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Title: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: RumbleB on April 02, 2011, 02:12:46 PM
COol.. as.. F**K!

Modified for a hostage rescue mission in Iran
Operation: Credible Sport
lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q


Too bad the Pilots had a brainfart...
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: M0nkey_Man on April 02, 2011, 05:55:12 PM
i would s**t myself if i accidently hit the button that deployed those while i was flying :rofl
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: MachFly on April 02, 2011, 06:05:20 PM
Seems like it was a good idea.
Mishaps happen, think the program should not have been cancelled.
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: B-17 on April 02, 2011, 06:52:24 PM
i was under the impression that they also used that variant for use in antarctica?
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on April 03, 2011, 03:25:37 PM
Nothing new here ... but still cool! Don't the Blue Angel one uses them to in shows?

As a side note, my plane used to have a JATO rocket till that was replaced with alchool/water injection.  :old:
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: Dago on April 03, 2011, 07:25:03 PM
Nothing new here ... but still cool! Don't the Blue Angel one uses them to in shows?

As a side note, my plane used to have a JATO rocket till that was replaced with alchool/water injection.  :old:

Blue Angels use JATO for takeoff, as the acronym indicates.  That clip was about using rockets to shorten landing roll.  Not sure why it was posted now, that was 30 years ago.  Not exactly news.
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: allaire on April 03, 2011, 07:35:58 PM
Fat Albert is a C-130T where as the one in that old clip was a MC-130.  From what I can find the Combat Talon is still in use in various models by the Air Force.
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: guttboy on April 03, 2011, 09:00:23 PM
Always love seeing those videos!  Program was called Credible Sport. 

MC-130E/H/Ps are still in service and going strong.  If you are interested in the history of the Combat Talon evolution from the beginning through a few years ago a good book you can read online called the "Praetorian Starship" gives a very good history on the program.

http://books.google.com/books?id=nJPUqEmN1ukC&printsec=frontcover&dq=praetorian+starship&hl=en&ei=AyaZTfqPLZPTiALcwYydCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=nJPUqEmN1ukC&printsec=frontcover&dq=praetorian+starship&hl=en&ei=AyaZTfqPLZPTiALcwYydCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: RumbleB on April 03, 2011, 11:06:11 PM
Blue Angels use JATO for takeoff, as the acronym indicates.  That clip was about using rockets to shorten landing roll.  Not sure why it was posted now, that was 30 years ago.  Not exactly news.

I wasn't aware that this was a news forum.....
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: whels on April 04, 2011, 10:45:02 AM
no more JATO. the stockpile of bottles is gone, from the 60s n 70s.
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: KayBayRay on April 04, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
In Vietnam we called them JATO. I have taken a few rides with JATO... quite an experience the first few times. Man took 40 years for an upgrade??? Man these kids today.

Later,
KayBay
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: colmbo on April 04, 2011, 01:31:16 PM
COol.. as.. F**K!

Modified for a hostage rescue mission in Iran
Operation: Credible Sport
lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q


Too bad the Pilots had a brainfart...

The narrator for the video is not correct.  The system was designed to be fired before touchdown.  The reason for the accident is the rockets that are directed downward (to arrest the sink rate) did not fire causing the aircraft to touchdown with to high of a descent rate which resulted in structural damage.  Look back through the video and you'll see footage of one approach were only the downward firing rockets are activated -- then in the crash sequence you'll see these rockets are not firing.

I'm guessing that was something off the History Channel -- where research is something they don't do.
Title: Re: Modified C-130 with rocket engines to shorten landing n takeoff distance
Post by: RumbleB on April 04, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
The narrator for the video is not correct.  The system was designed to be fired before touchdown.  The reason for the accident is the rockets that are directed downward (to arrest the sink rate) did not fire causing the aircraft to touchdown with to high of a descent rate which resulted in structural damage.  Look back through the video and you'll see footage of one approach were only the downward firing rockets are activated -- then in the crash sequence you'll see these rockets are not firing.

I'm guessing that was something off the History Channel -- where research is something they don't do.


I see, thanks for the correction. It did seem a bit unlikely for elite pilots to make such a silly error.