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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kieren on June 23, 2000, 11:46:00 PM
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It is not my wish to cause discord.
I am not posting a "goodbye".
But something is making it difficult to fly anymore, something that is difficult, if possible at all, to fix.
It's us.
We seem to have so many people now with such huge egos that they cannot allow themselves to be shot down without derogatory statements made to the "offending party". Read the open buffer. "somebody just got me this way and that is lame", "that guy got me, and I flew a half hour to get there and that's not fair!", "I had a great streak going and got shot by someone I didn't see!"...
In this game people live and die (virtually). Sometimes it's fun no matter which way it is, but more often lately it is just the same process-
"server:kill of XXX awarded to YYY"
"XXX: that was a lame-a** move, YYY!"
It didn't used to be this way. It doesn't have to be this way. Yet, every day my faith that it will get better dims further. Playing the game is no longer play for me, it is a test to see if I can hold my tongue against the personalities. This is a battle I feel I am losing. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
The pity is I love the software, I love the direction of development, and HTC has shown nothing but class after this latest release (which was largely met with grumbles and discord). I have to wonder what keeps them going sometimes...
It may be I am not cut out for online gaming, because if this is what I am to expect, then I really am not interested. I can remember when a good fight was met with a S! and swapping versions of the fight over the buffer in a friendly fashion. I can't remember the last time I had that type of exchange with anyone (other than a H2H duel with By-Tor, hearty S! to you!).
Maybe this is only my perception of the state of our community- I sure hope so. Maybe this feeling will pass. Right now I am one disillusioned member of the community... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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i think i know what are you talking about and feel the same sometimes. i hope things 'll get better, but everyone who feels the same must working on it
keep the faith (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<S>
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bikekil
308 (Polish) Squadron RAF "City of Cracow"
(http://www.raf303.org/308/308banner.gif)
....come and get it
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Kieren,
We don't all behave that way. At least I like to think I am a "good sport" more often than not. In fact, I was flying a 109F4 for the first time the other night and had gotten myself into trouble and was running from a Spit, when out of the sun (almost literally) came another Spit. This second Spit zoomed up behind me and in desperation I made a feeble attempt at a scissors which almost worked. Very soon after, I found myself watching pieces of my airplane tumbling through the sky. "Nice kill!" I said on channel 100. The victor replied something to the effect of "nice scissors maneuver". And the conversation went on. To make a long story short, I had a nice chat with the other pilot and got some good pointers on flying the 109F4. Something I'll remember for a long time and one of the things I enjoy most about this game and some of the people who play it.
Come to think of it, I think the other pilot's handle was "Kieren", but I could be mistaken. If my memory is right, thanks for the conversation and the pointers. If not, thanks, anyway, for caring enough to make this post. Someone had to say it and I think you said it very well!
Cya up ther behind me!
buhdman, out
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Walt (buhdman) Barrow
(formerly lt-buhd-lite)
The Buccaneers - "Return with Honor"
home.earthlink.net/~wjbarrow
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Originally posted by Kieren:
We seem to have so many people now with such huge egos that they cannot allow themselves to be shot down without derogatory... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Many of us find it hard to accept that ANY time we get shot down,WE are at fault!.Regardless of E-states,plane types,if you die-you screwed up.That becomes easier to swallow as you come to realize that the competition in AH is VERY stiff!Let em whine.
Perhaps you could use a break from the arena and concentrate on 1 vs 1 for a spell?
I know first-hand you are 1 of the finest pilots out there and anyone takin offense to being bested by you (or anyone else)needs to chill and enjoy the sim for what it is.ICQ me anytime,my ego can handle the sharp learning curve! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Cheers,
By-Tor
[This message has been edited by By-Tor (edited 06-24-2000).]
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BTW Kieren, thx for the help when I was on-line the other night -I appreciate it.
TBH, It cracks me up when someone loses it on me because I just shot them down - of course I don't take it personally, I just know it sux to die (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I know where you're coming from kieren. Unfortunately this game has a lot of loosers playing it. No offense HTC, facts are facts. There are some guys who are decent sticks in the MA who are total d*ckheads whenever they die. They blow up on the open channel one minute, apologize the next, then blow up again. I'm sick and damn tired of hearing their BS myself (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). Yeah, I know, .squelch
'em, that gets old.
We all know who they are. They know who they are. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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i understand where you are coming from. as i too often get the same crap at times. i just do my best to tell someone nice kill if thry get me, and ignore the ones that whine when i kill them. i get killed alot as im just barely average and its rare i squeak about it. i wish more people where like that.
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jcy19 | ||AirWolves| |
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I always try and say nice fight to everyone, if it was a nice fight. And if I fly the Cannon Hawg and pull a HO, so far nobody has begrudged me it.
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/aces/test2.jpg)
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Keiren
If it is going to wreck the game for guys of the quality of you I will certainly think again before I tell torque that I wished his head would explode...
I dont get much of that myself. I am probably not a good enough stick to supprise or upset anyone. Just a meat and potatoas kind of pilot.
But thanks for the wake up call.
I for one would really miss ya.
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I die alot, but I have never even been tempted to blow up in the game. Sometimes I'll give a S!, or say Nice kill, or maybe just get another kite. The way I see it is that the goal of the game is to shoot down opposing players. No matter how good you are (and I'm not very good), somebody will get you some time. Just shrug it off and get a new ride. There aren't any grand prizes for being in first place on the score board here.
S! to all of those who've shot me down 'cause not one of you was condesending or mean about it. Thanks.
Sisu
-Karnak
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Nah.. Kieren... Yer one of the good guys. Yer staying put. Er... I don't exactly have the authority to make such an order, but... if I find out you are serious enough about this, I will definately write an email to Caveman and make a request that he order it so (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Uhm... what were we.. oh yah.. Forget about the whiners. I think you need to put this into perspective a bit... Here's a couple of ways I look at it.
1) If someobody squeakes that ya kilt him... well..he IS the enemy, right? Ya shot him down. He's upset? Good. This doesn't go for most of the people I run into... I usually have a great deal of respect for the guys I tangle with.... but... If some guy resorts to bein' some kinda popsicle about it on #1... Take solace in the fact that ya planted his arse, have a good chuckle about his angst, and move on.
2) This is important...
Some knuckle-headed LOSERS onna 2 week stint start bawlin' on open channel about (really) the fact that their own hamfisted pathetic dweebishness landed them a one way ticket to tower...
while...
You have a great appreciation of the art of ACM, the history of air war, a love of the simulations that allow us to experience these things... and are a RESPECTED member as well as an outstanding CONTRIBUTER to this community....
And it's YOU who's leaving?
Nah... just aint right. Sorry but I refuse to accept that.
Yer stayin' put. Or else I'm telling Cave (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I hear you Kieren.
I use the .squelch 1 as standart setup when entering the arena.Saves you for 90% of the bs + the buffer really scrolls too fast for my old brain allready ;=)
Backside is of course that you miss all the fun on ch 1.
danish
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Aside from giveing 6 calls I stopped talking for the most part. sadly it was worth it.
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Hi folks,
Just this morning, before writing this, I was verbally assaulted on open channel and taunted repeatedly by a certain pilot with a reputation as a hot stick. After I told him I dont talk trash several times he continued the abuse. I told him on pvt. channel after a while fighting him(flying)that I tended to value my reputation as a human being over that of being a great pilot. I am sure that you feel the same,kierin, having observed your behavior in the arena and I believe most others do as well. It is shame that this type of behavior can be so damaging to one's enjoyment of this game we all love but alas, sometimes it is so. It's up to all of us to uphold those standards which we respect and value for ourselves first and by example second. That's about all you can do sometimes and I have certainly been known to fall short of my own expectation on occasion. I hope you find the game compelling enough to continue being yourself and enjoying that. Cya up!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
kbman
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Kieren, i have two thinks to say:
1. War is war!
In RL is rare to find people loosing without whining and accusing you to be someway a cheater and giving you a <S>, even if you was correct, so why you are so surprised to find people acting the same in MA?
I know i'm not a good pilot, and if someone kill me while ditching, or engine off, or in other not sporty way, i dont care, cause war is war, and is a dirty affair, no rules, you have to kill or to be killed, and i'll do the same next time (except kill chutes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)).
You may say this is no war, is a sim, yes, but is a WARsim, so we have to simulate the unfair too, someone whine about this? they have to play chess (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif).
So, if someone is upset the way you killed him, just say "war is war, baby (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)". period.
2. Mind state.
Sometime the way you are feeling in a precise moment, give you different meanings to words you hear.
Yesterday night, i was vulching 18 in a b26, a jug take off, i set a nice attack, shoot him with my 6 0.50, lot of flashes, nothing... 2 mins later, another or the same jug attack my six, i shooted him, he was between the smoke (my fps was 2-3), again lot of flashes on him, a short burst from his fiftyes, and i was in twr.
I was surprised, and say in pub ch : "p47 is invulnerable!!".
He answer: "you dont hit me".
I say: "strange, i see a lot of flashes on you, mmmm".
I was just wondering if was rubber bullet prob, or a fh prob, or who know...
But if the guy was upset, he can misunderstand my words as accuse of cheating, or not saying truth.
Sometime you have to stop, and think if there are other meanings to words the other say, may be they want just know what mistake they did.
And if there are no other options, if is just a looser whinig, let him cry, and follow your path, you are a great pilot, and you know it.
Who cares about dweebs crying?
<S>
Naso
alias
target drone (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hey Kieren,
I hear ya. The arena can get real juvenile sometimes, and when it's particularly trying I just squelch 1 from the get-go.
There'll always be people with little or no character, but they come and go. You, however, are a part of what makes this community what it is, and because of that I hope you'll reconsider.
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Kieren,
It's not going to get any better by having all the good sports(yourself included) leave. We have to stick together and fight the "Ego Horde"(tm).
I feel exactly the same way that you do, but I gave it some thought, and decided that I'm not going to let some juvenile jerks ruin a fantastic game.
You have always been a good person, both online and on this board. I for one value you as a member of this community, and even though I haven't ever encountered you in the air yet, I look forward to being able to S! you after you shoot me down. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
As my squaddie Bike Killa said, "Keep the faith". Let's keep the faith together.
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[This message has been edited by banana (edited 06-24-2000).]
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Kieren
Point # 1. Read all the above, shake well, add ice and pour yourself a cup every night before entering arena. I'm serious here!
Doctors orders!
Point #2 Was made above in about 15 diff ways. No one likes to admit to himself that he sucks as a pilot. Yet death means that we just blew it! Yes some people have a problem dealing with this. Personally when I get frustrated I log, no goodbyes, no nothing.
Just alt + F4 & BAM I'm outa there & it's time to cool off.
Not everyone is so wise it seems. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
However, don't let THEIR problems get to you!
Point #3, HTC because of it's 2 week free trial has a never ending stream of dweebs.
Most of these now arriveing have no clue how to behave online it seems. Ignore em if they whine, they'll learn faster!
As to the current level of whineing about the game itself, bugs, problems etc. All I can say is that whenever talking to HT & co I do my best not to whine. Lord knows they have the patience of saints. I try my absolute level best to keep it upbeat, positive, and respectfull. As a result most times if I watch my timeing I'll get an answer from HT.
It all comes down to a couple simple things.
Respect for your fellow man. If you want some you'll have to earn it, However, you owe it to them right from the start. Thats the way it is.
Consideration for the other guys feelings.
Chances are whatever your about to say you've had said to you. How did it make YOU feel?
Are you still POSITIVE you need to say it to him? How will it make HIM feel?
Last, some people won't get the hint no matter what. So every time you kill them they'll whine, call you cheater, lame, stupid, whatever. You just need to learn to tune them out. They really are not worth your time, trouble, & injured feelings.
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Maj Ghosth
XO 332nd Flying Mongrels
(http://www.ropescourse.org/cghosth.jpg)
[This message has been edited by Ghosth (edited 06-24-2000).]
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Kieren, I've felt that too. Most of WB/Ah guys often told bad things about AW3 and how $10 flat rate was bringing Quake's kids in the sim. When I arrived here for the first time, a friend warn me about the athmosphere here way different than the AW3 FR (don't know for ohers).
One of my first kill in here was a AH famous and well ranked pilot (wich I will not name because we learned to respect each other later)...
I went on him in a P38, missed him, turned back, bleed all my E, barrely was able to bring the nose back to him while stalling.... pingpingpingcrack (TM)(C)... YES YES YES... my first kill in AH... Wohooo! The guy said on chanel one something like : 'Vulcher!'... Awsome, that ruined my first kill.
BTW, it wasn't a vulch because I was so dweeb that I bleed all my E and was stalling. Every arena has his whiners but here in AH it's more than everywhere, between the Dweebs who just came in and argue on how the planes behaves and the veterans who are frustrated because you shot them...Geez.
And of course, they are all the others who take the things as they come, shoot and kill in silence while the victim complains 'hey! I was typing'. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
You don't want to die gangbanged, take a pony or BF109G10, climb from a rear base to 25K, B&Z, go below 15K only to outrun a 27K Zero and land.
My fun is more taking off from fields under attack and defend them, my k/d ratio proving it.
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Olivier "Frenchy" Raunier
(http://home.cfl.rr.com/rauns/SFRT-AH-LOGO.jpg)
[This message has been edited by SFRT - Frenchy (edited 06-24-2000).]
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Kieren,
Easy .squelch radio 1
Sharky
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Playboy Leader
307th FS/31st FG
You can run but ya just die tired
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Kieren,
I hear ya. When it gets a little bit too much I just squelch 1. It helps. I may miss some of the greetings from some friends from the dark sides, but the squelch helps.
Cobra
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I don't think he was talking about the 2 week crowd who we all diss,ignore or aid depending on mood, He was in fact, talking about the "old hands" the guys who are acknowledged to be good,yet for some reason,some of them tend to preceive any dent in the armor of their "experten" aura has a malicious attack and respond in text with less than grace, Last night I was flying
(As Wert again) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and encountered Roper who proceeded to pull my lil LA5 into all kinds of E bleeding moves (yeah I tried ta follow like a good little dweeb) wallowing nose high at 90 knots I see him turn in for the kill, my choices were simple, drop my nose for an HO, or bail out. I went for the attack and got a nasty present in the form of a hit in the head, but not before I sawed his wing off. Afterward on Ch 1 I apologized for the HO, but pointed out that he had left me nothing better, he responded that he thought that, and we had a friendly conversation. This in response to one of the worst dweeb moves around. It leads me to one conclusion, Class either ya have it, or ya don't, <S> Roper, a damn good pilot, and a lot of class. Nobody who feels things are getting ugly should leave, we make them clean up the act, or THEY can leave. It's our game, HTC makes it, but we play here, and no one is running me off this playground, understand?
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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
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Why cut your nose off to spite your face? Don't let a guy having a bad day make you quit, and even if you did it will happen in any sim you play, it did in WB and I'm sure it will happen in WW2OL. Some people start 'living' the sim and perhaps their anger is not really directed at you but you just happen to be an outlet for their anger against themselves for being shot down.
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Ahhh,....quit ur sissy bellybutton whinin' and get back into ur plane mister, we got a war to win!!
CRASH
[This message has been edited by CRASH (edited 06-24-2000).]
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Reaper talking (http://pages.hotbot.com/games/davekirk/images/reaper.ra)
The realclip I linked to in this post maybe a good idea, how about we disable a player's comm for a minute or two following his death.
(http://pages.hotbot.com/games/davekirk/images/Mil.jpg)
The Great Milenko (http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/rowgue/milenko.ra)
You can kill me can't ya? (http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/rowgue/killsomeone.ra)
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.squelch 1
.squelch name
Do not leave, game is so great that all other things are just a shadows in a sun (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And yes, buy yourself a cat, and kick it offline to calm down. I know, Hang does it always, that is why he is so friendly (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Fariz
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This post as are all my posts is unecessary. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) That said...Keiren, I have the utmost respect for you and sypathize with your plight. Personally, I usually do a mental ".squelch" most of my time flying. I pay most attention to the squad text and after that local and country text. Every once in a while I'll catch a blurb on open ch.
I think I've restricted my whining on the open channel to choice comments about chute shooters, that being my pet peeve. For all you AH flyers, If ya catch me whinin please ignore me, it usually meens that my ex. has pissed in my cornflakes yet again. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
On another note(read whine); my current A#1 peeve to pet is kill thiefs. My countrymen who seem to think that ANYTHING not ground clutter is a fair target. I've let loose a few choice ones fer that offence, at some who are considered "SH pilots". On a couple occasions lately I've de-winged aircraft and pulled off, only to see someone else swoop in a take the kill just before he hits the dirt. Not cool guys. If it flutters like a leaf, its prolly already dead. One such person who was not named, after realizing what he'd done, pulled off of the next kill and let me have it. I thought that was very classy. <nuff said>
In the future I'll try to keep my mouth shut to insure I don't stick my great ol' big foot in it and let the chips fall as they may.
Liz out
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Kieren;
Odd to see your post here, considering the discussion we had last night in the MA. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
For some reason I have let frustration creep into my mind concerning AH. Then for some silly other reason I am letting this bleed over into my interactions with my fellow players.
For example, in the MA I am doing crazy stuff like taking intentional HO's and enjoying it. Then I am sometimes accusing other players of dweebery because I am fully aware of what a sensitve subject it is. I completely realize that I am the one playing the dweeb and that I am doing this just for the fun of it.
For some even crazier reason, I had thought that you and I had some remote familiarity with each other and that my dubious comment would be more or less funny. My comment to you, from my perpective, was really quite good natured. I had thought you might consider the situation comical and my comment only adding to your delight.
However; I realize that I just simply added just another straw to your poor camel's tired back.
So sorry... I grovel at your feet to be forgiven. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"Though some art vets, all art dweebish"
Jedi
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Keiren, while I have never had the oppertunity to be pitted against you (thank god, according to the other posters about your skills), I have always found your postings on the BB to exude class.
It would be a shame to lose such a class act.
Maybe another perspective is in order Keiren. Look at it this way; If the whiners manage to run off all the class players, they win.
Now, mind you, I am about as competitive as it gets, and I simply refuse to allow whiners, poor sports, or any other person of that ilk to run me off from the game.
I will not allow them to win in this manner. If they cannot beat me in the air, they certainly will not beat me on the radio.
I also will not allow anyone to pull me to thier level. I am better than that, and if I allow them to pull me to thier level, I have become no better than they are.
Personally, I find the insults and fighting on the public channel between pilots quite funny. If they could stand back and see what they are doing, they would feel pretty small,...if they have any class or dignity in them at all.
My 2 cents worth...
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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
President, AppLink Corp.
http://www.applink.net
skuzzy@applink.net
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Like sand through an hourglass, these are the days of our lives.
Thats all I gotta say bout that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Yeager
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LOL Fariz..
My cat REALLY hates this sim. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I kinda like it.. and the hell wit the cat. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Kieren.. things are as they are.. as they will be; as they have been regarding anal howling in the text box.
I consider those guys that howl to be an added bonus.. and give myself (and the cat) a pat on the back when I shoot 'em down. Consider them bonus point pilots.. and buy yerself a beer for every one shot outta the sky.
Hang 'Engage the enemy; not the keyboard'
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Well Kieren,
First I just want to say how thankful I am for all the of the help you have given me, and thank you for being my friend. I understand what you are saying about these people, as I explain in the 32 kills topic. But I am just going to say something, even if you aren't going to leave Aces High. The fact of the matter is, if you leave, then we have lost another one of the good guys, the good guys who make online gaming fun. If we lose another good guy, then that is making more room for bad guys. I know you have been a great role model for me, and I just hope that you stay in Aces High, because I know I have had fun gaming with you. You were my trainer, and you helped me a lot. Although I haven't come across you in the Main Arena, I know one day I will, and I think this time man I can take you down. Hehe. That was a joke. And when you kill another bad guy and he makes those remarks like they do so often, just smile as his plane spins to the ground, and you can see his shoot open from the clouds, because that is why I think this game is so darn fun. I look forward to flying 1 vs. 1 again.
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Well here is my 2 cents.
I have been with Aces High since beta 1, I started as BenDover, I got into a fight with a P51 I was in a B17. I had dropped all of my bombs and was using my bomber as a fighter. Well I hit the P51 but he got the best of me and I bailed out. As I was hanging in my chute the 51 turned and shot me. IT PISSED ME OFF! I started squeaking and moaning to no end, talking trash about the pilot that killed me. About two days later I was flying and someone brought up the pilot’s name, and I was off again. Then to my surprise I found that pilot had changed sides and joined the Knights, I was a Knight, and told me he also hated that guy. It was at that moment that I realized that this was just for fun. I took a good look at myself and found out that I was the handsomehunk. That man was Jarbo one of the most honorable pilots in the game <S>. Kieren I know how you feel, but I think it up to us veterans to set the standard for the game, yes it is a game. We are getting big I remember when we had 9 or 10 Knights total. My brothers fly Fighter Ace and do they tell me stories!
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I Hate It When That Happens!
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Kieren,
As stated above with more eloquence, the main problems on the open channel are 2 weekers and egos and just the usual number of absolute amazinhunks that infest all online flightsims who feel they must be read by all.
.squelch 1 is the obvious option and the first I exercise but on the long flight to 25K and certain doom I sometimes turn it on for entertainment value.
Kieren, you need to hang in, these guys are so damned easy to ignore.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Kieren makes a good point but what are some potential solutions. Perhaps the nature of the missions/achieving goals in the cyber war could be experimented with. Maybe the juvis that like to screw around wont like a more serious session and leave or straighten up a bit. I'll fly a C47 if I have some confidence that the mission is planned and thought out. I have noticed that some folks just dont think ahead. They roar off with no definate strategy, take out some acks and when that doesnt work they get frustrated and then start messing around. Perhaps we could have more input on managing frustration in the game. This is after all one of the best sims in a techical sense but I think the game play goal orientation needs some work/experimentation etc..
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Kieren thier is one thing i know and that is how much in control u can be in the worse of times is one thing i know for sure is that if it is pushing u too ur limits then it is in need of being looked into but giving up is not the answer.... smile and remeber u made someones day then do it again (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I have seen some crap in the text buffer. Actually some of it is funny! Hey! I dont like getting shot down, well most of the time I don't like getting shot down! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I don't lose my cool, because I'm supposed to get shot down!!
I've been lucky! The last two nights I have experienced some first class stuff. Last night Dogftr and I jumped three low YAKs. We managed to get all of them (I think (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)), but they got me too. They were members of the talented Flying Pigs! After wiping the sweat off my hands and brow, I typed in "Nice Fight Pigs!" They immediately responded positively on our flying of the A5 and added a Salute! Those Pigs are a class act!
Eariler tonite I had a great dogfight with BigBen! A classic fight with him in a P-47 and me in the A5 at about 23K. We danced for about 5 minutes when I finnaly got the upper hand. We got on the radio and gave a salute to each other. Class pilot!
Believe me, I see it in the text buffer and ya wonder when some people will grow up! I believe Kieren you'll find it wherever ya go, and whatever ya do.
Kieren, look at it this way. I'm still here, so ya have that to look forward to! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) You are one of the more brighter character in this sim. It would be a dark day for the AH community if we ever lost ya!
So try to look past the horse dung and smile, for all is good!
Swager deems it so!!
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Swager
XO I/JG2~Richthofen~[/i]
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/swager.jpg)
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/JG2inquirer.html)
[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 06-24-2000).]
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Hmmmmmmmmm I think that hbliar hit the nail on the head.........its always the same people spoiling the fun for the rest of the gaming community.
I also noticed the bastards didn't post a response here....
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What interests me (and this is just a general observation) is that in the timeslots I usually fly in (late evening West Coast time) I've never seen the bad trash talk thing happen, no complaints about HOs, vulching, anything.
And there's plenty of HOs, vulching, being vulched, gang-banging etc going on! It's more like a bunch of starving lunatics tearing a carcass apart with their teeth, too hungry to talk while doing so (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Kinda nice really...we must have our own little "microclimate" going at that time slot.
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Waxer
II/JG2 Richthofen
(http://home.earthlink.net/~neiljohnston/_uimages/waxer1.jpg)
"Nothin' up my sleeve...Presto!"
[This message has been edited by Waxer (edited 06-25-2000).]
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Hi Kieren,
i like the way you think of virtual combat (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Never had a problem to salute a good opponent,no matter who has won, although it is tougher now in 1.03 because i can't find these < > on my new kb layout (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
btw:Maybe i don't follow ch 1 enough but i seldem see a bad message about my fights
Don't be frustrated Kieren, keep on fighting
blitz
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Well, I've mulled this one over a couple of days.
I admit, I was curious if this was a perception problem on my part, and was curious how everyone else saw things. While certainly not everyone who flies AH posts here, I feel we got a fair cross-section of responses. It would seem that, while the things I see are not in my imagination, people do view the same circumstances quite differently (no surprise! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)).
Sometimes, like anyone else, I get a little too close to something and lose perspective. The events of the last week or so of play seemed (to me) to grow worse and worse with regards to the one area that I truly find satisfying/frustrating- the community. I personally have a problem being a part of conduct that is disrespectful. More and more, this is the norm, not the exception.
I am not pointing fingers at anyone, believe me. I have been as guilty as any, and that is what disgusts me. You see, I am responsible for my behavior, not anyone else's. No matter how someone treats me, I do not have to respond in kind. I have to remind myself of this all the time. And all too often lately I have committed the same acts as anyone else. That is wrong.
Here's the way I try to handle the online game; always treat everyone with respect, never make personal remarks about anyone, always behave as you would have others behave- in short, set an example.
We all know that there are those in our game that derive pleasure from upsetting others, and that has always been here. They pay their $30 I suppose, and have the right to do that up to a point. As I stated above, I am not leaving, but I will walk away from this in a heartbeat if I see myself beginning to emulate that type of behavior. No game is worth that for me. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
I posted the original comment to see how others felt about the topic, and am thankful to see that there are many, many people that understand what this community is about. I thank all who made kind remarks directly to me (not necessary, but appreciated!). I challenge all of you to do this- for one night, every time someone knocks you down, type "gk" (good kill) over the open buffer, no matter if you thought it was or not. Every time you knock someone down, give them a "S!". I'm willing to bet that many people will be able to unsquelch the open channel if that was to happen... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
P.S. I really feel that squelching the open is wrong for me, as I do help newbies that yell for help.