup artist himself. He once told me to raise the credit limit of a company that was going bankrupt. I said are you sure?! He said go ahead and I will send you an email confirming it. Well Okay??? No email came. We had several large customers in the steel industry who were filing bankruptcy. Later I was called into the office for raising the limit by my then controller, a woman I liked. She said I know he told you. I said yes he did. He peaked his head over my cubicle and told me and I questioned it. Well you better go talk to him. So I did. He said did I send you an email to verifying I told you. Well uh, no. He then said well then I didn't tell you. Wow! Later I was searching our customer base and found a letter the VP had written to the parent company. It said "while things were bad because of major customers filling bankruptcy (USXet. al.) it could have been much worse. Fortunately I caught where we had raised the credit limit of an insolvent customer by $200,000." He set me up as a scape goat to save his tail. Then of course to make things complete I had to be disciplined. Probably the parent company wanted me fired. I know how these people think.

The VP also hired the new Controller, with the personality disorder, and the ego maniac Senior financial analyst. They fit right in with his personality. Both of them had worked together at the same company for years prior to coming to my company. I have always wondered if their former company manipulated circumstances to get rid of these two.

If you understand the characters then you will understand the reason for the set up. At the time I was coming into my own. The company asked for suggestions to cut costs. I came up with a great catch. Someone had misclassified (my controller, the insane one) a phone bill into my electric account. I knew it wasn't the right account because I was familiar with the vendor numbers and the number was much smaller than the usual amounts. So I go to the vendor files to look it up. This was during the same period as the key incident. Taking a look at the bill I was stunned at what I saw. We were paying 98 cents per minute for long distance charges! The average rate at the time was 5 cents. I though oh man!, we can cut some costs here. So I started looking at the other phone bills. As it turned out we were paying on average 100% more than current rates. Then I looked at the I.T. lines. It was the same. So I researched and gathered information to support my position.

Now you get an award for cost cutting suggestions. I was giddy about it. Other people involved will get a smaller award. I thought this was a great opportunity to show the insane controller I was a team player and get some points. Well that didn't work out at all. When I told her about the suggestion and tried to bring her in on it she screamed at me. I mean screamed. I really don't know why. I theorize she realized that she had been signing a bill that she hadn't really looked at.

Then I told the ego maniac about my findings. Thinking at the time he was my friend and golfing buddy. He went nuts as well. He did what I began calling his Darth Vader imitation, Lower his voice and octave and raising the volume. He then said something I will never forget. "This is just normal course of business." That came back to bite me. Now I turned the suggestion in anyway and was anticipating an award and a pat on the back. Neither happened. After a good while I inquired about the suggestion. As it turned out the ego maniac had the ear of the president, they said no award because "This was the normal course of business." There was another suggestion within that suggestion as well. One that most would not think of I believe. I said ask for that money back on the account that charged 98 cents per minute. They did and received cash back in the amount of $7,000. They also ended up saving $63,000 per year in phone and I.T. line charges.

Later I caught where the controller had dropped off accounts she didn't understand. One was the 100% deductible account. If a company buys a meal on the premises for the employees and for the employer's convenience it is 100% deductible for tax purposes. If it is outside the office or company grounds it is only 50% deductible. So I researched the IRS code and showed her this. Those accounts were added. It further changed the way the company did their employee meetings and outings. I had good word the latter suggestion seeped up to the VP and President. They started holding employee picnics at company sites instead of at the zoo or some other off site location.

Then one day I caught were they were using the freight-in account for courier service to HQ. Now for those not familiar with accounting Freight-in is an inventory account. That means it goes into the cost of inventory and thus reduces profit per unit sold. It makes a difference believe it or not. So I pointed that out in a humble way and very indirectly since I had to walk on egg shells all the time.

Also during the same period I noticed that expenses would be debited and credited at the same time, thus adding an expense and then removing the expense. What the heck! Then when it was paid it would reappear. It was like cash basis accounting instead of the accrual method. Cash basis is what you use for your personal checking account but not suitable for business under General Accepted Accounting Principals. (Our guidelines). So I investigated it by comparing good entries to the bad entries. Then I looked at the vendors associated with both the good and bad entries. During this I recalled they had moved a new person to the front desk where one of her responsibilities was to set up new vendors. Well she was entering the expense account twice instead of an expense account and a liability account. The liability account affects the balance sheet and the expense account affects the income statement. So with permission I go to her and explain the difference. When I told the insane controller this she was stunned. So she wouldn't scream at me I took my friend, the former controller, into the office with me. You could tell she wanted to scream and yet you could see her self reflecting. Neither of those two knew how to fix it. I suggested I could do a reversing entry so the balance sheet was correct this month and not overstated next month. So we went with that.

Again during this period, I was given the task to make sure the balance sheet accounts were correctly coded. As it turns out Purchasing didn't have a clue about the new accounts. So after month end closing, where I spent a huge amount of time correcting the coding, I asked for permission to work with purchasing on account classification. I was able to reduce the number of errors from 5 pages to about 3 errors per month. This caused a rift as well with the new controller. How was I so able to convince these folks to do this?! Why didn't she think of it? As it turns out purchasing was full of great people who wanted to do a great job. So it was easy.

Then their was schooling. I was working on my Masters at the time. It had to appear them I was the most ambitious employee on the planet. It was well known I was working on my Masters to sit for the CPA exam. Which I did and passed last year.

All during this period the attacks on me by the controller became more vicious and almost daily. Never ever a good word. I was beat up beyond belief. My raises were half of that of the other employees. I was insulted in front of everyone in the office time and time again. None of the insults were explained or had merit. Just blind sided attacks.

So in short the reason for the setup was jealousy. I was running circles around these people. Honestly I never thought about it at the time. My thinking was that I was doing good for the company. They on the other hand took it personal.


Am I bitter ex-employee. Yes I think so. I was actually over it until Monday when I realized what had happened. I'll move on again. I have quite a few accomplishments whether they were recognized or not.

Apologies for the length folks. I was trying to make the original concise.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: 5anders on March 24, 2011, 01:22:32 PM
you need a tl;dr  :lol

I guess it makes a little more sense now, I think?  Sounds more like a practical joke between friends than anything though.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Vudu15 on March 24, 2011, 02:19:14 PM
Getback find one of what you would consider to be one of your less intelligent friends to type your next post of what I guess to be a joke at the office because that was probably one of the hardest conversations to follow that Ive had in some time.

Not being mean but you started like in the middle of the story and used terms that I was unfamiliar with like "controller" controller of what the keys?

anyhow uh yea dont do whatever it was you weren't supposed to do and have a nice day.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: dedalos on March 24, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
Getback find one of what you would consider to be one of your less intelligent friends to type your next post of what I guess to be a joke at the office because that was probably one of the hardest conversations to follow that Ive had in some time.

Not being mean but you started like in the middle of the story and used terms that I was unfamiliar with like "controller" controller of what the keys?

anyhow uh yea dont do whatever it was you weren't supposed to do and have a nice day.

lol, you don;t know what a controller is for real?
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 24, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
you need a tl;dr  :lol

I guess it makes a little more sense now, I think?  Sounds more like a practical joke between friends than anything though.

That's what I thought at first, a practical joke. Like I said. You have to know the character of the people involved. The controller had no sense of humor, None, nada, and was spiteful. The Financial Analyst pulled his Darth Vader routine often out of the blue. Something wrong with him too. I was on the golf course with him and a buddy one day. He was playing terribly. I offered some advice (I use to be pretty good). He lowered his voice an octave and raised the volume to snap at me. I was tired of it. I told him his Darth Vader imitation was weak. He went ballistic and threatened to kick my azz. All 125 lbs of him. LOL. I just looked at him, he stopped about 40 ft away. You could see his eyes darting for an answer and his face swelled to near twice it's normal size. I will never forget that. That was the day I realized there was truly something wrong with this guy. I didn't want this story to get too long and it has. I could write a book about this guy alone. The incident I referred to is only one there were dozens involving this guy and dozens with the controller. Some very underhanded incidents. Oh, and this guy said integrity meant something to him. LOL.

A controller is a hands on Accounting manager. I suppose if an engineer told a story I would be lost too. Though I have worked closely with engineers and they are fascinating individuals.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Sonicblu on March 26, 2011, 03:58:54 PM
Yes I was setup on a date.

Been married 16 years and get lots of.............s :x

Way less drama then you and you aren't  getting any.

I feel bad for you. Go fly more hehe. :airplane: :D
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Vudu15 on March 26, 2011, 04:20:05 PM
lol, you don;t know what a controller is for real?

must be an echo in this place I understand it has something to do with the story and his job. no I'm unaware what the "controller" is in this story.
You know sir you dont have to be so demeaning with your comments. everyone knows something no one knows everything. even though some folks tend to believe they do.
If I started an obscure story with terms that were everyday for me you yourself might be tryin to guess what I'm talking about even though it might be something routine for me.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Getback on March 26, 2011, 05:25:21 PM
must be an echo in this place I understand it has something to do with the story and his job. no I'm unaware what the "controller" is in this story.
You know sir you dont have to be so demeaning with your comments. everyone knows something no one knows everything. even though some folks tend to believe they do.
If I started an obscure story with terms that were everyday for me you yourself might be tryin to guess what I'm talking about even though it might be something routine for me.

I agree, can't know everything.

I not the drama queen here. In fact I've wondered if those two have watched too many soap operas. To me the incident was a learning experience. I have always believed in good team work and in most places I work I have made the team better and have been told so. Several times I was given a mild warning about this stuff from, not ironically, a friend of this guy. Wish I would have asked who he was referring to. LOL.

Oh well it's history and a lesson learned.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: Vudu15 on March 26, 2011, 09:05:53 PM
I was just sayin I didnt understand the setting of the story and some of the aspects, obviously you got what you needed to learn.
Its just the way you told the story that confused me....come to think of it I still have no idea what you were really talkin about except perhaps an elaborate office prank.
Title: Re: Ever been setup!?
Post by: -tronski- on March 27, 2011, 03:00:10 AM
So the fat controller and snoop dog tried to extort $5 euro out of you???

 Trosnky