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Title: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 24, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Quiet running with dual vapor cooling the latest GTX 590 dual gpu is now the fastest (and quietest) single card solution on the planet.

I will be putting the Classified Quad SLI system into a P67 SLI MB and I will let you know how it does.

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=03G-P3-1598-A2
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Kazaa on March 24, 2011, 06:22:59 PM
£1,200 for two of these... I wish I had your money.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: cattb on March 24, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
depending what a person reads the 6990 is just as fast , but not as quiet.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Spikes on March 24, 2011, 07:45:11 PM
You get new video cards every 2 weeks. Can I have your 460s?
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 24, 2011, 09:48:58 PM
depending what a person reads the 6990 is just as fast , but not as quiet.

Only in applications that cannot make use of FSAA or SLI...

(EDIT:) Scratch that... I dont believe its 'just as fast' at all.

Another preview:

http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/03/the-geforce-gtx-590-has-arrived/?sf1229809=1
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: cattb on March 25, 2011, 07:31:01 PM
Reviews I have read, and only a couple, say its  as fast, close to equal. 
Also there is the details ,system the card is tested on, type of test, type of benchmarking, and so on. These details can change the output (or benchmarking)of a card very fast.

I was thinking of a new video card and still am. I was looking at the 460 vs 6850. There is so many charts and benchmarks, some say the 6850 is better, then others say the 460 is better, while some say they are about equal.

Actually as far as the nvidia vs ati and which cards are better I could care less. I think the same way as the Intel vs AMD.
Whatever trips your trigger.
Good luck with your new cards.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 25, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
Well... after going through the reviews of a single 590 with the reference drivers indicate that even a single 580 (and even 570) can outperform the card and that SLI setups leave it far behind. This seems to indicate that the drivers are not yet optimized. In fact you can only preorder the SLI version so it must be that the drivers are not ready for SLI either (or so it seems). At any rate the design specifications of this card have not been met so there is no point in rushing to conclusions.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 26, 2011, 02:45:44 AM
Not everyone seems so impressed Chalenge.

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The Bottom Line
The value of the GeForce GTX 590 is questionable. It costs within $10 of the Radeon HD 6990 at $710 (depending on street prices), but we have seen more than not the Radeon HD 6990 offers better performance at that price. The Radeon HD 6990 also has more RAM with 2GB available per GPU, already putting the GTX 590 at a disadvantage. You basically get less memory for the same price with the GTX 590.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/03/24/asus_geforce_gtx_590_video_card_review/9

Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 26, 2011, 04:07:00 AM
Only in applications that cannot make use of FSAA or SLI...

(EDIT:) Scratch that... I dont believe its 'just as fast' at all.

Another preview:

http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/03/the-geforce-gtx-590-has-arrived/?sf1229809=1

So you include an nvidia blog as unbiased reference?  :rofl
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 26, 2011, 04:12:01 AM
No Ripley. I referenced that so you could see directly what the manufacturers are saying. My trusted source is always Anandtech and I think you know that.

Yes its true that each individual will have to decide how much overclocking they will have to do to achieve the speed they want for the amount of noise they are willing to put up with. Its been clear since they were first announced that these cards would be nearly silent and that the performance was reined in. Overclocking tools are included with the cards (I will probably custom modify mine from the beginning). There wont be a whole lot of these cards around and you really have to be an enthusiast to even want one but I think when everything is said and done they will be a powerful tool for serious gaming. Most people should wait for the next generation and skip this one.

Also... who are they kidding with the 4GB versus 3GB comparison? We all know that none of these cards are referencing enough memory to need 4GB.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 26, 2011, 04:21:38 AM
No Ripley. I referenced that so you could see directly what the manufacturers are saying. My trusted source is always Anandtech and I think you know that.

Also... who are they kidding with the 4GB versus 3GB comparison? We all know that none of these cards are referencing enough memory to need 4GB.


Quote from Anandtech:

Quote
For every game that makes the GTX 590 glow like Civlizaiton V there is a game like STALKER that more than wipes out any kind of trend. The GeForce GTX lineup simply gets manhandled here, making the 6990 the easy victor. We’ve seen STALKER be both shader and memory bound in the past, and it’s likely that’s what’s happening here. This is the most conclusive proof yet that 1.5GB of RAM per GPU may come up a bit short for the GTX 590, in which case if NVIDIA ever does a 3GB GTX 590 performance here should improve. In the meantime even a hefty overclock can’t get the GTX 590 to within 10fps of the stock 6990.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 26, 2011, 03:19:05 PM
Yes I read it and it is a bit odd that something could be 'likely' and 'conclusive' both dont you think? Its the same issue we have seen in the past when something new like this comes along the drivers need to catch up. Too late anyway Ripley. Your arguing against something to probably the only person in AH to actually buy them and they are already shipped.  :D
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Pudgie on March 26, 2011, 05:09:38 PM
Hey Chalenge,

Give me some feedback on their performance, please?

I like the fact that Nvidia has reverted to the center single fan over the squirrel cage (a LOT quieter!) & they are very appeasing to look at!

I might jump for a single 590 when I upgrade from my current setup.

 :salute
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 26, 2011, 05:09:58 PM
Yes I read it and it is a bit odd that something could be 'likely' and 'conclusive' both dont you think? Its the same issue we have seen in the past when something new like this comes along the drivers need to catch up. Too late anyway Ripley. Your arguing against something to probably the only person in AH to actually buy them and they are already shipped.  :D

Well hey it's your money.. :)
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 26, 2011, 05:26:47 PM
Hey Chalenge,

Give me some feedback on their performance, please?

I will but... given the fact the P67 isnt out yet and that these are limited in available quantities it will likely be too late to buy one by the time I finish putting that system together.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: cattb on March 26, 2011, 10:34:48 PM
While nvidia might make the cards, gtx 590 in limited quantitiy. Nvidia will come out with a second edition or bigger better model anyhow.

these are limited in available quantities  
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 26, 2011, 11:30:42 PM
Yes... the next generation (Kepler) is due out sometime in December (give or take).
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on March 31, 2011, 05:39:04 PM
I have them mounted in the X58 MB for tomorrow nights FSO. I have tried a couple of games at 7680x1600 2xAA 4xAF without issue. I prefer just one monitor for AH which is what I intend for FSO. I ran two tests with these cards. The first test was on a Socket 775 system with the Q9650 MB and using 3D Mark 11 I got something in the P8000 range. The second test with the X58 system and an i7 975 Extreme hit into the P9600 range. I understand the Sandy Bridge systems are hitting into the P15000 range so I am anxious to see that MB arrive! These were just quick tests without a lot of tweaking.

The best side is the internal case temperatures are way down and noise levels are nonexistant but obviously thats not worth the cost involved.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: ACE on March 31, 2011, 09:21:46 PM
See Rules #2, #4
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on April 01, 2011, 12:22:30 AM
See Rules #2, #4
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Yenny on April 04, 2011, 05:27:31 PM
Yep bough it for my new rig this weekend.

Asus Rampage III Extreme mobo
Eva GTX 590
I7 3.2ghz
8 gig ddr3 corsair vengence ram
some other stuff
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on April 04, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
Still waiting on NON-reference drivers. 267.91 is a lot better than the ones shipped with the card but you can still see microstutters in some places like when zooming in on terrain features near enemy strats in AH. Im sure they will get it sorted.
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: delta7 on April 05, 2011, 07:50:26 PM
New drivers out.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-270.51-beta-driver.html
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Yenny on April 05, 2011, 10:46:27 PM
still doesn't fix problem w/ Surround 3D or 2D for my Nvidia GTX 590 =./
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Chalenge on April 06, 2011, 05:02:53 AM
Did you post for support about the problem?
Title: Re: Fastest Dual GPU just got faster
Post by: Yenny on April 06, 2011, 11:02:33 AM
Haven't got time yet, will sometime today hopefully.